Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick out NOW!

[Knife Party]

Also who thought tje 1pixel window borders where a good idea. Practically impossible to redize windowds. And still with the stupid left aligned buttons.

:rolleyes:

[ViperAFK]

So did the "windicators" feature never happen in maverick?

[Knife Party]

So did the "windicators" feature never happen in maverick?

wondering aswell, btw where is that new sound theme?

[bjoswald]

It's quick-'n'-slick but buggy (as always). Still an OS for bored nerds. You'd find it on a bundled CD with an enthusiast magazine but that's it.

[HawkMan]

:rolleyes:

what? you think a 1 pixel border you have to aim for like a sniper trying to get a headshot on a target 1 km away without a scope is a good idea ?

[tomjol]

Also who thought tje 1pixel window borders where a good idea. Practically impossible to redize windowds. And still with the stupid left aligned buttons.

The concept of window borders is entirely alien on an obscure, unpopular-with-consumers OS such as that you'd find on a Mac.

[selphj]

My big issue with it is poor laptop support. My e6400 goes to sleep whenever I dock it. Ok so I figure out how to manually change the string to "none" on the lid-close action. Next problem, nvidia drivers go crazy switching between the builtin screen and the 2 dual monitors on the docking station. Windows 7 just completely worked with no adustments on install. Granted I could fiddle with ubuntu 10.10 to get it to work most likely but I'm just saying, they shouldn't ignore laptops.

[Ci7]

And USB flash drive for clean completely formatted drive install

what is the best method to install from flash ?

thx

[M4nB3arP1g]

what is the best method to install from flash ?

thx

I like to use UNetbootin when installing from a flash drive. It sets up the drive for you and all you have to do is boot from it.

[x-scratch]

i installed this on my netbook everything works wonders that 10.04 couldnt do out the box

btw when using a usb stick to install it would not install so i had to use a cdr to install

[Microsoft_Bob]

This is effin ridiculous though. My wireless works during setup, but after install it doesn't work and says there's no firmware... pretty sure they mean driver. And cabled is doing it's usual 4 year old routine and refusing to work... it's coded by effin monkeys

I know what you mean, I had to fix a Vista PC for my sister in law, and the wireless was just screwy, going on, then off repeatedly, then I installed Ubuntu 10.04 and it worked straight out of the box and it's never been a problem since. The drivers on windows can be really sh***y, especially as they are closed source. I mean no one can see how terrible they really are, so they're not open to criticism. That's what's great about FOSS. Someone can always improve them, or write better ones from scratch :D

[LightShadow]

I'm weird in that I love the Netbook Edition! I'm installing it via Wubi on my laptop (connected to a monitor). It looks great on non-netbooks! They should have just had an option to use it on Ubuntu Desktop.

[HawkMan]

To reiterate on stupid bugs in debian based distros (possibly only ubuntu based, dunno).

after I ran it as a live disk today, removed the partitions. rebooted. reran live, and installed with NO trace of any old nix or osx86 partitons in sight when I started the install.. wired networking works.

this ****'s all effed up. and I still don't see why, when wireless works in live and during install, it can't work after install... seriously bad coding.

[HawkMan]

I know what you mean, I had to fix a Vista PC for my sister in law, and the wireless was just screwy, going on, then off repeatedly, then I installed Ubuntu 10.04 and it worked straight out of the box and it's never been a problem since. The drivers on windows can be really sh***y, especially as they are closed source. I mean no one can see how terrible they really are, so they're not open to criticism. That's what's great about FOSS. Someone can always improve them, or write better ones from scratch :D

Noone really does that, noone cares that FF is open source, noone cares that linux is open source, the only people who change anything in the code are those who work on the code to start with or already tamper with it. Even peopel who code professionally don't go home boot up their OS and see something they don't like and go "Oh I'm gonna use my spare time to change that code for several hours a day for a few months". no, they want their crap to juts work when they boot up.

and if I happen to be on a computer some some weird ass 0.0001% ultra rare wireless card that don't have a fully working and stable driver shipping with 7, you know what I can do. I can pop in a network cable and download the driver. apparently for that work on Ubuntu, I need to troubleshoot why it doesn't work for hours first, then spend several more rebooting and cleaning all traces of *nix from my system before I start the install.

