DrunknMunky Veteran Posted September 11, 2009 Author Veteran Share Posted September 11, 2009 There we have it then, money was exchanged :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 these exclusive only bs has to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplySchizo Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 these exclusive only bs has to stop. NEVAAAR! Exclusivity is good for competition. Competition is good for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted September 11, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted September 11, 2009 these exclusive only bs has to stop. +1 At least its just challenge maps, nothing big. The whole Fallout (now fixed)/GTA DLC is far worse. Exclusive skins and ****, okay I guess, but game changing content/maps, is just lame as hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ichi Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 NEVAAAR!Exclusivity is good for competition. Competition is good for us. Exclusive games yes, but exclusive DLC is unfair. No matter what console you own you payed for the game, same as everyone else. You could consider buying another console to play games that are not available for the one you own, but not for DLC for a game you already paid for. I don't think it fosters competition in the least bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 competition? thats between the systems selling. why would u want to divide your customers though on a game? hell' i was going to buy this for pc... but rethinking that now. this is what exclusive does' it cuts people out and makes them think about buying something worthwhile. hell' if we all had a chance to play it' it just required extra money' no prob. but no reason to force ppl into a system for extra content. i guess the gaming industry will never learn.... computers and torrents for the win until i get a product that is equal as everyone else. Exclusive games yes, but exclusive DLC is unfair. No matter what console you own you payed for the game, same as everyone else.You could consider buying another console to play games that are not available for the one you own, but not for DLC for a game you already paid for. I don't think it fosters competition in the least bit. you are right. it only brings anger. no reason pc' xbox' or ps3 deserves differt dlc. they should be trying to bring people together' not splitting them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 with this marketing' we will never see cross platform online playing with each other. we will also all be told to own ever fricken system' just so we can get extra content on certain games.... horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted September 11, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted September 11, 2009 with this marketing' we will never see cross platform online playing with each other. we will also all be told to own ever fricken system' just so we can get extra content on certain games.... horrible. Cross platform play would be pretty difficult to do anyway with how different each systems online is. I don't think you'll ever see PS3/360, I don't think Sony/MS would allow that anyway, best you'll get is Console/PC which is confirmed for FF14 (MMO), I don't know about other games. I think some might already do Console/PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.biomech Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 These kind of stunts just deepen the wrath against the system(s) that you don't own and their developers. I as only a 360 owner couldn't care less in the end, since the game itself seems good (based on the demo) even without the chance to play as the Joker. Sony is just trying to lure the owners of both 360 and PS3 to get the PS3 version, don't really see this affecting anyone else (in any other way than as I stated in the first phrase). That said, I also agree that the people losing the most in this are the ones that pay and support the gaming industry and the developers and feel like left out. I don't think you'll ever see PS3/360, I don't think Sony/MS would allow that anyway, best you'll get is Console/PC which is confirmed for FF14 (MMO), I don't know about other games. I think some might already do Console/PC. Not sure about this but didn't Shadowrun's multiplayer work through both PC and 360? Then again that was MS game which explains it. Just as a quick addition: I don't care about full games being exclusive, but exclusive DLC is sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ichi Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Cross platform play would be pretty difficult to do anyway with how different each systems online is. But there's no reason why it should be that way, other than both Sony and MS trying to alienate their users and milk them as much as they can (I could include Nintendo, but their games are for the most part exclusive). When it comes to PC gaming you can play crossplatform games with anyone, no matter if you are running Windows, Linux or OSX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Spork) Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 ok some one help me how do i get in to the crocs room ? im @ the start that has the 1 sniper on the ledge with about 5 or 6 pods ...... how do i get the sniper and get in to the building lol help :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyLarry Veteran Posted September 11, 2009 Veteran Share Posted September 11, 2009 help :( We did help you already??? No problem though, here you go again... Go on the top of the guard tower that is closest to him, if you are looking facing him it will be on your left. Go on the top of that, and throw the Batarang to stun him. Then use the zip line thing to get onto the ledge, and then just beat him up or finish him if he is still on the ground. You just have to be safe and do not do it while his laser site is on you, so just go into Detective Mode to make sure you are not in his line of fire. Take care of him first, then go back down and do the pods and the few guys who are on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Spork) Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 We did help you already???No problem though, here you go again... Go on the top of the guard tower that is closest to him, if you are looking facing him it will be on your left. Go on the top of that, and throw the Batarang to stun him. Then use the zip line thing to get onto the ledge, and then just beat him up or finish him if he is still on the ground. You just have to be safe and do not do it while his laser site is on you, so just go into Detective Mode to make sure you are not in his line of fire. Take care of him first, then go back down and do the pods and the few guys who are on the ground. CRAP completely Missed that sorry all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyLarry Veteran Posted September 11, 2009 Veteran Share Posted September 11, 2009 CRAP completely Missed that sorry all No problem at all, it is easy to miss things in these larger threads. Good Luck. (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajputwarrior Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 i finsihed it a little while ago. AMAZING game, GOTY so far IMO. Loved every second of it, just my beef was the final boss battle was easy, the second last boss battle was hard. but loved every second of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 I'm so torn. This is really GOTY material as said above. I'm just po'ed that I wont get to play the joker missions. This game could be so much more for a lot of us....... WHY AM I NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU!? