Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick out NOW!

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Not formatting windows, Im using Wubi

You don't need to format windows to install Ubuntu.

nVidia drivers - but also I am experiencing hanging when authenticating things, such as setting default power options, and having to enter the password, the password box hangs and doesnt work until hitting the X and trying again

Sounds odd. Did you do an update before activating the proprietary driver? What Nvidia card are you using?

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Lots of problems booting the desktop version - keeps freezing on black screen and then saying a time out occured

Rebooting fixes it temporarily

Probably to do with using Wubi. Install Ubuntu in a dual boot with windows using the live cd, that should fix your problems.

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Probably to do with using Wubi. Install Ubuntu in a dual boot with windows using the live cd, that should fix your problems.

Nothing to do with Wubi, had 10.04 running fine for months with Wubi

Dualboot kills my windows install, tried it many times and it stops windows booting by overlapping the partitions for some obscure reason.. but that issue is old and dealt with so no need to go back into it

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Huh?

So what is the preferred distro for experts such as yourself?

On the original post. Maverick looks sweet. Not too many new features, because this is clearly a spit and polish version focusing on stability.

It's still pretty experimental from what I hear. I'm looking forward to testing it on my acer aspire one.

Let me know how that goes. It's an Acer Aspire One that I installed it to.

I can sort of understand where Cork1958's coming from regarding Ubuntu being bloatware. I, for example, installed Ubuntu NBR and removed loads of stuff that I didn't need. So I guess it is a bit bloated in that respect. Users fortunately have the option whether they want to stick with the default installation or not. More advanced users are more capable of fine tuning it to their needs, less experienced users tend to be comfortable with the default settings. So saying that ubuntu's for noobs isn't accurate IMO. Out of the box ubuntu is great for noobs - but if you want to get your hands dirty, there's nothing stopping you.

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I was thinking the same thing!

What I find amusing about people who make comments like this, quite clearly, demonstrate their lack of understanding about how Linux works! From a command line perspective all Linux distributions are the same, Linux is Linux! The veneer on top is just that, veneer! Take it away and then everyone moans about how ugly Linux is or that it is unrefined and so on and so on!!

Precisely. They all have the same tools, and thus are capable of the same functionality. I can never understand the argument that one distro is for noobs, while another is for pros. I've used most of them, from Gentoo, to SuSE, to Ubuntu, and they are all virtually the same under the hood. Sure there are some minor cosmetic and GUI tool differences, but they can all be made to do things in simple ways.

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Ubuntu has its swappiness set for 60, but 10 is fine if you've got plenty of RAM. This will reduce the tendency of the system to use the swap file when it doesn't need to.

Here's how to change it:

Terminal:

gksudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf

Search for vm.swappiness and change its value as desired. If vm.swappiness does not exist, add it to the end of the file like so:

vm.swappiness=10

Save the file and reboot. I have 3GB of ram and this seems to make things speedier.

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Dude, if you have 3gb of ram, it's unlikely you'll need swap space at all. I have 2gb and never even bothered creating a swap partition. Gives a nice quiet disk :D

Actually, you're probably right I should get rid of my swap altogether!

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You really do live up to your name! Try this in a Windows thread on this board and see what happens! Please let me know when you do!

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You obviously don't have a clue do you? How old are you, 12?

James7 and Microsoft_Bob: Interesting what both of you said! I have 6 gig of RAM and always make a 2 Gig swap partition. So you reckon I could do without it at all? Any place that discusses this in depth? Not that I don't take your word for it but a few of my mates are pretty clued up when it come to Linux never really mention doing something like this! Thanks!

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James7 and Microsoft_Bob: Interesting what both of you said! I have 6 gig of RAM and always make a 2 Gig swap partition. So you reckon I could do without it at all? Any place that discusses this in depth? Not that I don't take your word for it but a few of my mates are pretty clued up when it come to Linux never really mention doing something like this! Thanks!

I have heard that you want the swap file there in case you go over the limits of your RAM. But what if you go over the limits of your swap too?

I mean, I have 3GB of RAM, and Microsoft_Bob says I shouldn't even need a swap file. I think he's probably right there. I currently have a 2GB swap file. But I have checked my System Monitor (under System-->Administration in Ubuntu) and I don't ever seem to be using even half of my RAM, and none of my swap.

It's sort of a half-way house above, where I put that bit about swappiness (you can even try, as I have done, setting swappiness to "vm.swappiness=0"). But of course the real test would be to set up a system without a swap file, so I guess Microsoft_Bob is more clued up on that option. Maybe I'll have a go with this and see what happens. What's the worst thing that could happen? A "not enough memory" error? Does anyone know?

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You really do live up to your name! Try this in a Windows thread on this board and see what happens! Please let me know when you do!

You obviously don't have a clue do you? How old are you, 12?

James7 and Microsoft_Bob: Interesting what both of you said! I have 6 gig of RAM and always make a 2 Gig swap partition. So you reckon I could do without it at all? Any place that discusses this in depth? Not that I don't take your word for it but a few of my mates are pretty clued up when it come to Linux never really mention doing something like this! Thanks!

You'll need a swap partition if you want to use hibernation. But other than that, you could probably get away with not having a swap partition. If you've got the disk space spare you might as well have one though. Better to have one and not need it than need one and not have it....why does that sound familiar? :laugh:

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Nothing new, just small things here and there, but overall ubuntu is a great way to start on linux.

My attention right now is on Windows 8 UI consistency improvements :shiftyninja:

Yeah, I tried it out and I wasn't impressed much by it. I don't know if that's just because I've been using it since it was an Alpha or what.

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I have heard that you want the swap file there in case you go over the limits of your RAM. But what if you go over the limits of your swap too?

I mean, I have 3GB of RAM, and Microsoft_Bob says I shouldn't even need a swap file. I think he's probably right there. I currently have a 2GB swap file. But I have checked my System Monitor (under System-->Administration in Ubuntu) and I don't ever seem to be using even half of my RAM, and none of my swap.

It's sort of a half-way house above, where I put that bit about swappiness (you can even try, as I have done, setting swappiness to "vm.swappiness=0"). But of course the real test would be to set up a system without a swap file, so I guess Microsoft_Bob is more clued up on that option. Maybe I'll have a go with this and see what happens. What's the worst thing that could happen? A "not enough memory" error? Does anyone know?

A belated thanks for the reply! Had to step away from the PC for a bit! Yeah, I think what I am going to do is, install 32Bit 10.10 on a old P4 with 2gig of RAM that I have and see how it performs, could be interesting! Thanks again for your input!

You'll need a swap partition if you want to use hibernation. But other than that, you could probably get away with not having a swap partition. If you've got the disk space spare you might as well have one though. Better to have one and not need it than need one and not have it....why does that sound familiar? :laugh:

In the 30 years or so that I have been working with PC's I don't think I've ever used the hibernation function except on Laptops so this should not be an issue! And as to the "why does that sound familiar?" it's probably because it's true to a helluva lot of things in life and especially when dealing with PC's! :laugh: :laugh: Cool man, thanks for the input!

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In the 30 years or so that I have been working with PC's I don't think I've ever used the hibernation function except on Laptops so this should not be an issue! And as to the "why does that sound familiar?" it's probably because it's true to a helluva lot of things in life and especially when dealing with PC's! :laugh: :laugh: Cool man, thanks for the input!

I don't ever use Hibernate or whatever myself. I just shut down and restart when needed. But I can see mouldypunk's point. In this case it seems you'd want to have a swap file equal to the size of your RAM, if I'm not mistaken.

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