Funny how that never happens with an OS where there's a proper responsible company behind it that needs to take proper responsibility if something doesn't work.

[Growled Member]

It's quick-'n'-slick but buggy (as always). Still an OS for bored nerds. You'd find it on a bundled CD with an enthusiast magazine but that's it.

And proud of it.

[Scorbing]

It's quick-'n'-slick but buggy (as always). Still an OS for bored nerds. You'd find it on a bundled CD with an enthusiast magazine but that's it.

Oh yeah, like Windows 7 and Mac OS X are not buggy, right?...Please.

Remember Windows ME? Remember Windows Vista?...Hell, remember Windows 98 - First Edition? or XP first edition for that matter?...Come on, no OS is perfect and for a free OS, I think they have done one hell of a good job.

[Farstrider]

Noone really does that, noone cares that FF is open source, noone cares that linux is open source, the only people who change anything in the code are those who work on the code to start with or already tamper with it. Even peopel who code professionally don't go home boot up their OS and see something they don't like and go "Oh I'm gonna use my spare time to change that code for several hours a day for a few months". no, they want their crap to juts work when they boot up.

and if I happen to be on a computer some some weird ass 0.0001% ultra rare wireless card that don't have a fully working and stable driver shipping with 7, you know what I can do. I can pop in a network cable and download the driver. apparently for that work on Ubuntu, I need to troubleshoot why it doesn't work for hours first, then spend several more rebooting and cleaning all traces of *nix from my system before I start the install.

Funny how that never happens with an OS where there's a proper responsible company behind it that needs to take proper responsibility if something doesn't work.

And MS gives a ****, like when they unleashed crap like Windows ME and Vista on the unsuspecting public! Yeah right, please do not make me laugh!

I've just figured out what your problem is, you don't know what you are doing! I have done installs on all sorts of laptops and PC's, with Ubuntu Linux, for about two years or so and I have never had the problems that you are having! Sure I have run into certain issues but it's no different to the issues that I've run into while doing thousands of Windows installs through the years! As for Canonical and Mark Shuttleworth not being a responsible company, now I really know that you do not know what you are talking about!

Oh and btw the words, no and one are two separate words! Good luck with your install! Perhaps you should find a Linux expert to give you a hand!

[HawkMan]

And MS gives a ****, like when they unleashed crap like Windows ME and Vista on the unsuspecting public! Yeah right, please do not make me laugh!

I've just figured out what your problem is, you don't know what you are doing! I have done installs on all sorts of laptops and PC's, with Ubuntu Linux, for about two years or so and I have never had the problems that you are having! Sure I have run into certain issues but it's no different to the issues that I've run into while doing thousands of Windows installs through the years! As for Canonical and Mark Shuttleworth not being a responsible company, now I really know that you do not know what you are talking about!

Oh and btw the words, no and one are two separate words! Good luck with your install! Perhaps you should find a Linux expert to give you a hand!

I never used ME, but it worked for most people. me personally I was going for 2000 then. As for Vista, Vista worked perfectly for me, installed all my drivers on install, worked, not huge bugs. It just worked. I didn't need to reinstall 5 times just to get networking to work. the pad on my laptop worked properly. It auto connected to WiFi networks without me needing to do it manually all the time. when I put it to sleep at work and started it up back home, it didn't keep trying to connect to the work network, but immediately connected to my home network.

[jbarcus81]

Are you using a LiveCD? I usually only get I/O errors because of a bad burn.

Yeah, a CD downloaded via torrent.. I'll have to put this on hold for a moment until I get a new monitor though, but I'll try a new burn, I assumed that could have been the problem.. Thanks!!

[WV2MJR]

Oh yeah, like Windows 7 and Mac OS X are not buggy, right?...Please.

Remember Windows ME? Remember Windows Vista?...Hell, remember Windows 98 - First Edition? or XP first edition for that matter?...Come on, no OS is perfect and for a free OS, I think they have done one hell of a good job.

