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[PGHammer]

Stoffel, on 18 June 2012 - 20:01, said:

That's a lie!
I use the Metro Messaging app all the time, and i'm sure most of my friends are not on Win8. Yet, we can communicate just fine through all the Metro apps

The Metro Mail app supports GMail/Google Mail - what it *doesn't* support is POP3. While GMail/Google Mail also supports POP3, the default is IMAP4 (which works just fine in Outlook and the Windows non-Metro Live Mail, as is also the case in Outlook 2007 and 2010). Messaging is, in fact, Windows Live Messenger WinRT-style (fully cross-compatible with the existing WLM - like WLM, it also supports cross-communication with Yahoo Messenger and even Facebook Chat/Messenger - which also works on Windows 8).

[Omen1393]

PGHammer, on 19 June 2012 - 07:28, said:

The Metro Mail app supports GMail/Google Mail - what it *doesn't* support is POP3.

And POP3 and IMAP support has been confirmed as one of the features coming in the final release.

[Andrea Borman]

PGHammer, on 19 June 2012 - 07:28, said:

The Metro Mail app supports GMail/Google Mail - what it *doesn't* support is POP3. While GMail/Google Mail also supports POP3, the default is IMAP4 (which works just fine in Outlook and the Windows non-Metro Live Mail, as is also the case in Outlook 2007 and 2010). Messaging is, in fact, Windows Live Messenger WinRT-style (fully cross-compatible with the existing WLM - like WLM, it also supports cross-communication with Yahoo Messenger and even Facebook Chat/Messenger - which also works on Windows 8).

Well on my Windows Mail(from Windows Vista) on Windows 8 I have one of my Gmail accounts and my Hotmail account set to pop not IMAP. And it works on Windows 8,on Windows Mail that is and also on Windows Live Mail which I also have.

And note,I have got Windows Live Essentials 2009 the Windows XP, version not Windows Live Essentials 2011, on both Windows 8 and Windows 7 and also on Windows Vista.

I read that Outlook Express is bundled with Internet Explorer 6 on Windows XP,and IE5 on Windows2000,Windows 98, and earlier versions of Windows. And is part of Internet Explorer,even if you upgrade to IE7 or IE8.

That is why Outlook Express won't work on anything but Windows XP. And also if you tried to install Outlook Express 4 from Windows 98 on Windows 2000 or Windows XP,that won't work either.

But Windows Mail is not bundled or part of Internet Explorer like outlook Express is. Which is probably why it works on Windows 7 and Windows 8.

But another change I have noticed on Windows 8 RP is that it is now much easier to access the Metro start menu. If you close Classic Shell,you can now just click the left hand hot corner,where the start button should be and you get the Metro start screen.

In Windows 8 CP you had to swipe and click with your mouse, but on RP you just click. Andrea Borman.

[Anthonyd]

PGHammer, on 19 June 2012 - 07:28, said:

The Metro Mail app supports GMail/Google Mail - what it *doesn't* support is POP3. While GMail/Google Mail also supports POP3, the default is IMAP4 (which works just fine in Outlook and the Windows non-Metro Live Mail, as is also the case in Outlook 2007 and 2010). Messaging is, in fact, Windows Live Messenger WinRT-style (fully cross-compatible with the existing WLM - like WLM, it also supports cross-communication with Yahoo Messenger and even Facebook Chat/Messenger - which also works on Windows 8).

I think you're wrong, Mail apps supports EAS, not POP/IMAP (yet).

Messaging apps supports XMPP, which allows the cross-communication platform.

[+Evolution]

Is anyone having an issue where windows 8 won't shutdown? As in I click shutdown or type shutdown -s -t 00 and nothing will happen.

[+Brando212]

AndreaBorman, on 19 June 2012 - 08:52, said:

But another change I have noticed on Windows 8 RP is that it is now much easier to access the Metro start menu. If you close Classic Shell,you can now just click the left hand hot corner,where the start button should be and you get the Metro start screen.

