More on LIVE Bans, HDD Crippling, Possible Ban Causes

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It isn't just pre-release, or downloaders who are getting banned.

Either way, its definitely going to boost their christmas sales of xboxs. I wonder if it was a 'business' decision to issue so many bans now, to make the all important christmas figures look better.

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I'm pretty sure the NTSC copy of Forza 3 that leaked 2-3 weeks early wasn't legit, but the PAL that leaked about a week early and was region free was legit.

And lol @ MW2 being legit, it was a mish-mash of stealth files injected into a 100% faulty rip and WAVE4 padding from other games.

As crazy as it may be, the Forza 3 NTSC/US was actually legit after all. If you manage to pick up a legit Forza 3 in the US, play it without updating and admire all of the spelling mistakes in the menu =)

As for the MW2, well I guess that depends on which particular one you got. There were quite a few dodgy mishmashes floating around but quite a few "legit" ones as well. Anything from the "scene" verified just fine and wave4 data from all wave4 games is identical anyway.

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Doing this makes 3rd parties like you more. Not doing anything would've been bad. And if it happens to boost the sale of newer 360's that s a bonus. But are pirates going to get a newer one? Who said the newer ones are hard to flash?

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As crazy as it may be, the Forza 3 NTSC/US was actually legit after all. If you manage to pick up a legit Forza 3 in the US, play it without updating and admire all of the spelling mistakes in the menu =)

As for the MW2, well I guess that depends on which particular one you got. There were quite a few dodgy mishmashes floating around but quite a few "legit" ones as well. Anything from the "scene" verified just fine and wave4 data from all wave4 games is identical anyway.

Well MS were able to tag something for Forza 3, so unless conspiracy theories want to rise about them being able to detect the firmware or the ABGX (?) verifying database is crap, the rip must be the issue.

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Cannot wait to see the faces of people buying super cheap Xbox 360s on ebay just in time for the holidays only to notice that when they turn it on, its banned on xbox live.

Yeah that's going to turn out to be problem isn't it? There's probably kids on their way home from school, that are going to have a nice surprise waiting for them when they try to play MW2 online :laugh:

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Cannot wait to see the faces of people buying super cheap Xbox 360s on ebay just in time for the holidays only to notice that when they turn it on, its banned on xbox live.

I agree... it will be awesome to see their faces!!! :rofl:

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Yeah that's going to turn out to be problem isn't it? There's probably kids on their way home from school, that are going to have a nice surprise waiting for them when they try to play MW2 online :laugh:

At least the ones that are popping up on Craigslist are stating that the console is banned. Some people who had no intentions of playing online will mind the drop in price...

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At least the ones that are popping up on Craigslist are stating that the console is banned. Some people who had no intentions of playing online will mind the drop in price...

You can't receive game updates, nor can you install to the hard drive any more with a banned console. Yeah most games updates are online based, but there are some games that get SP flaws/bugs patched. I'm sure there was even a game breaker bug in Fable 2.

Not being able to install to the hard drive would kill it for me, that's one of the most useful features MS added to NXE IMO.

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Well MS were able to tag something for Forza 3, so unless conspiracy theories want to rise about them being able to detect the firmware or the ABGX (?) verifying database is crap, the rip must be the issue.

Just reading around the web people have "claimed" to be banned without ever playing a backup (as well as people who claimed they only used their own backups). I read one post that stated he just bought a new 360, modded firmware, played retail MW2 - banned the same day. Again lots of speculation as to the reason but I think MS figured out how to read the firmware.

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Just reading around the web people have "claimed" to be banned without ever playing a backup (as well as people who claimed they only used their own backups). I read one post that stated he just bought a new 360, modded firmware, played retail MW2 - banned the same day. Again lots of speculation as to the reason but I think MS figured out how to read the firmware.

People say things like that all the time, heck the

"I just flashed the firmware, then decided to totally play legit games for a week for no reason other than I really couldn't be bothered checking out my hard work modding the console to see if it works or to go through with the effort involved in using my torrent program or the lengthy process of burning an ISO to a DVD, then I got banned playing Modern Warfare 2 which I got 5 days early legitimately from a friend who owns an indie games store."

line has been coming up since the firmwares started.

But this time around I'm thinking it could be true they can now read firmware.

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I wonder if they'll learn from it or just buy another console and keep doing it?

Seeing as MS don't ban the Gamertag, if you're a true pirate and own like 2 Xbox 360 games, 40+ pirated games chances are you're getting a new 360 if you enjoy playing MP.

The 360 might sell more than the PS2 if this carries on for the whole lifespan :laugh:

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Cannot wait to see the faces of people buying super cheap Xbox 360s on ebay just in time for the holidays only to notice that when they turn it on, its banned on xbox live.

Precisely why I will never buy a second hand console online! :)

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wow, 600,000 gamers using pirated software / modified hardware :|

That's a damn lot!

Link in this topic says could be as much as 1 million :|

By the way you guys got to read this LOL :laugh: - http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/technolo...00/10002915.stm

75 quid to chip, fail :rofl:

I took it into a shop [the Xbox], there was a guy back there and I asked him and he did it for me [chipped it]. He charged ?75 to get it chipped but at the end of the day I said to myself I'll pay ?75 to get it chipped, after two games I've paid the money back.
I've probably saved about ?600 and I've copied roughly 30 or 40 games. A lot of them I've downloaded or I've taken off friends that have downloaded themselves.

To be honest, I've contemplated whether to move to Playstation 3 or buy another Xbox. I wouldn't do it again but I really don't know if I'm going to get the Xbox again now."

Classic, yes, go get a PS3 where you need to... pay for every game.

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Seeing as MS don't ban the Gamertag, if you're a true pirate and own like 2 Xbox 360 games, 40+ pirated games chances are you're getting a new 360 if you enjoy playing MP.

The 360 might sell more than the PS2 if this carries on for the whole lifespan :laugh:

They ban both now.

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