official Battlefield: Bad Company 2

[mattmatik]

No problem man. I dont wanna rain on your parade. I loved them, but then slowly figured out why most people just bought the 41s. They are Pure Quality where these were the "ah i dont want the wire, but i dont wanna spend that much money" and then you end up at 41s anyway. I understand the baby part, definitely do not want 16 feet of wire lol. I say DEFINITELY use them a lot and measure how much battery life you get. Believe me if you have the extra 100 to spare you will thank me.

I almost got the X4s but then after some researching found out that the 41s were coming out and they were x4s but with 7.1 and digital input into the transmitter. I liked that and wait and worth it. Most stores wont carry them in stock, there expensive and maybe one or 2. I know bestbuy will carry them in stock, if its not on the shelf just ask, when I went to buy them(yeah i hate shopping at BB but no choice) they had 2 in the back, didnt put them upfront because they didnt have the proper security devices for them.

Anyway enjoy the world of Turtle Beach. There great headsets for console. Being a PC Gamer im so use to paying attention to detail, then when I found out about turtle beaches and how they would be equivalent to my G35's, i was very happy. Big comfy headset both booms and you can hear literally everything, made me a better fps gamer on console.

Thanks again, man. Really appreciate your insight. I actually got the X31s at Best Buy today, went to 2 stores in the area and neither store had the 41s. It really is amazing how much detail we miss. Your post has really got me thinking twice hahaha. I actually think I'll be using a headset more and more than just late night gaming - so maybe the 41s are the way to go. Newegg has them for $179, free shipping :)

[Boz]

I've owned just about every Razer mouse there is..Mamba, Lachesis, Deathadder, and a Logitech G9, in the end I sold them all and now have the G500. It is better than all of them (in my opinion). It's got the comfort of a Deathadder with the precision of a Mamba, or G9x, but is cheaper than both of them. I'd say it's totally worth it.

Razer Mamba is probably the most precise and overall superb mouse. The only problem is that it's not really worth $129 and it has somewhat buggy firmware (the latest one seems to be ok). I have also the new MX Revolution and it's a great mouse but a bit big. It fits nicely and has great precision as well, very smooth but Mamba still feels much better overall.

[s1k3sT]

It has that big lump that fits perfect in your hand, and not only that, i loved the "trigger" like thumb buttons. They made my experience so much better. I could knife / primary in the matter of seconds.

I do like to stab people (in the game, of course) so I'm guessing the thumb button would be ideal for me. I will give the sidewinder a try. Thanks for the recommendation.

As for the stabbing in bc2 at first I was disappointed because I was used to the instant stab in cod, whereas with bc2 there is a delay. I've already came to like bc2 better though, because there is more to it than just hitting the button first.

[Spookie]

Just bought a Multiplay Server for this game..only to be told new servers are on hold til DICE get their arses into gear.

D'oH.

Be sure to make it a conquest server. ;)

[Billus]

I do like to stab people (in the game, of course)

This made me laugh

As for the stabbing in bc2 at first I was disappointed because I was used to the instant stab in cod, whereas with bc2 there is a delay. I've already came to like bc2 better though, because there is more to it than just hitting the button first.

Yea, took me a bit of time to get used to it as well. At first I thought it was just lag haha since most of the servers I can connect too and stay connected too ("Play Now" option seems to be the most reliable) the pings are usually at an astonishing 500ms or over which is a real bitch. I can't really seem to find any ones in Australia though, so if someone in Aus can point me into the right direction I'd be grateful. I'm too used to browsing through servers on/thru Steam.

[WastedJoker]

Be sure to make it a conquest server. ;)

I'm tempted to make it a Conquest - Panama Canal server only.

I bloody love that map.

[Spookie]

I'm tempted to make it a Conquest - Panama Canal server only.

I bloody love that map.

Lets not go that far. :D

We do need to be able to vary the modes though. Driving me nuts I can't do anything but rush without messing about in admin.

