Mac OS X Lion Discussion

[Rudy]

They should kill Software Update and just deliver them all for free with no account needed through the Mac App Store while we'e at it...

They should definately merge Software Update with the AppStore. Having some kind of update mechanism that doesn't require an account for updates to the OS would be required like you said

[PyX]

Exactly. One universal way across the Mac to do the updates. :)

Does anyone know where to find Lion Server? I activated the server via Sharing, but have no idea where's all the configuration behind this thing. Seems to be hidden too well, or I'm blind as always. If it' the former, they will have to fix it in the final if they want people to actually see this feature...

[Rudy]

Exactly. One universal way across the Mac to do the updates. :)

Does anyone know where to find Lion Server? I activated the server via Sharing, but have no idea where's all the configuration behind this thing. Seems to be hidden too well, or I'm blind as always. If it' the former, they will have to fix it in the final if they want people to actually see this feature...

I didn't install it but I would guess either in System Preferences or the Utilities folder in Applications

[PyX]

I didn't install it but I would guess either in System Preferences or the Utilities folder in Applications

Oh. It's an optional installation...

I would have searched for it all day long :laugh:

[Rudy]

Oh. It's an optional installation...

I would have searched for it all day long :laugh:

:rofl:

[CPressland]

Well, Samba is definitely faster. But I'm seeing a LOT of Graphics Corruption on both my MacBook Pro (Nvidia) and MacBook (Intel). System's both also running a lot hotter too. Have installed on my iMac via LogMeIn so will see how thats running when I get home

[Rudy]

Well, Samba is definitely faster. But I'm seeing a LOT of Graphics Corruption on both my MacBook Pro (Nvidia) and MacBook (Intel). System's both also running a lot hotter too. Have installed on my iMac via LogMeIn so will see how thats running when I get home

The only issue I ran in was in LaunchPad. It decided to put Firefox in the second page so i moved it to the first and put it where it should be (alphabetical order). For some reason when I went back to it, it was on top of the first icon :blink: After moving it a few more times I stuck properly

[celticpride678]

Well, Samba is definitely faster. But I'm seeing a LOT of Graphics Corruption on both my MacBook Pro (Nvidia) and MacBook (Intel). System's both also running a lot hotter too. Have installed on my iMac via LogMeIn so will see how thats running when I get home

It's running hot likely because Spotlight is still indexing. My system isn't running any hotter with Lion than it did with Snow Leopard.

[CPressland]

It's running hot likely because Spotlight is still indexing. My system isn't running any hotter with Lion than it did with Snow Leopard.

Nope, Running SSDs in both, Indexing only took about 15 minutes, no services gobbling up CPU usage. It's Graphics Related. It won't run off the Intel Graphics on the MacBook Pro. I'll only use the Nvidia Graphics.

[Rudy]

Nope, Running SSDs in both, Indexing only took about 15 minutes, no services gobbling up CPU usage. It's Graphics Related. It won't run off the Intel Graphics on the MacBook Pro. I'll only use the Nvidia Graphics.

You should probably file a bug report

[kevpan815]

That's funny because the battery icon is from iOS. ;)

Anyway, Mac OS X Lion leaked onto the internet. That didn't take too long. :laugh:

And, Whomever Leaked It Is Going 2 Find That They Are Without An Apple Developer Account, As The Download Is Digitally Signed With Your Apple Developer ID!

[Rudy]

And, Whomever Leaked It Is Going 2 Find That They Are Without An Apple Developer Account, As The Download Is Digitally Signed With Your Apple Developer ID!

I just hope the leaker create a throw away account and didn't use an account that was making money on the AppStore lol

[CPressland]

And, Whomever Leaked It Is Going 2 Find That They Are Without An Apple Developer Account, As The Download Is Digitally Signed With Your Apple Developer ID!

If they hacked the DRM out of it, then they can hack the Developer ID out of it.

Also, please stop using Caps on every word in every post, it makes it surprisingly hard to read.

[Guest]

Could someone please post the wallpaper used in the 'Versions' feature? Thanks.

[Rudy]

Looks like they added TRIM support for their own SSDs http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/02/25/apple_adds_ssd_trim_support_to_mac_os_x_10_7_lion_beta.html

[Xtreme $niper]

Well it seams to like eating Video Memory, the system runs really well until this is full, then it starts lagging.

I use iStat Pro and it doesn't show me which GPU is active or how much memory it is currently using... What tool are you using? Is that iStat Menus?

EDIT: I just found this: http://news.softpedia.com/news/iStat-Menus-3-16-Adds-Extra-Dropdowns-for-GPU-CPU-Processes-184806.shtml I guess that answers my question then... I just wonder why they split the development for iStat Menus and Pro... It's the same parent company. Sounds sketchy to me.

[+Frank B. Subscriber²]

I use iStat Pro and it doesn't show me which GPU is active or how much memory it is currently using... What tool are you using? Is that iStat Menus?

It's iStat Menu 3.x

[CPressland]

That's really crap that Apple won't support Trim on other branded SSDs. Mine is showing up as no TRIM support.

I wonder why they've taken this move? Apples SSDs are way slower than the competition.

Woop! Screenshot tool doesn't cut off bits of windows anymore! WOO!

[Elliott]

That's really crap that Apple won't support Trim on other branded SSDs. Mine is showing up as no TRIM support.

I wonder why they've taken this move? Apples SSDs are way slower than the competition.

Woop! Screenshot tool doesn't cut off bits of windows anymore! WOO!

Just because Lion doesn't support TRIM on third party SSDs yet doesn't mean it won't.

[Rudy]

That's really crap that Apple won't support Trim on other branded SSDs. Mine is showing up as no TRIM support.

I wonder why they've taken this move? Apples SSDs are way slower than the competition.

Woop! Screenshot tool doesn't cut off bits of windows anymore! WOO!

I'm guessing support for 3rd party SSDs is going to be included in the final version

[Guest]

I believe that final Lion will have trim for all SSDs, otherwise that's definitely bad

[CPressland]

I freaking hope so, I mean I appreciate it's not a major feature, I couldn't give a **** about Write speed as long as the Read Speed is fast but I'll take every advantage I can get, and SSD Basic Garbage Collection is one of those things.

[celticpride678]

A couple of other notes about Lion: MacBook's now run in 64-bit kernel (no way to change this). Safari seems a lot more stable to me (even with Flash)...anyone else?

[Vice]

I don't know about other users here but I personally use a program called gfxCardStatus on OS X to be able to switch between my MacBook Pros 9400m and 9600GT without needing to log out. This process has always been kinda flakey on Snow Leopard with mixed results and sometimes momentary freezing during the switching process. In Lion it is really smooth and a lot faster switching between cards, almost instant without any visible glitching.

Just thought I'd mention it!

[PyX]

Woop! Screenshot tool doesn't cut off bits of windows anymore! WOO!

1. It never did?!

2. They need to get rid of this System Report and include it all in the new & sexy system profiler.

Ugh, I'd like to try the bug where I zoom on the screen and I can drag windows below the top bar, but the System Preferences cannot start anymore, it's crashing all the time.

Edit : it is still possible. I warned them like 5 times already, what's their problem?

So yeah, for an alpha or beta version of the OS, it's very good and very stable, but as expected, certainly not for a main OS because there are strange bugs that can pop up everywhere.

OMG! The Speech tools now support French !!! And the accent looks like it' from Quebec (where I live) that's incredible, it means it actually detected my physical location and/or system language!