Windows 8 Release Preview Discussion

[Seketh]

So, four steps instead of one ?

1 - drag mouse cursor into the corner

2 - click the settings button

3 - click the volume button

4 - adjust volume slider

vs.

1 - drag volume slider to the right or left

:)

Actually, to be fair:

1 - drag mouse cursor into the corner

2 - click the settings button

3 - click the volume button

4 - adjust volume slider

vs.

1 - drag mouse to lower right corner

2 - click the volume button

3 - adjust volume slider

So, it's one actually one more step instead of three more steps. Just being objective.

[HawkMan]

Hah nice rumor, ignore it.

Anyone know how to get a on screen keyboard up in either remote desktop app on a tablet?

No, the desktop isn't loaded until you launch the desktop or a desktop app. you won't notice however as it has no delay in launching.

[rfirth]

...

You assume that you actually have the music app open. More likely than not, you're not staring at the music app - you're doing something else useful. Otherwise, you first have to re-open the music app and then change the volume.

Besides, if you're using a desktop computer or laptop, you'd do better to just use Windows Media Player instead of the Music app anyway. You have two different music players to choose from. Choose the one that's appropriate for your needs, or download another :p

Most keyboards have shortcuts to adjust volume. It's much easier to just use that.

[George P Global Moderator]

http://www.winsupers...yle-apps-143401

So if I am reading this correctly, there are (2) separate control panel sections for printers.. one for regular apps and one for metro apps...

This just doesn't make any sense to me... I don't see the need for it having to be in 2 locations.. honestly?,,,,

They're not really separate, any printers installed show up in both, and besides, if you're in a tablet and using touch you actually expect people to use the desktop printer window or print manager? Besides all that article showed me at the start is that you can still add and manage printers through the desktop like you do on Win7, it's yet another choice for users.

[bandit_liberty_rumble]

Actually, to be fair:

1 - drag mouse cursor into the corner

2 - click the settings button

3 - click the volume button

4 - adjust volume slider

vs.

1 - drag mouse to lower right corner

2 - click the volume button

3 - adjust volume slider

So, it's one actually one more step instead of three more steps. Just being objective.

No. I was comparing it to an app like WMP:

You assume that you actually have the music app open. More likely than not, you're not staring at the music app - you're doing something else useful. Otherwise, you first have to re-open the music app and then change the volume.

Fair enough. Wouldn't hurt to put a volume control into the app though. It's not like the controls don't already take up the whole screen. I personally don't actually mind it the way it is, but I can understand if someone else does.

Besides, if you're using a desktop computer or laptop, you'd do better to just use Windows Media Player instead of the Music app anyway. You have two different music players to choose from. Choose the one that's appropriate for your needs, or download another :p

Yes indeed. It's the first thing you have to do on Win8. Change all the default Metro app associations (for music, video, pictures etc.)

Most keyboards have shortcuts to adjust volume. It's much easier to just use that.

Yes, it is.

[Zain Adeel]

ok so I am fed up..!! ive had it.

No windows 8 for me if the quality of apps is going to remain just as it is In the Release Preview.

Its such a shame. They had months to develop and improve on these apps from CP to RP..

MY CALENDAR IS STUCK at 7th june.. WTF?

My mail app after a proper restart will again show 2 new mails when I HAVE CHECKED THEM already..

In short. the live tiles are a mess. They don't work at all like they should. Full of bugs and slow or don't update at all in case of the calendar and its just useless.

And yes to the above. The first thing I do is change the app associations to back to the legacy apps because they function. The video app the music app... they are all so bad. I just hope MS hasn't really worked on any app yet and have just been refining the underlying engine for RP.

If the apps remain like they are. No WIN8 for me. No WIN8 tablet.. because I don't want this...

I thought the Metro area was done.

I release most of the apps still say app preview... But the store don't say that and it is the most unstable of them all.

The only app that gives me the experience i get from my WP7 device in terms of stability and good usability is the IE10 Immersive.

IE10 is a seriously good app. The design and function. The performance and stability. Its top notch! If they cant bring the other apps to that level Windows 8 is going to fail hard.

[Stoffel]

I'm ok with the mail app, but it has some funny stuff still going on.

Sometimes it won't let me send an email with an attachment on it. I have to reboot the computer and then all of a sudden the mail will be sent.

It also takes a very long time to collect mail from my ISP through my @live.com account, any idea why that is?

The music and video apps are a joke, first of all I would like to be directed to my music collection on start up and not to the store.

The music app can't deal very well with large music collections, I have over a 100GB of music and it constantly chokes on it, then again the Zune app had the same problem

Anybody have a suggestion for a nice looking simple media player that works nicely with your Libraries?

