Sethos Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 The PS3 is the more powerful system, along with Blu-ray it can have higher res textures on the disc. The 360 does have some advantages but looking at exclusives for PS3, (Uncharted 2), this game should look brilliant, but it doesn't even have grass. Multiplatform games always tend to look and run better on the 360, that's a fact. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/921970-mafia-ii/page/6/#findComment-593019052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Veteran Posted August 11, 2010 Veteran Share Posted August 11, 2010 Multiplatform games always tend to look and run better on the 360, that's a fact. I know, but after 4 years this shouldn't be a problem. I have both consoles so it doesn't matter :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/921970-mafia-ii/page/6/#findComment-593019056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 I know, but after 4 years this shouldn't be a problem. I have both consoles so it doesn't matter :p It'll always be a problem when the hardware is ass backwards to develop for, no developer wants invest the required amount of time into tailor fitting games to the PS3 when they have two other versions to focus on as well. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/921970-mafia-ii/page/6/#findComment-593019076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
treemonster Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 It'll always be a problem when the hardware is ass backwards to develop for, no developer wants invest the required amount of time into tailor fitting games to the PS3 when they have two other versions to focus on as well. +1 this has been the major failing of the sony ps line for a long time now. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/921970-mafia-ii/page/6/#findComment-593019082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted August 11, 2010 Veteran Share Posted August 11, 2010 The PS3 is the more powerful system, along with Blu-ray it can have higher res textures on the disc. The 360 does have some advantages but looking at exclusives for PS3, (Uncharted 2), this game should look brilliant, but it doesn't even have grass. That's because the developers don't use that extra space for larger textures. Oh no, in fact most of it is used for redundant data to make up for that wonderful slow BR drive ;) The only time you see higher res textures is when: 1: it's PS3 exclusive 2: it was the lead platform Neither is the case = no surprise it's in last place on the good looks scale. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/921970-mafia-ii/page/6/#findComment-593019114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pupik Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 The PS3 is the more powerful system, along with Blu-ray it can have higher res textures on the disc. All those high res. textures aren't worth anything, if you don't have a good graphic card to process them. And XBOX360's graphic card is more powerful than the PS3's one. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/921970-mafia-ii/page/6/#findComment-593019118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenom II Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Just downloaded the demo from steam, looks pretty good, enjoyed the level in the demo Gutted @ "To be continued" lol Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/921970-mafia-ii/page/6/#findComment-593019272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAFK Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 This game has some of the most visceral feeling gunfights in a third person game I've played in a while. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/921970-mafia-ii/page/6/#findComment-593019354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massiveterra Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Where did all the grass go LOL? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/921970-mafia-ii/page/6/#findComment-593019356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedon Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 The PS3 is the more powerful system In your opinion. along with Blu-ray it can have higher res textures on the disc. 360 can have the same res textures on the disk as the PS3's Blu-ray. The Blu-ray just has the ability to hold more. They are just storage mediums. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/921970-mafia-ii/page/6/#findComment-593019362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HostileGamer Posted August 12, 2010 Author Share Posted August 12, 2010 Look, it's simple... developers code the game for the weaker of the two systems i.e. xbox360, because of this the port that goes to the ps3 isnt going to be optimized for the ps3 hardware. This makes it cheaper for devolpers to make a game for both sysytems becuase they only have to spend the majority of the budget on making the game for the xbox and only a little bit of it porting it to the ps3. You look at PS3 exclusives, games that were made to take advantage of the ps3 hardware, and it blows away anything the xbox could ever do. Saying that, the PC is the one that USUALLY gets screwed because they sometimes port from the xbox to the PC i.e. GTA IV with the lack of AA and no optomization for GPU hardware which resulted in horrible PC performance. So in saying all this, I will buy this game on PC just to reward the developers for actually making a game to take advantage of the only true gaming platform out there. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/921970-mafia-ii/page/6/#findComment-593020516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konstanov Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Rage has the highest resolution textures of any game ever made and looks great on both consoles, texture arguement is moot. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/921970-mafia-ii/page/6/#findComment-593020790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WastedJoker Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 I'll be getting it on PC for the visuals. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/921970-mafia-ii/page/6/#findComment-593021080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
