Richard Hammond Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Apple didn’t manufacture Apple A4, it was Samsung who manufactured it. Apple designed it (source). Also, Apple haven’t said exactly what clock speed the A4 is running inside of the i4. It may have been down clocked to extend battery life. This is a curious one, as I have only seen the screen pitted against the 3GS. I can read sites fine on my Desire. Coming to the Desire, and I do believe the Nexus One already has it (via hack). But can see it coming officially. And what exactly? I have seen nothing that says that this will improve the phones reception & maintaining signal. HTC Desire has 5 MP camera…? AFAIK neither have released more details on what the lens or sensor is. I don’t say what I say to be ‘edgy’ and ‘cool’. I say it because it my opinion. And never once did I say I was right. I do give credit where credit is due. I give credit to the fact that Apple has pretty much imploded the smartphone market. Without the iPhone I can’t have seen the plethora of smartphones we have on the market now. Same goes for tablets devices (iPad) and media players (iPod). What I do hate (and no I don't hate Apple as you imply) is that all logic and sense of reason go out the window when Apple are involved. 1. Thats what i meant Apple designed, its their own CPU 2. So you can read websites with small print zoomed all the way out? I can barely read that on my 1920x1200 monitor let alone on a 800x480 screen. On the iPhone 4s screen text on websites zoomed all the way out are clearly legible. 3. It should be designed for 720p video capture from the start not patched in half assed later on, from what little information ive gleaned this is totally my own opinion but the iPhone 4 will have a better CMOS sensor than any of the HTC phones out now from my experience of HTC phones going all the way back to the HTC Canary in 2001/2002 with its add on camera dongle. 4. So you dont think an external antenna that runs the whole way around half of the phone wont boost reception compared to an internal smaller antenna? 5. Again in my opinion the iPhone will have a way better CMOS sensor than anything HTC has. What vacuum of logic, sense or reason have i displayed in this thread? Im going off hardware facts not some silly fanboy loyalism, the iPhone is more advanced than any phone on the market no matter how much you try and justify the money you spent on the clearly inferior Desire. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/910430-uk-iphone-4-handset-prices-announced-payg/page/5/#findComment-592765356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanLeto Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Hell no. Give me FLASH and stop locking down hardware that's perfectly capable of performing, I will buy Android from now on. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/910430-uk-iphone-4-handset-prices-announced-payg/page/5/#findComment-592765420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh400 Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 (edited) 1. Thats what i meant Apple designed, its their own CPU 2. So you can read websites with small print zoomed all the way out? 3. It should be designed for 720p video capture from the start not patched in half assed later on, from what little information ive gleaned this is totally my own opinion but the iPhone 4 will have a better CMOS sensor than any of the HTC phones out now from my experience of HTC phones going all the way back to the HTC Canary in 2001/2002 with its add on camera dongle. 4. So you dont think an external antenna that runs the whole way around half of the phone wont boost reception compared to an internal smaller antenna? 5. Again in my opinion the iPhone will have a way better CMOS sensor than anything HTC has. What vacuum of logic, sense or reason have i displayed in this thread? I'm going off hardware facts not some silly fanboy loyalism, the iPhone is more advanced than any phone on the market no matter how much you try and justify the money you spent on the clearly inferior Desire. 1. Meant and said are two different things ;) 2. In landscape mode yes, perfectly readable. Portrait no. But again, I have only seen the new "retina display" compared against the older 3GS. Nothing newer. 3. Samsung Galaxy S ;) 4. My original statement still stands, I haven't seen anything that says it will improve reception. Anything I or you say is purely opinion and guesstimate, untill we actually have facts. 5. Exactly, your opinion. Considering we don't have any hardcore facts to go on. And I chose not to answer your last sentence/statement, because it says more about you than me :) Edit* Forget to say, I never said you personally showed any lack of reason, sense or logic. Edited June 16, 2010 by Singh400 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/910430-uk-iphone-4-handset-prices-announced-payg/page/5/#findComment-592765494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PL_ Veteran Posted June 16, 2010 Veteran Share Posted June 16, 2010 So O2 didn't announce any pricing today but they've told us how to switch to a micro SIM. Nothing gets sent off, all done online. http://shop.o2.co.uk/new-iphone/aboutsimswap.html Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/910430-uk-iphone-4-handset-prices-announced-payg/page/5/#findComment-592766970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomZ Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Yeh I wish O2 would pull their fingers out and announce some pricing already Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/910430-uk-iphone-4-handset-prices-announced-payg/page/5/#findComment-592767026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh400 Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Can't imagine O2 will stay silent any longer... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/910430-uk-iphone-4-handset-prices-announced-payg/page/5/#findComment-592767434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian M. Veteran Posted June 16, 2010 Veteran Share Posted June 16, 2010 Can't imagine O2 will stay silent any longer... I dunno, what's weird is that they've pretty much stopped talking on Twitter. At least Vodafone are still talking (allbeit giving the "We dont know when" line). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/910430-uk-iphone-4-handset-prices-announced-payg/page/5/#findComment-592767464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh400 Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 I dunno, what's weird is that they've pretty much stopped talking on Twitter. At least Vodafone are still talking (allbeit giving the "We dont know when" line). Hang on, there is this page if that is what you are looking for? Edit* No it isn't. Just a very generic table of price plans. Nothing in-depth like Orange's. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/910430-uk-iphone-4-handset-prices-announced-payg/page/5/#findComment-592767514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daryld Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 i went in2 an o2 shop today and the girl told me o2 and apple were still in talks as to regards the pricing and not to expect any details before the 22nd Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/910430-uk-iphone-4-handset-prices-announced-payg/page/5/#findComment-592767606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanLeto Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 The prices are already on the Apple website, I wouldn't trust someone stuck in a shop. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/910430-uk-iphone-4-handset-prices-announced-payg/page/5/#findComment-592767658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daryld Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 will the prices not vary though with each network provider for the contract and pay as you go deals Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/910430-uk-iphone-4-handset-prices-announced-payg/page/5/#findComment-592767692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