Two major bugs I came across:

#1 - My Wireless randomly stops working (Windows = No problems)

#2 - The time & calender on the desktop toolbar stops working (Windows = No problems)

[LaP]

Noone really does that, noone cares that FF is open source, noone cares that linux is open source, the only people who change anything in the code are those who work on the code to start with or already tamper with it. Even peopel who code professionally don't go home boot up their OS and see something they don't like and go "Oh I'm gonna use my spare time to change that code for several hours a day for a few months". no, they want their crap to juts work when they boot up.

and if I happen to be on a computer some some weird ass 0.0001% ultra rare wireless card that don't have a fully working and stable driver shipping with 7, you know what I can do. I can pop in a network cable and download the driver. apparently for that work on Ubuntu, I need to troubleshoot why it doesn't work for hours first, then spend several more rebooting and cleaning all traces of *nix from my system before I start the install.

Funny how that never happens with an OS where there's a proper responsible company behind it that needs to take proper responsibility if something doesn't work.

I guess you never had any problem with Vista ...

A girl i work with had. Windows Vista was rebooting over and over even when booting in safe mode. System restore would not resolve the problem. Inserting the oem vista cd would simply boot a recovery partition created by the oem vendor instead of actually booting the CD to recover the OS. And guess what ? The only thing this recovery partition did was trying to boot Vista over and over.

What MS did for her ? MS told her to call HP. What HP did for her ? Told her to send his PC for repair which was not free since the PC short warranty was over. The PC was not even broken. Vista was. And last time i checked HP doesn't make Vista MS does.

I spent an entire night checking the disk for error, trying to make something out of this ***** oem recovery partition, searching online with the error message as a key word. Found out that many people had this error message (can't recall what it was) and nobody had a solution to recover Vista from it.

Finally decided to backup data and format the whole HD using a linux live cd and re-install Vista.

[HawkMan]

considering part of my job is fixing up PC's, I've seen plenty of vista computers with problems.

just not stuff like networking not working at all on a brand new install. and it's not like ubuntu makes it incredibly easy to download the network drivers on another computer either.

As for that specific problem, it probably was user caused to start with and wouldn't be covered by warranty anyway. and over here. there's mandatory 1 year warranty, then 5 years reclamation, which more or less means you get 5 years warranty. though not entirely, but more or less.

I also recognize the fault, and a google should have give you the solution. It happened on a few series on laptops after a windows update, though not always, I think the update failed occasionally causing it. boot the ocmputer with a linux live or windows WPE disk, and remove the windows update text file that tells it what update to apply next boot, and reboot. and it's fine.

Also MS does NOT support OEM licenses, which is why OEM copies are cheap.the person/company who installs the OEM software is responsible for providing support. Which in this case means that HP WAS the place to turn to for support. it's why OEM's are cheaper. also something to remember next time you install an OEM copy on a friends computer.

[DavidM]

I'm weird in that I love the Netbook Edition! I'm installing it via Wubi on my laptop (connected to a monitor). It looks great on non-netbooks! They should have just had an option to use it on Ubuntu Desktop.

I tried that all I got was a "No Unity Driver Found" Error, still trying to figure out why..

[WV2MJR]

I believe Ubuntu has a lot of potential but it?s not ready to be used as the default operating system for most computer users. With that said, if all the bugs can be worked out and more windows applications come to Linux (such as Steam), I believe Ubuntu may actually be considered a ?competitor? to Windows and Mac in the near future.

The arrogance of some Linux user?s is a real problem. They need to tone it down. This attitude of ?well your just a noob, you shouldn?t even bother using Linux? seriously needs to stop. That is not helping your cause but actually have the opposite effect and pushing people away from Linux. If anything you want people to switch to Linux from Windows, not from Windows to Mac.

[Farstrider]

The arrogance of some Linux user?s is a real problem.

Seriously, if I had a dime for every time I heard this, I would be a millionaire by now! This is such BS that I actually get hacked when I hear this nonsense! On forums that are mainly Windows forums like this one is, it is OK for the majority to make arrogant statements but when the so called "Linux" users reply in kind it is suddenly "arrogance!" Really dude, do yourself a favour and go to a few Linux support forums and see for yourself how helpful the guys are!

...but it?s not ready to be used as the default operating system for most computer users.

Sorry, with this I also completely disagree, it is quite capable of providing EVERYTHING that is need for the average user! Because "Windows" is the de facto operating system, for PC's, this does not mean that there are no alternatives as regards other operating systems!