Meet Firefox 5.0

[ViperAFK]

electrolysis is still in the planning stages. No way it makes firefox 5, probably won't make 6 either.

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

Yeah, it won't make 6, at the very earliest they're looking at 7 or 8 to get the first implementation.

And 64bit still isn't supported, since there's still bugs holding it up (One missing feature was just implemented a couple of days ago, but it's just a base for other features)

[+Zlip792 MVC]

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/mozilla-firefox-developer-beta-aurora-browser,news-10961.html

I agree Mozilla need dedicated blog, which is not very technical and tell us about every update in Aurora and Nightly builds. Mozilla should also try to simplify all plans for users and Make FF 5 aurora to FF 4.5

[tinaun]

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=23

[flexkeyboard]

Looking better by the days. That's why I still use 3.6 and skip ff4 like I did with vista :)

[+Zlip792 MVC]

Is Mozilla working on Restart less addon stuff?

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613294

[ViperAFK]

Looking better by the days. That's why I still use 3.6 and skip ff4 like I did with vista :)

Firefox 4 is miles ahead of firefox 3.6. Why one earth would you skip it?

Is Mozilla working on Restart less addon stuff?

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613294

Some addons already don't require a restart. I can't think of any specific examples right now though.

[flexkeyboard]

Firefox 4 is miles ahead of firefox 3.6. Why one earth would you skip it?

Beside the lame HA implementation compare to IE9's, FF4 TM+JM doesn't make FF4 feel any faster than FF3.6 even if it perform better in benchmark. Beside, some of the important addons I use still work better in 3.6 than it is in 4.0. I'll wait for 4.0.1, but I guess 5.0 is likely the next update as they have copied Chrome's numbering scheme.

[SoapyHamHocks Member]

Some addons already don't require a restart. I can't think of any specific examples right now though.

Quite a few https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/tag/restartless

[+Frank B. Subscriber²]

Beside the lame HA implementation compare to IE9's, FF4 TM+JM doesn't make FF4 feel any faster than FF3.6 even if it perform better in benchmark. Beside, some of the important addons I use still work better in 3.6 than it is in 4.0. I'll wait for 4.0.1, but I guess 5.0 is likely the next update as they have copied Chrome's numbering scheme.

Firefox 4.0.1 is due very soon actually. IMHO there is no reason to skip 4.0, as it is a solid browser release and giving 3.6 a run for its money.

[Udedenkz]

Firefox 4.0.1 is due very soon actually. IMHO there is no reason to skip 4.0, as it is a solid browser release and giving 3.6 a run for its money.

Major advantages of FF3.6 over FF4.0 include better scrolling performance and better GIF performance.

[alisalem]

Major advantages of FF3.6 over FF4.0 include better scrolling performance and better GIF performance.

That's because your computers are kind of slow. Have you tried disabling HW acceleration?

[Udedenkz]

That's because your computers are kind of slow. Have you tried disabling HW acceleration?

I don't have slow computers, all of my computers can run Oblivion, but I digress,

Yes.

Additionally I tried IE9 with HW enabled and it is blazing fast.

Additionally I tried Chrome and it is blazing fast.

Additionally I tried Opera and it is blazing fast.

[grayscale]

I don't have slow computers, all of my computers can run Oblivion, but I digress,

Yes.

Additionally I tried IE9 with HW enabled and it is blazing fast.

Additionally I tried Chrome and it is blazing fast.

Additionally I tried Opera and it is blazing fast.

Yep, lots-a-Gifs->"opens chromium" for me too but I rarely visit websites filled with gifs so no problems here. Anyway, any links where Fx crawls (one that isn't just filled with gifs for the purpose of filling it with gifs)?

[Frylock86]

You should be upgrading browsers. Don't sit on old versions. Bad security practice.

[grayscale]

I'm no longer using 3.x but they still provide security updates, right? Or is it the last?