acnpt Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 http://iphone.orange...ans/#iPhonePAYG So £480 on Orange PAYG.... that's not £450. Considering you have to buy £10 top up with the phone that means it's £490 and then another £10 charge on top to unlock the phone straight away and it's £500. So it makes sense getting it from Apple. I don't think you have to top up £10, looks like it's included to me. Also is the 'Monkey' tariff new, it gives free streaming music & texts. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/910430-uk-iphone-4-handset-prices-announced-payg/page/5/#findComment-592767744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrCheese Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Has to be said: told you so :p O2 will no doubt have a P&G price up today or very soon too. If they ask me to buy another sim with it though I'll explain I'm already an O2 customer and they can phone to check with them :yes: Either that or I'll make sure I buy from my mate in the Apple Store :p Also, with Simplicity on O2 you can unlock iPhones for free using their request site :happy: Oh no, you've saved a whole 10 quid buying a locked payandgo from orange :p >.> Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/910430-uk-iphone-4-handset-prices-announced-payg/page/5/#findComment-592767782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reck Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 O2 have their pay monthly customer prices for handset up. Pay as you go still to come Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/910430-uk-iphone-4-handset-prices-announced-payg/page/5/#findComment-592770650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian M. Veteran Posted June 17, 2010 Veteran Share Posted June 17, 2010 O2 prices are much better than Oranges (contract) - especially on 18 month tariffs. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/910430-uk-iphone-4-handset-prices-announced-payg/page/5/#findComment-592770668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scazza Posted June 17, 2010 Author Share Posted June 17, 2010 O2 prices are much better than Oranges (contract) - especially on 18 month tariffs. Agreed, Oranges 18 Month Contracts are shocking! I went into my local Orange Shop this afternoon (as I have a contract with them at present) and asked them about what the situation is with the iPhone 4 on the 24th with them, can I pre order one on PAYG?! Will they even have any PAYG handsets in?! All I got was that they are opening at 8am and probably best to come in then as they don't know anything at this moment in time........ Btw, I have decided I'm buying a PAYG iPhone 4. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/910430-uk-iphone-4-handset-prices-announced-payg/page/5/#findComment-592771096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjf288 Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Yeah with o2 not selling the pay and go at launch looks like its orange :/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/910430-uk-iphone-4-handset-prices-announced-payg/page/5/#findComment-592771104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazzyyfool Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Pay & Go tariffs You may know this, but you don't need a monthly contract to get an iPhone. iPhone 4 will be coming soon to Pay & Go but it won't be available at launch. When we have more information on pricing we will let you know. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/910430-uk-iphone-4-handset-prices-announced-payg/page/5/#findComment-592771272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
acnpt Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 ^^ No O2 PAYG at launch. :pinch: Apple have really ****ed up with stock shortages. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/910430-uk-iphone-4-handset-prices-announced-payg/page/5/#findComment-592771342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PL_ Veteran Posted June 17, 2010 Veteran Share Posted June 17, 2010 It'd be nice if they said what "soon" means. Days? Weeks? Months? I suppose the fact that they're not taking orders for PAYG gives us a clue :/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/910430-uk-iphone-4-handset-prices-announced-payg/page/5/#findComment-592771466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewmarley Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Think I'll be going for the ?50 on 18 months ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/910430-uk-iphone-4-handset-prices-announced-payg/page/5/#findComment-592771510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ady199 Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Is there any downfall of going on a simplicity contract?? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/910430-uk-iphone-4-handset-prices-announced-payg/page/5/#findComment-592771560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PL_ Veteran Posted June 17, 2010 Veteran Share Posted June 17, 2010 Is there any downfall of going on a simplicity contract?? No phone. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/910430-uk-iphone-4-handset-prices-announced-payg/page/5/#findComment-592771632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakers Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Anyone that has that much money to waste on a phone + contract would be better off investing in technology (or savings for that matter) that aren't obsolete after six months. Crazy, crazy prices. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/910430-uk-iphone-4-handset-prices-announced-payg/page/5/#findComment-592772056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nayos Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Anyone that has that much money to waste on a phone + contract would be better off investing in technology (or savings for that matter) that aren't obsolete after six months. Crazy, crazy prices. You mean like an iPhone? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/910430-uk-iphone-4-handset-prices-announced-payg/page/5/#findComment-592772878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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