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[ 11:44 ] Steve's back. You don't have to recompile for G5 benefits, though you'll probably want to. Now Theodore Gray of Wolfram Research. Today, Mathematica 5 for the G5 will be released. Another bake-off. Gray estimates that the G5 is running twice to 2.5 times faster than the dual Xeon. He's talking to fill time while the two machines churn away. The G5 is already done with the 40-step process, and the dual Xeon is still working, about halfway through. "The competition is not even with PCs anymore," Gray says. He adds that it's now just high-end UNIX machines . . . and the G5 "beats them, too." Much applause.

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There won't be G5's in the powerbook. I'd be extremely surprised.

you know more about this than i do, but i'd have to agree with you just on the simple fact that if the new powermac has 9 fans in it, theres no way they could put this heat monster in a laptop? at least not without modifying it right?

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you know more about this than i do, but i'd have to agree with you just on the simple fact that if the new powermac has 9 fans in it, theres no way they could put this heat monster in a laptop? at least not without modifying it right?

Indeed, unless IBM make something like a 1GHz G5, that would be more then enough to go up against the Pentium-M chips I'd imagine, and might run cool enough for laptops. We'll see.

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You're way off topic so I'll keep this brief.

The computer this morning had about the same specs and most parts are the same price if not cheaper so how the hell would a cheaper IBM chip put this computer that much more. 
Chip isn't the only major cost for apple hardware. SATA is more expensive than ATA, DDR 400 costs more than DDR 333. Those new controller chips aren't free. Fans cost money. Aluminum cases cost more than plastic. etc, etc. etc. Also note that all models have a superdrive.
The low end G4 PowerMac that was on their website this morning was 1499.99

Powermacs today are cheaper than they ever have been in history. Show me another 1.6 ghz 64-bit computer for less.

When you bought Mac OS X you had to pay 130.00 for Jaguar. Now we have to pay another 130.00 for Panther

When you bought Windows 5.0 you had to pay $300. When you bought Windows 5.1 you had to pay another $200. Cry me a river, it's a major os update - if you want it you pay for it. It's still reasonably priced compared to the other commercial OSs and if you buy the Family pack you can upgrade 5 machines for $200.

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I think we should hold judgement until we see them for real They're just renders on a presentation, taken with a camera, then resized and compressed. Remember the leaked MDD G4 shots? Ugly as hell, the G4 looks ok doesn't it? I think we should hold fire.

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This is a great computer but they price themselves out of the market every single time. The Powermac G4 at its time was the bad ass computer but it didn't sell because they priced themselves out of the market. This is the same thing and I hate to say and I dearly hope I'm wrong but I think that this will not sell well either and they will be back in square one again. Yes they will sell but not any more that the previous PowerMac if not worse.

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