[articuno1au]

Yeah, 4.x is the next security patch :)

[Frylock86]

Nothing like getting pwnd by a hole that has been fixed with the next version. ;)

[ViperAFK]

Major advantages of FF3.6 over FF4.0 include better scrolling performance and better GIF performance.

That's absurd! Firefox 4 has much better smooth scrolling, especially on pages with fixed images as the background which were notoriously laggy on firefox 3. The inclusion of layers makes scrolling much more efficient and firefox 4 doesn't have to constantly redraw the page like firefox 3. Sounds like a bug on your machine if its slower. Scrolling has noticeably smoother on my machines, especially on my lowest end one (laptop, 2ghz core2duo, hd2600)

http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/roc/archives/2010/07/retained_layers.html

[Udedenkz]

That's absurd! Firefox 4 has much better smooth scrolling, especially on pages with fixed images as the background which were notoriously laggy on firefox 3. The inclusion of layers makes scrolling much more efficient and firefox 4 doesn't have to constantly redraw the page like firefox 3. Sounds like a bug on your machine if its slower. Scrolling has noticeably smoother on my machines, especially on my lowest end one (laptop, 2ghz core2duo, hd2600)

http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/roc/archives/2010/07/retained_layers.html

On all *three* of my machines.

Also both of these are confirmed bugs.

Also the scrolling performance regression happened after retained layers.

Retained layers themselves increased performance.

I now use Yet Another Smooth Scrolling because it makes keyboard scrolling faster which visually decreases noticeable stuttering.

[trag3dy]

On all *three* of my machines.

Also both of these are confirmed bugs.

Also the scrolling performance regression happened after retained layers.

Retained layers themselves increased performance.

I now use Yet Another Smooth Scrolling because it makes keyboard scrolling faster which visually decreases noticeable stuttering.

I used to use YASS extension, but it was causing my scroll stuttering problem. Then I switched to:

http://smoothwheel.mozdev.org/

And it's 100% better in every way, for me at least. Solved all the problems I had with scroll stutter.

[Kyang]

For these scrolling extensions, specifically the keyboard up/down scroll, is there a way to disable that slight delay that occurs before the page really starts scrolling? I don't like having to press and hold the up/down button for a second before the scrolling starts. I'd rather it happen as soon as I press it.

[Udedenkz]

Stutter is not YASS related for me. I installed YASS to try to hide it.

Additionally, unlike Chrome, Firefox likes to keep the cursor interacting with the web page elements when scrolling. IE: Scroll over (cursor must be aligned so it would find itself over Services) Services and it will try to render the opened down Services menu, which laggs scrolling.

For these scrolling extensions, specifically the keyboard up/down scroll, is there a way to disable that slight delay that occurs before the page really starts scrolling? I don't like having to press and hold the up/down button for a second before the scrolling starts. I'd rather it happen as soon as I press it.

Just tried smoothwheel and that delay is not good, same delay on 6.0 and 5.0...

I like the way Chrome does it. Good step size, instant response, no acceleration, and no smoothing.

...For arrow key scrolling, mouse wheel scrolling is OK.

[Poom]

Popup dialogues are now specific to the tab and no longer prevents you to switch to another tab or close the tab! That's pretty awesome, especially with all those spam popups that prevent you from leaving.

[trag3dy]

Stutter is not YASS related for me. I installed YASS to try to hide it.

Additionally, unlike Chrome, Firefox likes to keep the cursor interacting with the web page elements when scrolling. IE: Scroll over (cursor must be aligned so it would find itself over Services) Services and it will try to render the opened down Services menu, which laggs scrolling.

Just tried smoothwheel and that delay is not good, same delay on 6.0 and 5.0...

I like the way Chrome does it. Good step size, instant response, no acceleration, and no smoothing.

...For arrow key scrolling, mouse wheel scrolling is OK.

That's strange then, I don't have any sort of delay when I start scrolling.