[DirtyLarry Veteran]

But DL, there is a guy that has the same score as you and is in 10th place, and another guy with a slightly better score who is in 8th.. Trust me I have put in a ton of hours so far and it isn't just K/D based. If you TRY and plant/defuse a bomb = points. If you just touch a guy = points, if you just TAG a guy for others = points. Not counting attacking vehicles etc..

Honestly it has a lot more to do with teamplay than just K/D ratio

Remember look at this chart

SMELTN, I think what Larry is getting at is not the score of the round but the skill level on the overall leaderboard/soldier. I see the same thing, I've been in the top 3 numerous times thanks to capturing objectives, squad resupplies, etc. However, my skill is a 2 because my K/D is absolute crap (again, overall K/D). I've also noticed on my soldier at least (360 version) my ranking is staying at dead last. I've always had problems with EA games doing this, I've never ranked up. Happens to me every year in NCAA Football so I know it's an EA issue.

Yeah SMELTN, obviously I know all that stuff adds to score, it is how I get on the top only being 4/3 and 10/7. That is what I meant when I said I am a team player. SoLoredd is exactly right on what I was talking about.

The skill thing I am complaining about is when click on Compare. Right there is a Skill Level. I am always a negative because of my kill death ratio, not my overall score.

[rajputwarrior]

Dont give up yet, the Sidewinder x5 is a GREAT mouse. I personally used that a Logitech G9x / G500 and a Mamba / deathadder. ATM I have a MX1100 and love it for gaming with its fps switcher and thumb button. But out of all those it would be G500 / X5 / G9x. I also like the MX1100 because its wireless and no lag, goes for about a month on one full charge. Im trying to get a MX Revolution and that will make me happier xD. Loved this mouse since the day i saw it 3 years ago.

those ones aren't bad. I love my g5 though, v1 and v2. especially v2 because it has two thumb buttons. One for talking on the mic and the other for knifing. Changing the DPI on the fly is an awesome feature too, especially when sniping.

[Ayepecks]

Can someone tell me how the single player campaign fares in comparison to games such as Call of Duty and Medal of Honor? Is it still below par in terms of these games? (I know it's better than the original's single player, but that's not saying much.)

[rajputwarrior]

Can someone tell me how the single player campaign fares in comparison to games such as Call of Duty and Medal of Honor? Is it still below par in terms of these games? (I know it's better than the original's single player, but that's not saying much.)

singplay is sub par @ best. no real story, no real structure, bad AI, not really that much fun. Multiplayer is where it's at.

[Ayepecks]

singplay is sub par @ best. no real story, no real structure, bad AI, not really that much fun. Multiplayer is where it's at.

So significantly worse than Call of Duty?

I can't play multiplayer online for the next few months because my dorm connection cuts in and out ad nauseum, so I was thinking about buying it now for the single player and playing the multiplayer over the summer... but I take it I should just wait for the price to drop over the summer?

[WastedJoker]

If you want a good singleplayer game, try either Metro 2033 or Just Cause 2.

The Just Cause 2 demo has impressed me.

[Ayepecks]

If you want a good singleplayer game, try either Metro 2033 or Just Cause 2.

The Just Cause 2 demo has impressed me.

Neither of those games are out yet, so I'm hesitant to say I'd get either one. I'm downloading the Just Cause 2 demo, but it's taking forever. The videos of it have seemed decent to me.

[Richard Hammond]

singplay is sub par @ best. no real story, no real structure, bad AI, not really that much fun. Multiplayer is where it's at.

Because technically its a multiplayer game, its significantly better than most, most multiplayer games have an offline multiplayer with bots mode as their single player mode, i loved the humour and the story more than the over the top ridiculousness of MW2 storyline, there were a few issues but the sense of scale and the vistas were breathtaking. Dont hate on it just because its not to your tastes.

[rajputwarrior]

So significantly worse than Call of Duty?

I can't play multiplayer online for the next few months because my dorm connection cuts in and out ad nauseum, so I was thinking about buying it now for the single player and playing the multiplayer over the summer... but I take it I should just wait for the price to drop over the summer?

definiltey wait for a price drop. Single player is no where near call of duty...

