official Battlefield 3

[Dot Matrix]

Are tanks useless now? just getting smashed by choppers and jets. Don't stand a chance against them.

That's the way it was in BF2. Just gotta start planning things out better. (IE hiding in between objects).

Also, in the real world "RPGs", use shaped charges, that can pretty much destroy armour in one or two hits, so this isn't "unreal" or "fake".

[trag3dy]

Scoping with Sniper Rifles' time has been extended. Not that it really matters, but they've messed up the bullet drop.

I was almost perfect at mid to long range headshots and now I'll have to go through it all again. :angry: :angry: :angry:

Did I mention that Tanks are almost useless now. One hit RPG/SMAW, its disabled. Next thing you know, is the killcam.

Repair Tool' repair timing has been awfully, awfully nerfed :angry: :angry:

:s :s :s

I can attest to the bullet drop. It has been royally screwed, and also the bullet doesn't stay on the screen as long, so it is hard to see where it drops and hits. :angry:

I think you guys are experiencing the placebo effect. I'm fairly certain they did not change bullet drop on any guns. What they did change was spread and recoil though. The first game after the patch I went 42 and 12 using the m98b. Apart from me not having played in 2 or so weeks it felt exactly the same as it used to.

[Dot Matrix]

I think you guys are experiencing the placebo effect. I'm fairly certain they did not change bullet drop on any guns. What they did change was spread and recoil though. The first game after the patch I went 42 and 12 using the m98b. Apart from me not having played in 2 or so weeks it felt exactly the same as it used to.

Yep, a few guns had their recoil changed, P-90 off the top of my head is one of the guns I can think of. Also, a few weapons had their damages changed too.

[Jamushroom Veteran]

The sounds of impact of RPG/SMAW/whatever while in a vehicle have been changed as well. It sounds pretty awesome now. Also, don't forget about the horn that's been added to jeeps :p

[Dot Matrix]

The sounds of impact of RPG/SMAW/whatever while in a vehicle have been changed as well. It sounds pretty awesome now. Also, don't forget about the horn that's been added to jeeps :p

I freaked out over these. I thought my sound card spazed out on me.

[trag3dy]

well damn. why does our army waste so much money on special missiles/etc to blow up enemy takes, when they could just use a cheap rpg. :rolleyes:

also its amazing how many of our tanks the insurgents blew up with theirs noobtubes in iraq.</s

No, its neither relaitic nor tactical.

If we were basing the game on realism there would be no respawn. You would die and that's it. Game over.

[Dot Matrix]

well damn. why does our army waste so much money on special missiles/etc to blow up enemy takes, when they could just use a cheap rpg. :rolleyes:

also its amazing how many of our tanks the insurgents blew up with theirs noobtubes in iraq.</s

No, its neither relaitic nor tactical.

[madd-hatter]

I agree that tanks definitely drop quicker now. I don't mind how quick they fall but I wish they weren't disabled so quickly. The new mini-map is sweet.

I've mostly enjoyed the patch for the few games I've played but my biggest complaint at the moment is I haven't noticed much a change, if any, with the fall damage. I can adapt to vehicle and weapon changes as they come and go, no problem. But taking damage randomly over short jumps annoys the crap out of me.

Also, I don't snipe much but I've used the m98b a few times post patch and have enjoyed it more than I had previously.

[ToneKnee]

I agree that tanks definitely drop quicker now. I don't mind how quick they fall but I wish they weren't disabled so quickly. The new mini-map is sweet.

I've mostly enjoyed the patch for the few games I've played but my biggest complaint at the moment is I haven't noticed much a change, if any, with the fall damage. I can adapt to vehicle and weapon changes as they come and go, no problem. But taking damage randomly over short jumps annoys the crap out of me.

Also, I don't snipe much but I've used the m98b a few times post patch and have enjoyed it more than I had previously.

The fall damage was meant to be relaxed for short falls i.e. jumping out of the 2nd floor window on one of the Metro buildings but it seems like another bug has cropped up.

[rajputwarrior]

Did I mention that Tanks are almost useless now. One hit RPG/SMAW, its disabled. Next thing you know, is the killcam.

Repair Tool' repair timing has been awfully, awfully nerfed :angry: :angry:

good (Y) i hate the noobs who camp in the tanks.

[Dot Matrix]

good (Y) i hate the noobs who camp in the tanks.

Tanks were a pain in the ass before this patch. It took forever just to disable them, and the fact that the helo's rocket pods were next to useless, means people could camp in them forever. Simply get out and repair it. Now we can actually disable them in a few shots and move on with the game.

