Mac OS X Lion Discussion

[Quillz]

Apple bumped the maximum icon size again. :laugh:

That's actually interesting, as it matches up with the rumors about Lion supporting very high resolutions or something in future hardware revisions.

[strelok1911]

OMG! Someone mod Chameleon already to be compatibile with Lion. I'm dying hereeeeee. :(

[celticpride678]

I still find it amazing that iTunes hasn't been touched in Lion. No full screen support, no UI changes...nothing. C'mon, Apple!

[Jan Veteran]

OMG! Someone mod Chameleon already to be compatibile with Lion. I'm dying hereeeeee. :(

:D

I still find it amazing that iTunes hasn't been touched in Lion. No full screen support, no UI changes...nothing. C'mon, Apple!

Don't worry - iTunes will most likely support full-screen in September. Or at Lion's release date.

[.Neo]

I can't seem to see your images, .Neo...

Link works just fine so...

[celticpride678]

Don't worry - iTunes will most likely support full-screen in September. Or at Lion's release date.

I think they're planning something for Lion.

[.Neo]

Don't worry - iTunes will most likely support full-screen in September. Or at Lion's release date.

Wouldn't be too sure, iTunes never integrated with the OS or used any of its new features. Maybe things turn out differently with iTunes 11 but looking at Apple's past record... :/

[what]

Why would they make iTunes fullscreen? It's a media library app/online store. No need for it to be fullscreen, surely?

[Jonnoy]

multiple chats are now in one window in iChat, is this new?… i like :)

[celticpride678]

Why would they make iTunes fullscreen? It's a media library app/online store. No need for it to be fullscreen, surely?

Because nearly every other Apple-made app already supports full-screen.

[Quillz]

Why would they make iTunes fullscreen? It's a media library app/online store. No need for it to be fullscreen, surely?

It's not that it doesn't support fullscreen, it's that you can't do any of the new things in Lion because of it being Carbon. No resizing from any side or corner. No iOS-style scrollbars. iTunes need to be rewritten in Cocoa to take advantage of all of these things.

And it wouldn't be very good advertising if Apple's latest OS, which talks quite extensively about the new resizing and scroll bar options, doesn't have those features working on perhaps the most popular Apple software.

[.Neo]

And it wouldn't be very good advertising if Apple's latest OS, which talks quite extensively about the new resizing and scroll bar options, doesn't have those features working on perhaps the most popular Apple software.

This has always been the case with iTunes.

[Quillz]

This has always been the case with iTunes.

All the more reason for them to have a Cocoa version of iTunes ready with Lion.

I wonder what there actual reason is for having it remain in Cocoa. Just laziness? Or maybe it makes it easier to maintain a version for Windows, as well.

[protocol7]

All the more reason for them to have a Cocoa version of iTunes ready with Lion.

We all thought the same thing with Snow Leopard and nothing changed.

[Quillz]

We all thought the same thing with Snow Leopard and nothing changed.

Well, this time, iTunes would look even more visually out of place, even more so in Snow Leopard, with the resizing handle and the lack of the new resizing cursors. Maybe Apple was just waiting for Lion, who knows.

Although looking through various things on ADC, I can't find any indication of a possible Cocoa version of iTunes. (Though I doubt something like that would ever be listed, anyway.)

[Chlorpromazine]

Because nearly every other Apple-made app already supports full-screen.

I don't get the whole point of a full screen app. Maybe it's just me, but the vast majority of my free time / work requires multiple application in sight.

[DigitalE]

Mission Control looks nice, but I'm not quite sold on Launchpad yet.

[protocol7]

Not sure if anyone has tried this yet, but if you burn the InstallESD.dmg file to a DVD you can boot it and do a clean install like a regular install disc.

[alisalem]

Link works just fine so...

I get this

[Vice]

Why would they make iTunes fullscreen? It's a media library app/online store. No need for it to be fullscreen, surely?

And it makes more sense in Mail, iPhoto, iMovie, Preview etc? - I'm not a fan of this fullscreen stuff. I like having multiple windows that is why I have large screens so I can move things around and be more productive. Having an App taking up 100% of my screen for me is bad and detrimental to my productivity. Nice that Apple has added it I guess but for me Fullscreen is a feature I will never have any use for.

[careless_monkey]

How easy is it for people to use Lion who don't have multi-touch support in their Macbooks?

[protocol7]

I can manage ok. I just use it the same way I use Snow.

[PyX]

How easy is it for people to use Lion who don't have multi-touch support in their Macbooks?

Probably as easy as the ones with a mouse and cursor, like me.

Which means pretty easy...

The multitouch trackpad is a nice add-on to the OS though, but far from being a requirement.

[Simon Veteran]

As much as I hated it initially, I'm starting to think inverted scrolling makes more sense. I've still got it disabled, but I'm considering reenabling it - the more you use the multitouch gestures, the weirder it feels to not use inverter scrolling. Dunno if I'm the only one who's starting to feel that...

[lunarworks]

And it makes more sense in Mail, iPhoto, iMovie, Preview etc? - I'm not a fan of this fullscreen stuff. I like having multiple windows that is why I have large screens so I can move things around and be more productive. Having an App taking up 100% of my screen for me is bad and detrimental to my productivity. Nice that Apple has added it I guess but for me Fullscreen is a feature I will never have any use for.

Full-screen can come in handy for iPhoto or Photoshop (which we'll see feature support for in CS8), when you need to eliminate distractions and dedicate as much space as possible to your image.

But I still won't use full-screen too much, I rarely do in Windows either. (Most Windows users set EVERYTHING to full-screen, which makes many websites look absolutely ridiculous on big monitors.)