In Windows 8 CP you had to swipe and click with your mouse, but on RP you just click. Andrea Borman.

no, you could click in the bottom left corner in the CP as well

[Andrea Borman]

Brando212, on 20 June 2012 - 14:45, said:

no, you could click in the bottom left corner in the CP as well

Yes you could. But the Metro start button or hot corner only stayed visible for a few seconds in Windows 8 CP.So you had to be quick,which is difficult if you are using a computer or laptop with a mouse. But in Windows 8 RP it is now much easier to get to the Metro start menu. And you can still do this without closing Classic Shell in Windows 8 RP. Andrea Borman.

[BajiRav]

AndreaBorman, on 20 June 2012 - 14:53, said:

Yes you could. But the Metro start button or hot corner only stayed visible for a few seconds in Windows 8 CP.So you had to be quick,which is difficult if you are using a computer or laptop with a mouse. But in Windows 8 RP it is now much easier to get to the Metro start menu. And you can still do this without closing Classic Shell in Windows 8 RP. Andrea Borman.

No. You are wrong. You could just click in the corner and not worry about the thumbnail disappearing.

[PGHammer]

Anthonyd, on 19 June 2012 - 10:00, said:

I think you're wrong, Mail apps supports EAS, not POP/IMAP (yet).

Messaging apps supports XMPP, which allows the cross-communication platform.

I use GMail with the Mail app (and it is, in fact, the only account I use with Mail), the other supported account types are Exchange (as you stated) and Hotmail. (Yes - GMail is specifically listed; between Hotmail and Exchange in Add Accounts.)

[Anthonyd]

PGHammer, on 20 June 2012 - 20:28, said:

I use GMail with the Mail app (and it is, in fact, the only account I use with Mail), the other supported account types are Exchange (as you stated) and Hotmail. (Yes - GMail is specifically listed; between Hotmail and Exchange in Add Accounts.)

EAS is a protocol supported by Gmail. That's how they push calendar & contacts inside Android phones.

[Mikeffer]

BajiRav, on 20 June 2012 - 15:03, said:

No. You are wrong. You could just click in the corner and not worry about the thumbnail disappearing.

Totally correct. I'm posting from the CP that's still on an older machine of mine and that is indeed the behaviour.

Correct me if i'm wrong Andrea but you didn't do a clean install of the CP but done an upgrade? This could have borked things somewhat.

[TheLegendOfMart]

I've been running release preview for a week now to try and get to grips with it, it has been less painful than I thought it was going to be but I still can't see myself running it longterm, the Metro stuff is just pointless for me and just slows down my personal productivity and how I use the OS.

Looks like ill be stuck with Windows 7 forever because Windows 9 will probably have the same Metro stuff in it

[anidais]

TheLegendOfMart, on 21 June 2012 - 17:59, said:

I've been running release preview for a week now to try and get to grips with it, it has been less painful than I thought it was going to be but I still can't see myself running it longterm, the Metro stuff is just pointless for me and just slows down my personal productivity and how I use the OS.

Looks like ill be stuck with Windows 7 forever because Windows 9 will probably have the same Metro stuff in it

In what ways does Windows 8 affect your productivity? The desktop is still there, and with improvements. You don't even need to use the new start screen for most of your time (only for searching and opening programs). If there was no desktop at all then I would understand.

[TheLegendOfMart]

It just doesn't make any sense to me, I have unpinned all the Metro apps and changed the default programs everything opens with, I don't enjoy having to go to start screen then right clicking, going all the way down to all apps, then looking through the massive list just to find the apps I want to pin.

Yes I realise I could just start typing to find an app.

The charms bar is annoying me as well if I have programs full screen and i go up to the top corner the charms bar keeps activating.

It just seems so convoluted, I'm not saying that Metro is slow for everyone it just doesnt make sense to me how I use MY pc.

[xendrome]

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