[Dashel]

I agree Zain, its hard to be optimistic when most of the current apps are so terrible. Some are quite good however, just none of the productive ones. The more content focused apps like Travel or Sports are great.

Which is funny cause the apps that are most borked are the ones MS has been doing right on the desktop for ages.

I haven't found anything better, large library or not, than Zune. I'm not sure what is causing your choke.

AIMP is my second love

[Detection]

Can someone try this for me.

Open Snipping Tool, Snip a section of something white(ish) like this page > save the snip > open it in Windows Photo Viewer

Does it open with a strong yellow tint to it ? (Infact Windows Photo Viewer itself seems to be yellowish too)

[Dot Matrix]

Can someone try this for me.

Open Snipping Tool, Snip a section of something white(ish) like this page > save the snip > open it in Windows Photo Viewer

Does it open with a strong yellow tint to it ? (Infact Windows Photo Viewer itself seems to be yellowish too)

I don't have Photo Viewer on Windows 8. Just the Photos Metro app, and Live Photo Gallery.

[Detection]

I don't have Photo Viewer on Windows 8. Just the Photos Metro app, and Live Photo Gallery.

Strange, you should have but seems you can only open it with the "Open With" right click menu, it doesn't seem to appear in the Start screen search

[zhangm Supervisor]

Can someone try this for me.

Open Snipping Tool, Snip a section of something white(ish) like this page > save the snip > open it in Windows Photo Viewer

Does it open with a strong yellow tint to it ? (Infact Windows Photo Viewer itself seems to be yellowish too)

Open up color management and check whether your display is using a custom profile. Deleting/resetting to default should fix the issue.

[Detection]

Open up color management and check whether your display is using a custom profile. Deleting/resetting to default should fix the issue.

Everything else is the right colour and I haven't added any colour profiles, but it does say the name of my LCD in the colour profile

EDIT - yea weird, I chose sRGB instead and it cured it... cheers

[Jygoro]

Opening pictures and links in Tweetro app is a pleasure. This is the first Metro app that is truly useful in a desktop PC.

[George P Global Moderator]

Considering that RTM isn't for another few months I'm sure the built in apps will get there, by then. As far as the metro music and video player apps go, it's pretty much a fact that those are going to become xbox music and xbox video apps by RTM and not just basic players.

[Zain Adeel]

for all the people with the tint problem Go to control panel search for color management and tick the box that says use my settings or something and then delete the color profile currently in use and leave it blank.. that should fix it.

[Zlain]

Is the Mail application working for everyone? I click it, and it just goes white?

[BajiRav]

Considering that RTM isn't for another few months I'm sure the built in apps will get there, by then. As far as the metro music and video player apps go, it's pretty much a fact that those are going to become xbox music and xbox video apps by RTM and not just basic players.

The only problem with that is I have to go through video store first to play my own videos or music, which is completely and utterly stupid. The metro pictures app is also similarly useless as it won't go back/forth for the photos in same folder. If I double click a photo in win-explorer, it opens with that horrible ugly splash screen every-****ing-single-time!

I love metro UIs but the current apps are beyond useless.

[~Johnny]

Considering that RTM isn't for another few months I'm sure the built in apps will get there, by then. As far as the metro music and video player apps go, it's pretty much a fact that those are going to become xbox music and xbox video apps by RTM and not just basic players.

They already are Xbox Music / Video aren't they? They already have this stores integrated, search features, related actors / artists / directors, etc.

Strange, you should have but seems you can only open it with the "Open With" right click menu, it doesn't seem to appear in the Start screen search

You've not been able to open Photo Viewer from search since it got ripped out of Vista when it was Windows Photo Gallery, and replaced with the downloadable Windows Live Photo Gallery in 7. At that point, they literally only left in the photo viewing shell in 7 (based off Microsoft Office Picture Manager no less) - the UI was never even properly completed (hover over the menu buttons at the top, those have been unfinished since 7). But everyone should have it, it's "part of Windows" now, if you click the arrow next to "open" on the Ribbon it should be listed there somewhere.

[George P Global Moderator]

From what I understand there's more features for xbox music that are coming which the apps don't have yet, dunno about video though.

[Dashel]

Any word yet about the fate of Zune app then? That terrifies me.

[pack34]

Any word yet about the fate of Zune app then? That terrifies me.

Zune is being depreciated and replaced by XBox music. The music app will get all of the smart DJ abilities that zune currently has. There is no word on playlist or podcast management yet and no word on if anything changes on the desktop side.

[Detection]

I hate Zune, PITA to do almost anything other than a full sync

[HawkMan]

I hate Zune, PITA to do almost anything other than a full sync

huh.. not had any such problems

[Detection]

huh.. not had any such problems

Just seems an over complicated setup to do simple things, I edited my registry to enable mass storage instead, much easier