[Astra.Xtreme]

Tanks were a pain in the ass before this patch. It took forever just to disable them, and the fact that the helo's rocket pods were next to useless, means people could camp in them forever. Simply get out and repair it. Now we can actually disable them in a few shots and move on with the game.

Yep, I think this is one of the best parts of the patch. I was sick of seeing a crowd of engineers following the tanks around for the whole match.

[Crisp]

good (Y) i hate the noobs who camp in the tanks.

I hate noobs who sit behind rocks on Kharg / Caspain RGP'ing tanks.

Vehicles need to be dumbed down in this game, infanty is the way to bring in more COD kiddies.

[tagerd0g]

damn, the optical drive in my fat PS3 just went kaput so I can't even try out the new patch :(

[Jamushroom Veteran]

I freaked out over these. I thought my sound card spazed out on me.

Haha, I freaking love it. Makes it more fun to be shot by an RPG and whatnot, haha XD

Though I don't know if it's just me or if this has been like this forever, but TV Missiles are 1 hit wonders now :s The tanks I've been driving have been destroyed with 1 TV missile each several times today :s

[Order_66]

The only thing good about this patch is the new minimap, the game just isn't fun anymore but I pretty much expected this after the fiasco with BF2 and the nerfing of the weapons in that game, I figured it was only a matter of time before this game would be ruined.

Developers ruining their games seems to be a trend anymore starting way back (at least for me) in 2004 when Epic torn UT2004 up and made it a useless newb-fest, it seems most games are balanced really good at release, unless there is something glaring and obvious they should be left alone and concentrate on bug fixes and enhancements, if they spent all their effort on fixing bugs then BF3 would continue to be an epic game for years to come, instead it's a beaten down old has-been anymore after this latest patch.

[rajputwarrior]

I hate noobs who sit behind rocks on Kharg / Caspain RGP'ing tanks.

Vehicles need to be dumbed down in this game, infanty is the way to bring in more COD kiddies.

bolded i agree with, cause i am one.

the rest, i don't blame people for camping out with an RPG railing tanks. What else are you suppose to do? It used to take 3-4 hits just to disable them, meanwhile tank guys sees you and blasts you away.

[Jamushroom Veteran]

@Crisps: Why dumb down vehicles when that's what Battlefield is all about and sets it apart from other first person shooters? :s

[Dot Matrix]

Though I don't know if it's just me or if this has been like this forever, but TV Missiles are 1 hit wonders now :s

Same in BF2.

[Jamushroom Veteran]

^Meh, I somewhat dislike it though :/ Would've been nice if we where at least able to fix the tank or at least use smoke against them.

Also, did anyone read my post about playing on the NiF server? Here's the IP: 173.199.75.139:25200. I won't be spamming this all the time. Just thought I'd share it with you guys. There's also anti cheat/hack/whatnot in place just so you know :)

[Dot Matrix]

^Meh, I somewhat dislike it though :/ Would've been nice if we where at least able to fix the tank or at least use smoke against them.

Also, did anyone read my post about playing on the NiF server? Here's the IP: 173.199.75.139:25200. I won't be spamming this all the time. Just thought I'd share it with you guys. There's also anti cheat/hack/whatnot in place just so you know :)

Smoke would be useless since TV guided missiles are manually guided.

[Jamushroom Veteran]

^True that. Though at least some defence would be nice :p

[Crisp]

@Crisps: Why dumb down vehicles when that's what Battlefield is all about and sets it apart from other first person shooters? :s

Was being sarcastic :p

It's true though, DICE gave us Metro as the beta demo map, to draw in the COD kids. Now they've dumbed down vehicles because COD kids cry they can't wipe out a tank while on foot.

Battlefield is dead, the future is tiny shoe box maps so people can rank up and get excited everytime something new flashes up on the screen.

BF2 / 2142 are the last of any true BF game. The franchise is dead.

[Miuku.]

If you think that's bad, you should see Tribes Ascend.

CoD kids got the game nerfed to what equals an smg-rifle-splash rapefest. Skill level dropped from top to bottom in one swift stroke.

[trag3dy]

I think this is relevant to the discussion, lol:

The point is that if you are getting rofl stomped each game you're going to feel like anything you are using is under powered and anything any one on the other team is over powered.

I think tanks, jets, and helis are all fine now. There were no changes to bullet drop, only spread and recoil were changed, etc. I'm not saying I really care for any of the changes, but that's beside the point. The only thing I really would complain about is the suppression increase, which seems to be a "why the hell not, lets do it" kind of change because it's not something anyone ever complained about or thought needed changing.