+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted September 2, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted September 2, 2010 Stephen Hawking says universe not created by God • Physics, not creator, made Big Bang, new book claims • Professor had previously referred to 'mind of God' God did not create the universe, the man who is arguably Britain's most famous living scientist says in a forthcoming book. In the new work, The Grand Design, Professor Stephen Hawking argues that the Big Bang, rather than occurring following the intervention of a divine being, was inevitable due to the law of gravity. In his 1988 book, A Brief History of Time, Hawking had seemed to accept the role of God in the creation of the universe. But in the new text, co-written with American physicist Leonard Mlodinow, he said new theories showed a creator is "not necessary". The Grand Design, an extract of which appears in the Times today, sets out to contest Sir Isaac Newton's belief that the universe must have been designed by God as it could not have been created out of chaos. "Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing," he writes. "Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist. "It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the universe going." In the forthcoming book, published on 9 September, Hawking says that M-theory, a form of string theory, will achieve this goal: "M-theory is the unified theory Einstein was hoping to find," he theorises. "The fact that we human beings – who are ourselves mere collections of fundamental particles of nature – have been able to come this close to an understanding of the laws governing us and our universe is a great triumph." Hawking says the first blow to Newton's belief that the universe could not have arisen from chaos was the observation in 1992 of a planet orbiting a star other than our Sun. "That makes the coincidences of our planetary conditions – the single sun, the lucky combination of Earth-sun distance and solar mass – far less remarkable, and far less compelling as evidence that the Earth was carefully designed just to please us human beings," he writes. Hawking had previously appeared to accept the role of God in the creation of the universe. Writing in his bestseller A Brief History Of Time in 1988, he said: "If we discover a complete theory, it would be the ultimate triumph of human reason – for then we should know the mind of God." Hawking resigned as Lucasian Professor of Mathematics at Cambridge University last year after 30 years in the position. Source: The Guardian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motoko. Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Cool Story Bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted September 2, 2010 Veteran Share Posted September 2, 2010 "? Physics, not creator, made Big Bang, new book claims" Claims? It's a pretty well accepted conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun N. Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Cool Story Bro. Story? Where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+John. Subscriber¹ Posted September 2, 2010 Subscriber¹ Share Posted September 2, 2010 "? Physics, not creator, made Big Bang, new book claims" Claims? It's a pretty well accepted conclusion. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 BLASPHEMY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollow.Droid Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 "If we discover a complete theory, it would be the ultimate triumph of human reason – for then we should know the mind of God." Didn't a theorist once say that the human mind will never be able to understand the complexity of how we were created? I'm sure I read that somewhere at neowin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt4pack Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 So what created physics and then what created whatever created physics? You get to a point where you just have to shrug your shoulders no matter what you believe in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brentaal Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 So what created physics? Created? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motoko. Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 So what created physics? God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kudos Veteran Posted September 2, 2010 Veteran Share Posted September 2, 2010 God. What created God? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yelreve Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 No one created physics, it is just a term we use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkenBeard Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 "? Physics, not creator, made Big Bang, new book claims" Claims? It's a pretty well accepted conclusion. On what grounds ? I'm yet to find any serious document that explains the origins of the universe in a scientifically rigorous way, so I'm very eager to read on this M-theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motoko. Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 What created God? Such a question doesn't exist because it doesn't apply to God. It's simply beyond what we know. That's how I see it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Johnny Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Such a question doesn't exist because it doesn't apply to God. It's simply beyond what we know. That's how I see it anyway. Either way - there's always going to be something that is beyond our understanding. What ever came first - how can something come from nothing? Which I'm sure also goes against the First Law of Thermodyanmics. And saying it's just "there" doesn't really explain anything - it's doubtful we'll ever understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanx Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Call me a reductionist, but a scientist saying something that science has been banging about -- no pun intended -- for decades/centuries? University of bleeding obvious malarkey? :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 I'm going to say it. Everyone who believes in God, you have been brainwashed. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted September 2, 2010 Author Subscriber² Share Posted September 2, 2010 Such a question doesn't exist because it doesn't apply to God. It's simply beyond what we know. That's how I see it anyway. There is no god. The concept of deities was what humans came up with to explain the unexplainable. That's all there is to it. It's time to drop a concept which dates back to the stone age and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 God. Which god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexcyn Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Really Stephen I had no idea. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisp Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 I AM GOD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motoko. Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 There is no god. The concept of deities was what humans came up with to explain the unexplainable. That's all there is to it. It's time to drop a concept which dates back to the stone age and move on. That's the kind of attitude that promotes extremism when you think about it. I could tell you that being an atheist is barbaric, see what I did there? over debating only hurts it never helps, so why not be tolerant and respectful of what others believe in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sudo Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 There is no god. And you know this... how exactly? The concept of deities was what humans came up with to explain the unexplainable. That's all there is to it. And science explains everything now? It's time to drop a concept which dates back to the stone age and move on. By this reasoning, any concepts dating back to the stone age should be dropped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anibal P Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 The Same Hawkins moron that claims the Earth will be destroyed by aliens????? He lost whatever credibility he might have had with retarded comments like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellofsouls Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Such a question doesn't exist because it doesn't apply to God. It's simply beyond what we know. That's how I see it anyway. and the question of "what created physics" doesn't exist because it doesn't apply to physics neither... or you can say, physics IS God :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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