[Massiveterra]

So significantly worse than Call of Duty?

I can't play multiplayer online for the next few months because my dorm connection cuts in and out ad nauseum, so I was thinking about buying it now for the single player and playing the multiplayer over the summer... but I take it I should just wait for the price to drop over the summer?

If it means anything to you, the single player is longer than MW2. I personally only played about 2 or 3 hours of it and it does indeed leave a lot to be desired.

But I would be really cautious about buying this for single player. The main focus of this game is the MP, and the biggest reason any reviewer gave negative scores to this game is because of the single player.

[rajputwarrior]

^ i wouldn't say it's longer. took me about 6 hours on hard to beat the singplayer where both MW's took me longer then that on veteran.

[Olemus]

For anyone still having issues not being able to see pings in the Steam version. Run Steam itself as an admin, this automatically runs games from it in admin mode.

[mokthraka]

If it means anything to you, the single player is longer than MW2. I personally only played about 2 or 3 hours of it and it does indeed leave a lot to be desired.

But I would be really cautious about buying this for single player. The main focus of this game is the MP, and the biggest reason any reviewer gave negative scores to this game is because of the single player.

then why the hell did MW2 get so good of scores? that was the worst single player storyline in the world. It didnt even feel like a battle, it feeled like me running through the streets just shooting people and being unstoppable

not to mention the game is full of errors.

for instance, in the airport when you go downstairs everyone is laying on the ground dead, was there ANOTHER shooting at the same time? because no one on your team shot down there till you get to the stairs, and even then its shooting the people crawling around. yet the place is shot up and everyone is dead

[SMELTN]

I haven't even touched the single player game yet.. Just loving MP so much, which is why I purchased the game to begin with..

My only worry though, is I have completely unlocked Recon/Assault and almost done with Engineer.. I know Medic is the easiest so I saved it for last.. Looks like I may only be level 25 max when I unlock all classes, so from 25 to 50 will be with all unlocks, which I guess is nice and all.

[Massiveterra]

^ i wouldn't say it's longer. took me about 6 hours on hard to beat the singplayer where both MW's took me longer then that on veteran.

I completed MW2 sp in about 4.5 to 5 hours on Normal. I really felt no need to try it on any other difficulty. Mostly because it was meh. Like I said, I have yet to beat the SP of BC2, just said "longer" based on the reviews I've read

then why the hell did MW2 get so good of scores? that was the worst single player storyline in the world. It didnt even feel like a battle, it feeled like me running through the streets just shooting people and being unstoppable

not to mention the game is full of errors.

for instance, in the airport when you go downstairs everyone is laying on the ground dead, was there ANOTHER shooting at the same time? because no one on your team shot down there till you get to the stairs, and even then its shooting the people crawling around. yet the place is shot up and everyone is dead

Dunno. Hype maybe? Lot's of reviewers admit they get caught up in the hype train just like fans do.

Maybe they gave it such a high score because of the package and amount of content? (SP + Spec Ops + MP)

All I know is that for the most part, many of the reviewers referenced in Metacritic looked at the single player of BC2 first, then looked at the MP. Which is perplexing to me since MP really is the main focus of the game, both mechanically and visually.

It's hard for me to understand why reviewers easily forgive a mediocre MP when a game has an exceptional SP, but it's hard to forgive a mediocre SP when a game has an exceptional MP.

[mattmatik]

I haven't even touched the single player game yet.. Just loving MP so much, which is why I purchased the game to begin with..

Same here. In fact, I never touched Bad Company 1 either. It appears (and I hope) that DICE wants to keep up DLC support. BC2 should be great for a long time to come.

[Singh400]

Just ordered it from Amazon UK for ?24.99...

[James Riske]

My only complaint with BC2 is the lack of conquest maps, I feel like I am playing the same 5 or 6 maps over and over again, otherwise the game owns.