Health care workers refuse to take H1N1 vaccine

[scratch42069]

If I remember science class correctly, mercury is poison and shouldn't be ingested. Kind of like how you don't eat wood chips or stick metal objects into electrical sockets lol.

[Boz]

What potential issue will take a couple of years to manifest? The mercury (thermisol) will be gone from your system in 18 days if you abstain from eating fish during that period.

We don't know.. vaccine is not really thoroughly tested. Besides Guillain-Barre syndrome.

"There could be unknown side effects. Something could happen. But we think that is highly unlikely," says infectious disease and vaccine expert Mark Mulligan, MD, executive director of the Hope Clinic of the Emory Vaccine Center in Atlanta.

[hdood]

If I remember science class correctly, mercury is poison and shouldn't be ingested. Kind of like how you don't eat wood chips or stick metal objects into electrical sockets lol.

There is mercury in food as well. Chances are you ingest mercury every day. If you eat fish, you get even higher doses of mercury. Lots of things that you are exposed to every day are "poison" and can kill you in sufficient quantities. Even water can kill you.

We don't know.. vaccine is not really thoroughly tested. Besides Guillain-Barre syndrome.

But the swine flu vaccine is not much different from the other flu vaccines that have been tested on a massive scale over several decades. The claims that we could suddenly start growing new limbs or turn purple isn't based in any fact.

[BoredBozirini]

If I remember science class correctly, mercury is poison and shouldn't be ingested. Kind of like how you don't eat wood chips or stick metal objects into electrical sockets lol.

http://www.hhs.gov/asl/testify/t000718b.html

[Boz]

But the swine flu vaccine is not much different from the other flu vaccines that have been tested on a massive scale over several decades. The claims that we could suddenly start growing new limbs or turn purple isn't based in any fact.

Well to be honest with you I'm more concerned about getting a serious neurological issue which is a fact that this vaccine can cause no matter what chances. You can still get screwed up and I haven't heard about this with any other vaccine.

[scratch42069]

http://www.hhs.gov/asl/testify/t000718b.html

Good thing I don't eat fish and followed my gut in not drinking the liquid inside broken old thermometers lol.

[Chemaz]

I think it should be a requirment for anyone working with many different who may have weak immune systems, i mean health care workers come into contact with many ppl, if they picked up the virus they could easily pass it on to sum1 who has a weak immune system and could then possibly die from it.

As for side effects tbh they are minimal, u probably take more mecury through food than through this one injection. And no you cant get the flu from the injection, or get any virus through vaccines, as it either contains the dead virus this can't replicate, or ite contains virus specific proteins or parts of the virus so in some cases it doesnt even contain the virus. And if u did happen to get the flu a day or 2 after the injection, the vaccine doesnt make u instantly immune, it takes 2-3days for u to show flu symptoms so u could have either picked it up before the injection or jsut after.

I personally wont have the injection as im healthy, have a good immune system, the flu strain isnt that deadly (its as bad as seasonal flu, nothing special, just the media blowin it out of proportion) and i dont work with ppl who may have a weak immune system

[hdood]

Well to be honest with you I'm more concerned about getting a serious neurological issue which is a fact that this vaccine can cause no matter what chances. You can still get screwed up and I haven't heard about this with any other vaccine.

Uhm... The notice that it can in extremely rare cases trigger Guillain-Barre Syndrome (and most of the other side-effects listed) is based on this knowledge about other flu vaccines. It's not a claim that is based on the swine flu vaccine at all. It is just assumed that the risk is there, like it is with the other flu vaccines.

[Fred Derf Veteran]

If I remember science class correctly, mercury is poison and shouldn't be ingested. Kind of like how you don't eat wood chips or stick metal objects into electrical sockets lol.

There are certain amounts of mercury that is considered to be safe. Certain cultures have eaten fish as part of their daily lives for generations. The tiny amount of mercury present in a vaccine is relatively comparable to eating one tuna steak.

We don't know.. vaccine is not really thoroughly tested. Besides Guillain-Barre syndrome.

Then you're just making stuff up. The swine flu vaccine is a minor tweak to the seasonal flu vaccine and that is the mostly widely tested vaccine that we have. Something that is a one in a million possibility isn't worth worrying about when considering that your risk from the swine flu itself is greater. Sure, you might think that the risks from swine flu are minor but they are greater than the risks from the vaccine and that is all that should matter.

