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Windows 8 Start button isn't coming back, but there will be a tutorial


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#46 firey

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 18:34

View PostDot Matrix, on 02 April 2012 - 18:01, said:

Whatever you want, without getting in the way.

Give Metro time to mature and develop, and you'll forget all about Win32. You just have to be open to the possibilities a metro-like UI brings to the PC.

I'm keeping an open mind, but to me a single bar with all the notifications I need visible at all times basically. Tiles take up the full screen, and in some cases more than the screen shows. I'm still not sure where the benefit is. I can get all of the things a tile shows in a small gadget or notification bar. I just am not seeing it.


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Posted 02 April 2012 - 18:38

View Postahhell, on 02 April 2012 - 18:11, said:

It's amazing how many people can't seem to grasp the concept that Win8 is currently a BETA OS.

It is the concept of Windows Phone applied to Desktop which automatically brings limitation to Desktop itself since Windows Phone is limited compared to PC but Metro suits it fine.

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 18:43

View Postahhell, on 02 April 2012 - 18:11, said:

It's amazing how many people can't seem to grasp the concept that Win8 is currently a BETA OS.

Do you honestly expect it to change much before it RTM's in a few months time?

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 18:56

View Postfirey, on 02 April 2012 - 18:34, said:

I'm keeping an open mind, but to me a single bar with all the notifications I need visible at all times basically. Tiles take up the full screen, and in some cases more than the screen shows. I'm still not sure where the benefit is. I can get all of the things a tile shows in a small gadget or notification bar. I just am not seeing it.

Basically condenses "at a glance" info in one spot, and allows for more than 1 notification to be showing at a time.

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 18:59

View Posttechguy77, on 02 April 2012 - 18:05, said:

True but it is not ready yet. Microsoft should have waited for another or two Windows releases.
things wouldn't have been much different, there's only so much microsoft can do in regards to releasing their own apps

it all comes down to, what will 3rd party developers do with metro when it RTMs

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 19:00

View PostInsaneNutter, on 02 April 2012 - 18:43, said:


Do you honestly expect it to change much before it RTM's in a few months time?

It could do seeing as a lot of changes to the UI are coming in RC, just look at Explorer.

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 19:04

at this point in development microsoft is done with functionality/features and are now just cleaning up the UI

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 19:05

View Posttechguy77, on 02 April 2012 - 18:05, said:

True but it is not ready yet. Microsoft should have waited for another or two Windows releases.

How is it not ready yet ? it works great, is a full replacement for the old start menu and then some.

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 19:06

with windows odd numbers are generally better lol.

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 19:08

View PostDot Matrix, on 02 April 2012 - 18:56, said:

Basically condenses "at a glance" info in one spot, and allows for more than 1 notification to be showing at a time.

Doesn't that do what the notifcation bar does? Except instead of a bunch of icons.. it's one bar?

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 19:12

View PostCallum, on 01 April 2012 - 13:34, said:

Yes, the idea of instructions is an awful one. Everyone should just be expected to know how things work, even if they've never used anything like it before (Y)

/s
Wow, way to miss the point. (Y)

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 20:02

View Posttheyarecomingforyou, on 02 April 2012 - 17:06, said:

Huh? Most operating systems have "invisible menus" in the form of right-clicking on the desktop and Windows 7 also had the Aero Peak functionality in the bottom-right corner of the screen, in addition to Aero Snap. Once you get used to the changes they really aren't an issue, though some of the functionality could - and likely will - be improved. Including a tutorial is a positive thing, not a negative thing. It just seems that you can't please the critics.

There's a huge difference between a context menu and a main OS menu used to open programs/change settings and even close a program.

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 20:03

View PostDot Matrix, on 02 April 2012 - 18:08, said:

And let the PC market continue to suffer?

Awesome Reaper logic.

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 20:09

View PostJaredFrost, on 02 April 2012 - 20:02, said:

There's a huge difference between a context menu and a main OS menu used to open programs/change settings and even close a program.
is there? have you heard of "BlackBox"? it's main menu is the context menu on the desktop and other places

and it's not the only UI that works this way

(blackbox is still pretty popular now a days)
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Posted 02 April 2012 - 20:21

View PostBrando212, on 02 April 2012 - 20:09, said:

is there? have you heard of "BlackBox"? it's main menu is the context menu on the desktop and other places
and it's not the only UI that works this way
(blackbox is still pretty popular now a days)

I guess that depends on how you define popular, if you use the whole PC market, blackbox is probably less -popular- than Windows ME.
Ignoring that, those people CHOSE to use BlackBox, which is likely fully customizable, they could choose not to use it if they wanted

I want the same thing for Metro in Windows 8, choice.