san.W10 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 always wanted to do this in GTA :p Fun stuff to do in Mafia 2 Your very own Car transporter :p How to load the car - Find the truck, if the trunk is not open, then crash your truck by driving it in reverse.2-3 crash will open the trunk. Find a platform, location like shown in pic. Position the truck & the car & drive the car at some speed, dont crawl. Tips- accelerate gradually, if you throttle too much from stand-still, the car will roll off the truck :psee pic- once you have started moving, you can go full throttle, car stays put. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/921970-mafia-ii/page/6/#findComment-593021082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zain Adeel Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 wow i get 45fps constant with everything max APEX off.. 1080p.... but if i turn APEX on it reduces to 20fps.. and reducing the res to 1600x900 i get about 30fps max..!! i tweaked to remove all other cloth thing exepct of VIC.. and is there a way to remove particle effects? i just want the CLOTHES THING.. and that too on the main character.. ??? possible? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/921970-mafia-ii/page/6/#findComment-593021196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllMac Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Played the DEMO on highest possible settings, but without the APEX setting since I use ATI. Game runs constantly at 60fps. If I turn APEX on, frames can go as low as 30. I'm planing to install a cheap nVidia to pair with 5870, just for apex/physx, but will have to do some tweaking to get the two arch-enemies to work together. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/921970-mafia-ii/page/6/#findComment-593021354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Rambo Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 thanks for the tutorial with pics san.W10. :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/921970-mafia-ii/page/6/#findComment-593021376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfua Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Look, it's simple... developers code the game for the weaker of the two systems i.e. xbox360, because of this the port that goes to the ps3 isnt going to be optimized for the ps3 hardware. This makes it cheaper for devolpers to make a game for both sysytems becuase they only have to spend the majority of the budget on making the game for the xbox and only a little bit of it porting it to the ps3. You look at PS3 exclusives, games that were made to take advantage of the ps3 hardware, and it blows away anything the xbox could ever do. Saying that, the PC is the one that USUALLY gets screwed because they sometimes port from the xbox to the PC i.e. GTA IV with the lack of AA and no optomization for GPU hardware which resulted in horrible PC performance. So in saying all this, I will buy this game on PC just to reward the developers for actually making a game to take advantage of the only true gaming platform out there. Strange, I've heard more developers leading on PS3 for the reason you give. They can get the game running well on PS3 and then quickly port it over to the Xbox without losing performance and usually having enough spare to add AA. It's the reason most multiplatform games are so close now. If you develop for primarily PC, as Mafia 2 was, or the Xbox, Bayonetta for example, then it becomes much harder to get the performance up to scratch on PS3 due to some of the disadvantages with the RSX chip. PS3 exclusives look great but they have the budget and time to develop them for just one platform. They also share code with other Sony studios. No third-party title is ever going to have that luxury. Anyway, this game was clearly designed for PC. It's good to see a developer remaining faithful to the audience that bought the original. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/921970-mafia-ii/page/6/#findComment-593021402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Rambo Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Mafia 2 PC version will be available for only 10$ in my country. :woot: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/921970-mafia-ii/page/6/#findComment-593021622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knife Party Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 when's the release? heard it was sometime this month? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/921970-mafia-ii/page/6/#findComment-593021678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
inactive Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Just finished this on the PC. Looks rather stunning and runs at a perma 60 frames. Tempted to buy it but at only 7-8 hours. I can't justify it. the official estimate is 15 hours. i am sure some will be quicker than that and some might be a little slower. just don't RUSH through it and you should get AT LEAST 10-12+ i would assume. the first game i played and still liked it a lot and i dont know what the official estimate was on that but that game was not short to me at all so if Mafia II is similar in length it won't be one of those games you beat and think to youself 'wow, that was short' or anything like that. i would say the first Mafia is at least a medium length game in my eyes. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/921970-mafia-ii/page/6/#findComment-593021738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
inferniac Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 when's the release? heard it was sometime this month? 24th for the US, 27th in Europe. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/921970-mafia-ii/page/6/#findComment-593021786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Hammond Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Supposedly final build for PS3, it has proper foliage not like the other pics. Gamespot Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/921970-mafia-ii/page/6/#findComment-593021890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pupik Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 With some modification, dynamic car damage was unlocked in the demo. Nice to see some examples of what awaits in the full PC version: http://pix.playground.ru/download/gallery/549746/faa0384e08603ca60d8b52c016852ec8.jpg http://pix.playground.ru/download/gallery/509763/7903b80e6454c20ef445ecd48ad73234.png Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/921970-mafia-ii/page/6/#findComment-593024388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
treemonster Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 so ran the bench again after installing hte physx patch nvidia posted on fb the other day finally. raised my fps considerably from 10 to 37. this is on a i7 920/480/8800gts 512 all stock @ 1920x1080 all settings max physx high aa on. looks really nice. i'll comment on playability later when i play the demo itself for the first time. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/921970-mafia-ii/page/6/#findComment-593029782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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