official Call of Duty: Black Ops

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Hey guys, If you were to recommend BF:BC2, MoH or CoD:BO for multiplayer which one would you shoot for?

I'm wondering about amount of players and longevity of the online community. Don't want to shell out for one and have all the players move on to the next regurgitation.

Forget MoH. It's crap, especially when compared to the other two games. Black Ops is decent, but in my opinion Bad Company 2 is miles better. Not to mention that BC2 is only $20 now (on Steam) so its value to dollar ratio is way, way higher than BO.

[Yorak]

Anybody playing on PC interesting in joining a clan for competition? Shoot me a PM.

[neoadorable]

Black Ops takes MoH for MP, but MoH takes BFBC2 any day of the week, that one was nothing but a sniper fest.

[WastedJoker]

Loved BC2 online but once you unlock everything it gets a bit dull.

[sbauer]

Hey guys, If you were to recommend BF:BC2, MoH or CoD:BO for multiplayer which one would you shoot for?

I'm wondering about amount of players and longevity of the online community. Don't want to shell out for one and have all the players move on to the next regurgitation.

Battlefield. I'm playing Black Ops right now, but it still doesn't compare to BF for me.

[Yusuf M. Veteran]

Thanks very much :)! Are you playing black ops on a console these days then?

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You're welcome. Yes, I play it on the Xbox 360. I'm a PC gamer at heart but I can't resist the temptation of gaming with my best friends, all of whom play it on the Xbox 360.

[+.Vamp Subscriber²]

You're welcome. Yes, I play it on the Xbox 360. I'm a PC gamer at heart but I can't resist the temptation of gaming with my best friends, all of whom play it on the Xbox 360.

Yeah I know that Dilemma. Luckily my friends are avid PCers too (though we all have Xbox's as well) so any of them who got it did so on PC. I'd do the same as you if they got it on xbox though - FPS's are more fun played with friends, whether it's shooting them in the face on opposing sides or teaming up and working as a group/pair.

[WastedJoker]

I don't have any r/t friends who play on PC so I tend to get together with guys from another forum :ninja:

Has anyone ever had games where you just can't shoot jack? My ping for the server was fine but whenever I shot someone it was in front, behind or over their heads :angry:

[Circaflex]

what needs to happen is they need to fix the freakin knife, im tired of getting lunge stabbed from 5 feet away and im tired of putting 1 in the chest and head and having them still be able to run full speed at me and knife me...

[Huleboeren]

what needs to happen is they need to fix the freakin knife, im tired of getting lunge stabbed from 5 feet away and im tired of putting 1 in the chest and head and having them still be able to run full speed at me and knife me...

If youre not already playing hardcore mode then that is where you should go :D

[sbauer]

If youre not already playing hardcore mode then that is where you should go :D

Yeah. Pretty much. It's difficult to play outside of hardcore mode. Even then, I still have to hope I'm in a good game. I've been in a lot of campfests where players sit in corners and wait for people to walk by.

For the most part it is a lot better than the standard, no skill, run around while spraying-and-praying crap. It's a lot better than shooting a guy twice in the head only to see him lunge at you with a knife.

[Green_Eye]

On the topic of the knife lunge I want to take the team at Treyarch responsible for that onto a field have them stand 15 feet away from me wielding knives, I on the other hand will have a fully automatic assault rifle, they can all lunge at me, then and only then will they realise how stupid that gameplay design is...

[Hedon]

I like the lunge, though I rarely use it.

[trag3dy]

What was it you guys said when the first multiplayer trailers were released for this game? Hmm?

"There is no lunge they took out commando"

Uh huh..nope they just gave it to everyone instead. :laugh:

[sweetham]

What was it you guys said when the first multiplayer trailers were released for this game? Hmm?

"There is no lunge they took out commando"

Uh huh..nope they just gave it to everyone instead. :laugh:

From my experience playing the game on 360 so far, the lunge is still there somewhat. Not as bad as MW2 was but it seems to be dependent on how good the connection is as well. I have seen people knife me from distances that I can never replicate myself, and I have seen people try to knife right on top of my and not get a lunge. I guess my biggest complaint is the still the fact of the lock-on lunge still results in a kill 99% of the time even if your blade never touches the person's body. It is janky and shouldnt happen, but at least it seems to have been toned down from MW2

[Lamp0]

How is every else finding this on Xbox? I find the whole online "netcode" really shoddy in terms of lag/hitreg/hitboxs. It seems a hell of a lot worse than previous games. I often find I get killed in one or two shots, which shouldn't happen with anything other than the snipers. Also getting killed when I am clearly out of the line of fire is an big issue.