[Gotenks98]

Wheres the problem? Nature creatus virus's and infections science cures them .

This vaccine is for people with weak immune systems. Not for the general public

Thats a contradiction.

Key word being normal :rolleyes:

Why would i need a flu vaccine im 23 and perfectly healthy

I am going to ask the general views of this thread a question. Have any of you ever had the flu before? Seriously because if you did you would not be against this vaccine at all. I work in a healthcare environment everyday as an IT administrator for a clinic. I see patients coming in with masks coughing so hard like they are about to cough a lung up. Sorry but there is no way I am going to be catching that **** that they have. Shoot me up with the vacinnes you got. For healthcare yes some companies do require the shots or you find another job but thats more so to cover their butts. Think about it if all the workers get sick who is going to take care of the patients, and the ones who are able to function while having the flu come to work and risk giving it to more patients making others sick. The thing is I would rather be safe than sorry because having the flu is one of the worst experiences a person can go thru. You all can spout that mombojombo about vacinne effectiveness but to me something is better than nothing.

[Fred Derf Veteran]

Uhm... The notice that it can in extremely rare cases trigger Guillain-Barre Syndrome (and most of the other side-effects listed) is based on this knowledge about other flu vaccines. It's not a claim that is based on the swine flu vaccine at all. It is just assumed that the risk is there, like it is with the other flu vaccines.

The risk of complications for the h1n1 vaccine will be the same since it is basically the same vaccine.

[Joel]

I wonder if all of these paranoids also freak out over every other shot they may get in their lifetimes. I'm sure they don't run around to labs proving a tetanus shot is safe, for example.

[hdood]

The risk of complications for the h1n1 vaccine will be the same since it is basically the same vaccine.

Exactly! People seem to think this is some radically new and experimental vaccine when it's really just a plain old flu vaccine targeted at a certain strain of the virus, somewhat similar to how the seasonal flu vaccine changes every year.

It's the risk of the actual virus that is believed to be different this time, not the vaccine. People then extrapolate that the vaccine must therefore also be more dangerous.

[Growled Member]

I think the risk is low. I know several people who have taken the vaccine and none of them have had any complications whatsoever.

[iamawesomewicked]

I think the risk is low. I know several people who have taken the vaccine and none of them have had any complications whatsoever.

I know people who've had weakness and a sore arm for a few days.. but hey.. i'd rather that than be dead.

[Joel]

It's a Miracle!!!! She's been cured of the incurable!!!!!

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/11/...nings_cured.php

[iamawesomewicked]

It's a Miracle!!!! She's been cured of the incurable!!!!!

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/11/...nings_cured.php

I know right.. it only took a quack doctor to heal a quack girl.

[mudslag]

being married to a med student and having a doctor for a father-n-law, Im feel pretty safe taking it.

[Spysix]

Might be a repost but didn't see.

Best Page in the Universe: I hope I get swine flu

and I agree with Maddox. My brother apparently got sick back in nov and docs said tests said it was swine flu. I was next to this kid taking care of him for a few days and he got better. Did I get sick? No. I have an immune system that works. And if you do get sick, deal with it. It's not going to kill you.

Don't take the vaccine. It's not worth it to you than it is for the companies that profit from making treatments than cures.

[hdood]

They should give you the Nobel Prize in Medicine, oh wise one.

[zhangm Supervisor]

It's not worth it to you than it is for the companies that profit from making treatments than cures.

Maybe we'll take you seriously once you can actually tell us what a vaccine is and how it works.

[Diabolii]

If you're a woman and you're worried about mercury content, get the one for pregnant women. Here in canada doctors are offering it because they are low on the regular vaccine at least in my area and they have WAY too much of the other. It still has mercury, but much less.

[Growled Member]

I think the risk is low. I know several people who have taken the vaccine and none of them have had any complications whatsoever.

I have to take that back. One local girl got very sick from taking the vaccine and now can no longer walk.

[iamawesomewicked]

I have to take that back. One local girl got very sick from taking the vaccine and now can no longer walk.

Proof?

That story sounds oh so familiar for some reason.

Edited December 14, 2009 by iamawesomewicked

[4CxbqFxVnstmA Veteran]

I had this vaccine and I am fine. :)