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unrealistic Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 computers and torrents for the win until i get a product that is equal as everyone else. Not to start something, but I believe you had no intention of truly buying the game at any point in this conversation. You brought up these points so you could give yourself a reason to continue to not support the developer and steal their games. Joker DLC is not a reason to just completely steal their product. The main story (which is the most important part in the game) is still completely intact. Besides, typically PC games are $10 less in retail form than their console counter parts, so you should also take that into consideration. We pay more for our games, so we should (maybe) get more features as well. If you want the same features, pay the same price as us per game. But there's no reason why it should be that way, other than both Sony and MS trying to alienate their users and milk them as much as they can (I could include Nintendo, but their games are for the most part exclusive).When it comes to PC gaming you can play crossplatform games with anyone, no matter if you are running Windows, Linux or OSX. Correct, but with PC gaming they are using the same API's. While all three consoles are based off of Power PC architecture, their networking API's are very different. There have been games on the xbox 360 that did allow cross platforming, but they were multiplayer and failed to grab an audience. I agree that both companies (Sony and Microsoft) have no intention to ever work together, but cross platform is a lot harder than "just making it happen." If the playstation 3 can't even get Cross-chat/other online features in all of their games, what makes you think they could learn how to program into another console? Not trying to bash Sony, but their system isn't even unified in current form, much less unified with another company. This problem you have with developers is a completely different topic though, as this game is single player only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Not to start something, but I believe you had no intention of truly buying the game at any point in this conversation. You brought up these points so you could give yourself a reason to continue to not support the developer and steal their games.Joker DLC is not a reason to just completely steal their product. The main story (which is the most important part in the game) is still completely intact. I buy any game I like. But I do not support companies who do not treat people equally. If companies want to alienate their users, so be it. They will reap what they sew. You can take whatever you want as anything you want to believe it as, but I make a valid point no matter which line you want to stand on. The reason I put the torrent sentence in is because companies have an option. Make their customers happy, or have no customers at all. DLC is great, but to restrict it to certain consoles is just asinine. I have played this on xbox, and from the demo, was hoping to get it for the PC. I also heard that they would actually provide DLC for the pc as well, which was cool. But I thought as well that the DLC would include the joker missions. Since they wont, I see no point in purchasing this game. I will play it with others on their systems, but for a PC, I have many more options in games that I feel are better worth my hard earned money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unrealistic Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Your points are valid as long as you don't go to your torrents, download the game, play it and then never pay. The minute you steal the game, your points are invalidated as you used them for other reasons. Borrowing the game though is perfectly fine. :) I do think you started typing your response before I edited my post though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Rambo Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Finished it today. What an awesome game. :p 10/10 from me. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Rambo Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Me playing :D :D :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcV8xQdkE58.swf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qumahlin Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 i guess the gaming industry will never learn.... computers and torrents for the win until i get a product that is equal as everyone else. I love it, because you feel the company isn't giving you what you deserve you choose to steal it. So when you go to a grocery store and notice that the same 2 dollar loaf of bread you buy now comes with 5 less slices, do you just steal another loaf because you feel your not getting what you deserve? All you prove in your statement is that you feel you need a reason to justify your theft. Don't get me wrong, I pirate games and movies, but I don't make up excuses for the reasons why I do it to try to justify it as being acceptable which is what your doing. If you don't like how the product is packaged then the answer is simple, you don't get the product. Your comment is the exact reason less and less developers are willing to make games for the PC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soniqstylz Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 +1At least its just challenge maps, nothing big. The whole Fallout (now fixed)/GTA DLC is far worse. Exclusive skins and ****, okay I guess, but game changing content/maps, is just lame as hell. GTA DLC isn't game changing, just adding new missions and unrelated storylines. I'd be ****ed if it continued Niko's story, but it's more like LCS/VCS vs. GTA3/VC. Fallout DLC only matters for the level cap, past that, I'm just glad to get new trophies ;) These Joker maps are free, it's not that big of a deal people, it's not game changing. Same with the challenges in Bioshock and the exclusive Mirror's Edge map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigsaw Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Great game, but I'm stuck. I got to the part where you are on your way to crocs laire, i went to exit the glasshouse and ivy's plant blocks my way. So i go down the sewers and see an opening, so I assume I can grapple up. however there's no target and the grapple gun wont let me go up, any ideas guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 I love it, because you feel the company isn't giving you what you deserve you choose to steal it. So when you go to a grocery store and notice that the same 2 dollar loaf of bread you buy now comes with 5 less slices, do you just steal another loaf because you feel your not getting what you deserve? All you prove in your statement is that you feel you need a reason to justify your theft.Don't get me wrong, I pirate games and movies, but I don't make up excuses for the reasons why I do it to try to justify it as being acceptable which is what your doing. If you don't like how the product is packaged then the answer is simple, you don't get the product. Your comment is the exact reason less and less developers are willing to make games for the PC not at all, because downloading something does not equal loss of anything. Get real and stop being stupid. Actually stealing something and just making a digital copy are 2 very different things. Just because someone makes something does not entitled them to money, just as it does not entitle me to physically rob them of said item. Making a copy though, is a much different and broader subject. GTA DLC isn't game changing, just adding new missions and unrelated storylines. I'd be ****ed if it continued Niko's story, but it's more like LCS/VCS vs. GTA3/VC.Fallout DLC only matters for the level cap, past that, I'm just glad to get new trophies ;) These Joker maps are free, it's not that big of a deal people, it's not game changing. Same with the challenges in Bioshock and the exclusive Mirror's Edge map. But still, why alienate your customers like that? Since when did everything become "class" based? In the end, you can either always put up with crap, or stand up and make your point. It's all about I guess who you are. I normally like to make my presence felt and my point heard, especially when I think something is not correct. ** you might go as far as saying as rioting is wrong, but sometimes, it is needed for the government to get the message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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