[what]

How is every else finding this on Xbox? I find the whole online "netcode" really shoddy in terms of lag/hitreg/hitboxs. It seems a hell of a lot worse than previous games. I often find I get killed in one or two shots, which shouldn't happen with anything other than the snipers. Also getting killed when I am clearly out of the line of fire is an big issue.

The game doesn't test player's connections thoroughly enough when the host drops out and it has to find a new one. If the host has a slow connection then those issues are going to be common.

[mikebiacsi]

How is every else finding this on Xbox? I find the whole online "netcode" really shoddy in terms of lag/hitreg/hitboxs. It seems a hell of a lot worse than previous games. I often find I get killed in one or two shots, which shouldn't happen with anything other than the snipers. Also getting killed when I am clearly out of the line of fire is an big issue.

I've had the same problem. Being killed in one or two hits doesn't bother me much as I play hardcore almost exclusivly. Being killed when I'm out of the line of fire annoys me to no end, as does being killed even when I shoot the guy first.

[ienhz]

Where did this one-hit melee kill start from anyway? I wish they would make the knifing like in CS where it takes multiple stabs to kill someone. It's ridiculous that the knife is more of a go-to weapon than your sidearm/pistol (and even your primary in some cases). It would also make knife kills actually satisfying/humiliating rather than being a cheese kill.

[draklin]

Where did this one-hit melee kill start from anyway? I wish they would make the knifing like in CS where it takes multiple stabs to kill someone. It's ridiculous that the knife is more of a go-to weapon than your sidearm/pistol (and even your primary in some cases). It would also make knife kills actually satisfying/humiliating rather than being a cheese kill.

You mean like how a guys rushes at you and you shoot him several times only to die because he knifed you before your bullets did enough damage to kill him? I would like it if they put in a halo-like assassination if you knife a guy from behind though.

[Jan Veteran]

Knifing is quite annoying in Black Ops, I feel as though it's worse then commando in some cases, but when I play Sticks And Stones, all i ever get killed by is by somebody knifing me, seriously? Where is the fun in that??

[Yusuf M. Veteran]

Knifing is quite annoying in Black Ops, I feel as though it's worse then commando in some cases, but when I play Sticks And Stones, all i ever get killed by is by somebody knifing me, seriously? Where is the fun in that??

What's worse is when you knife someone and lunge toward them only to miss. What's even worse is games where people back out because their team had a bad start. I care about my K/D ratio because of the spirit of competition between my friends, but I won't back out of a game because I'm doing bad. It's really frustrating because host migration seems to only work once.

[sweetham]

How is every else finding this on Xbox? I find the whole online "netcode" really shoddy in terms of lag/hitreg/hitboxs. It seems a hell of a lot worse than previous games. I often find I get killed in one or two shots, which shouldn't happen with anything other than the snipers. Also getting killed when I am clearly out of the line of fire is an big issue.

I have always thought CoD always had shoddy network code, even MW1. However its really no different that the Halo series, Gears of War, etc. I will say black ops for me has less laggy games overall compare to MW2 but also the hitboxes still seem way too large and like others pointed out, getting ht and killed whe out of the line of fire is highly annoying. MW2 had the same issue for me I would always get killed even though I was already 3 feet around a corner and still running. The killcam would show hit registers even though there is no body in plain sight to hit. Most of it boils down to the hitboxes being overly massive to help compensate for lag. It would be nice if treyarch would tweak them though.

Overall so far I think this is a better put together game than treyarch's previous attempt (WaW). The game still has issues which is inherent with the CoD game engine overall but still better IMO.

[DamianGM]

For those people who have performance issues on PC, some users posted in Steam forums that downgrading to Windows XP fixed all the problems for them. Here is the original thread.

For me downgrading isn't an option, my game runs well right now on Win7, but still with little problems. Could virtualization (maybe on WMware) be a solution?

[Chasethebase Veteran]

You're serious that people even considered that? Runs smoothly except a bit jittery occasionally now. No idea why at this point.