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  1. 1. Which team will win the Constructors Cup?

    • McLaren
      48
    • Mercedes GP
      11
    • Red Bull
      29
    • Ferrari
      36
    • Williams
      1
    • Renault
      2
    • Force India
      1
    • Toro Rosso
      0
    • Lotus
      1
    • Campos
      0
    • US
      0
    • Virgin
      0
  2. 2. Who will be the world champion this year?

    • Jenson Button
      11
    • Lewis Hamilton
      33
    • Michael Schumacher
      13
    • Nico Rosberg
      1
    • Sebastian Vettel
      10
    • Mark Webber
      21
    • Felipe Massa
      8
    • Fernando Alonso
      26
    • Rubens Barrichello
      1
    • Nico Hulkenberg
      0
    • Robert Kubica
      3
    • Vitaly Petrov
      2
    • Adrian Sutil
      0
    • Vitantonio Liuzzi
      0
    • Sebastien Buemi
      0
    • Jaime Alguersuari
      0
    • Jarno Trulli
      0
    • Heikki Kovalainen
      0
    • Bruno Senna
      0
    • Jose Maria Lopez
      0
  3. 3. Who will be the world champion this year? Continued

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    • Lucas di Grassi
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Have some bloody dignaty, what if webber had died or more hurt than he actully was, do you think that picture would be as funny then?

jesus some people

Fact of the matter is that no body got injured. The cars are designed to take impacts and forces like that before they even think about adding on an engine etc. Safety is key in F1.

Either way. GREAT race. Best race of the season thus far. Well done Kobayashi (Y)

Gotta agree here, context is everything and the cars are designed to let drivers survive. This was a bad one, but he walked away. Webber is an easy enough man to joke about it himself, so I don't see the issue. Well done to Koby, that was an AWESOME race for Sauber and Peter Sauber should be pleased as punch.

has someone heard alonso whining on the pitradio and after the race? gosh, this guy has reached another low. totally lame. :laugh:

they could've just killed Double diffuser, F-duct, & KERS.

Disagree on KERS, if every car had the same KERS system it would give all drivers an option to boost during a lap, which increases strategy (when to boost) and possible overtaking (at least on circuits with at least two overtaking possibilities or more).

Well that was once hell of a crash by Webber, glad he's OK

he's flipped a car before as well (1999 Le Mans), looks identical just nose of the car the other way. Tho circumstances were slightly different in Le Mans he didn't go into the back of anyone just not enough down-force at top speed.

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The results and lack of penalties for today's race was definitely shameful.

lack of penalties? i cant remember the last time when 9 cars got a penalty.

They got a 5 second penalty. What the cars behind the safety car lost was more than 20 seconds.

lost 20 seconds to whom? safetycar went on track and had to wait for the leader. all cars had to drive at a certain speed, calculated by computers and their current track position. its crystal clear i think. the team manager of the sauber team said that cars who got the 5 second penalty gained earlier only 2 or 3 seconds by speeding. so the penalty was fair and balanced.

if there was a problem at this race it was that the safetycar went out a little bit too late, therefore missed the leading car and had to wait and slow down the field for nearly a lap. but its not something which has never happend before. thats racing i think.

dont call me an idiot, i just dont find a crash like that funny, but im guessing you do, so go ahead and laugh your socks off at a crash that COULD have ended in webber loosing his live.

Thanks, we will.

That picture rocks. thumbs_up.gif

Go Kobayashi!

I do think Hammy would of been on top of the podium if if wasn't for his drive through.

lost 20 seconds to whom? safetycar went on track and had to wait for the leader. all cars had to drive at a certain speed, calculated by computers and their current track position. its crystal clear i think. the team manager of the sauber team said that cars who got the 5 second penalty gained earlier only 2 or 3 seconds by speeding. so the penalty was fair and balanced.

if there was a problem at this race it was that the safetycar went out a little bit too late, therefore missed the leading car and had to wait and slow down the field for nearly a lap. but its not something which has never happend before. thats racing i think.

to add, thats what the fia said:

The FIA also pointed out that the speeding penalties for cars during their pit stop laps under the Safety Car were relatively lenient because many of them were doing 180mph plus within a couple of hundred metres of the Safety Car line when the car was deployed and could do little about it. They may have broken the letter of the law but not its spirit.

lost 20 seconds to whom? safetycar went on track and had to wait for the leader. all cars had to drive at a certain speed, calculated by computers and their current track position. its crystal clear i think. the team manager of the sauber team said that cars who got the 5 second penalty gained earlier only 2 or 3 seconds by speeding. so the penalty was fair and balanced.

Basically a bunch of cars behind Massa slowed down so much that they could enter the pits on the same lap safety car came out, whereas the Ferrari drivers had to pit the next lap by following the rules. And as Hamilton raced pass the safety car, only Ferrari (and the two cars that didn't stop) was behind the safety car at that time.

According to Autosport the penalty was "failing to stay above the minimum time set by the FIA ECU when the Safety Car was deployed.".

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