sundayx Veteran Posted June 28, 2009 Veteran Share Posted June 28, 2009 I think there needs to be an announcement about what happened, at least so that members like me will know if there are changes to the site and community that I need to worry about, maybe tell us what's changed, let us know how we can help, just a thought. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/790266-staff-re-shuffle/page/3/#findComment-591201196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Wow that's quiet some exodus. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/790266-staff-re-shuffle/page/3/#findComment-591201198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Symons Veteran Posted June 28, 2009 Veteran Share Posted June 28, 2009 ..I'm still here <3 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/790266-staff-re-shuffle/page/3/#findComment-591201202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlishFun Veteran Posted June 28, 2009 Veteran Share Posted June 28, 2009 ..I'm still here <3 :heart: We know Sam... :wub: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/790266-staff-re-shuffle/page/3/#findComment-591201208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomwarren Veteran Posted June 28, 2009 Author Veteran Share Posted June 28, 2009 I think there needs to be an announcement about what happened, at least so that members like me will know if there are changes to the site and community that I need to worry about, maybe tell us what's changed, let us know how we can help, just a thought. Thanks for the concern. I don't want to talk individually about people's reasons but some have felt the urge to leave, some left because others had left and others left for entirely separate reasons. There's nothing to worry about, Neowin will still be here tomorrow and the day after it's just a slight change in the amount of staff we have. Some will be replaced, others won't. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/790266-staff-re-shuffle/page/3/#findComment-591201210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Although I don't expect people's personal drama to be made public, it is a bit worrying as a member that such apparently small changes could prompt such a large number of good people to leave. Whatever the reasons though good luck to all of you in your future endavours (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/790266-staff-re-shuffle/page/3/#findComment-591201224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calum Veteran Posted June 28, 2009 Veteran Share Posted June 28, 2009 Neowin can only continue to be a success! It's our members who make us and you're a great community, so keep it up :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/790266-staff-re-shuffle/page/3/#findComment-591201286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 FrankMarshalus Shane Pitman AgEnTsMiTh Eric DirtyLarry shockz Triliaeris have all been set to veteran. AgentSmith, and DirtyLarry,? NOOOO! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/790266-staff-re-shuffle/page/3/#findComment-591201530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCNaddict Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Although I don't expect people's personal drama to be made public, it is a bit worrying as a member that such apparently small changes could prompt such a large number of good people to leave. Whatever the reasons though good luck to all of you in your future endavours (Y) The change wasn't exactly small. Anyway, don't stress over it. Neowin won't change in the short term, but they'll have to start looking for people to recruit to replace the lost talent. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/790266-staff-re-shuffle/page/3/#findComment-591201642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
what Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Thanks for the concern. I don't want to talk individually about people's reasons but some have felt the urge to leave, some left because others had left and others left for entirely separate reasons. There's nothing to worry about, Neowin will still be here tomorrow and the day after it's just a slight change in the amount of staff we have. Some will be replaced, others won't. Or will it? :shiftyninja: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/790266-staff-re-shuffle/page/3/#findComment-591202280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted June 28, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted June 28, 2009 This isn't said with malicious intent, but can be removed if speculation isn't wanted. I can only assume certain members retired if the word is correct about Neowin axing the gaming news (just keeping "main" articles or whatever that means). Some people were brought in especially for that as it was made out to be quite the big deal, now a complete 180 on it. Whatever the case best of luck to everyone involved, those who have retired, and the new staff. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/790266-staff-re-shuffle/page/3/#findComment-591202288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 FrankMarshalus Shane Pitman AgEnTsMiTh Eric DirtyLarry shockz Triliaeris have all been set to veteran. :| That is a lot of staff leaving some big names there that we have all seen frequently around the forum especially Frank, Shane Pitman, Agentsmith and DirtyLarry. Where have they gone are they going to ArsTechnica like Slimy? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/790266-staff-re-shuffle/page/3/#findComment-591202290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+M2Ys4U Subscriber¹ Posted June 28, 2009 Subscriber¹ Share Posted June 28, 2009 The change wasn't exactly small.Anyway, don't stress over it. Neowin won't change in the short term, but they'll have to start looking for people to recruit to replace the lost talent. What is the change anyway? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/790266-staff-re-shuffle/page/3/#findComment-591202432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted June 28, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted June 28, 2009 (edited) What is the change anyway? Good question. Whatever changes were announced in the staff area must be drastic - otherwise there wouldn't have been such an exodus of a lot of senior staff. Mind you, Marshalus and Shane Pitman were the ones turning Neowin from a mainly copy/paste-based news site to a well respected news site in its own right. There have to have happened some drastic developments for them to resign. It would be great if the administrators shed some more light on what really happened, and which changes affecting us as members are to come. Edit: A comment like 'what happened is none of your concern. Now go about your business, things will be fine.' won't do. The amount of resignations in one day as well as the fact that long-time, loyal staff members have resigned is too much to remain unexplained. Edited June 28, 2009 by Mephistopheles Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/790266-staff-re-shuffle/page/3/#findComment-591202450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 The change wasn't exactly small.Anyway, don't stress over it. Neowin won't change in the short term, but they'll have to start looking for people to recruit to replace the lost talent. The only change I immediately noticed was putting tom in as Admin, but I am not stressing over it I just find it strange that so many high level staff members felt they needed to leave. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/790266-staff-re-shuffle/page/3/#findComment-591202468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miuku. Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 I just find it strange that so many high level staff members felt they needed to leave. "Nothing breeds fear like uncertainty. And nothing fuels uncertainty like a lack of information". Seriously though, it would be nice to know. Did Microsoft buy out Neowin? /gasp. Rumours! ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/790266-staff-re-shuffle/page/3/#findComment-591202484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Hammond Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 What irritates me is the attitude of the staff talking down to people like they dont need to know. The only reason i come to Neowin is for the forums and the staff that manage the forums and several very likeable staff members have resigned, i would like to know why and wether the reason they were fired or resigned is going to affect my stay as a member of the community. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/790266-staff-re-shuffle/page/3/#findComment-591202494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Teej Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 ****, I log in and there's a mass exodus out of nowhere. Chances are, if there's new changes around Neowin that prompted this "reshuffle", then we'll find out about it fairly soon. I mean, if it is that, then the change will have to happen eventually. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/790266-staff-re-shuffle/page/3/#findComment-591202496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad. Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Damn, that really is a lot of staff being set to veteran, they deserve the veteran badge but most of them were my favorite mods (and PureLegend, of course ;)) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/790266-staff-re-shuffle/page/3/#findComment-591202502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted June 28, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted June 28, 2009 What irritates me is the attitude of the staff talking down to people like they dont need to know.The only reason i come to Neowin is for the forums and the staff that manage the forums and several very likeable staff members have resigned, i would like to know why and wether the reason they were fired or resigned is going to affect my stay as a member of the community. Amen to that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/790266-staff-re-shuffle/page/3/#findComment-591202504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veedems Veteran Posted June 28, 2009 Veteran Share Posted June 28, 2009 To clairfy the little I know: No one was fired. The people who left did so on their own accord, but made that choice because they no longer felt like they could operate within the system that's set up. Personally, though, if I hadn't stepped down a month or so ago, I would have done so yesterday. It's too complex of a situation to discuss while omitting key details out of respect for the site. This is more complicated than the mini implosion we had a few years ago within the ranks. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/790266-staff-re-shuffle/page/3/#findComment-591202758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the andyman Veteran Posted June 28, 2009 Veteran Share Posted June 28, 2009 What irritates me is the attitude of the staff talking down to people like they dont need to know.The only reason i come to Neowin is for the forums and the staff that manage the forums and several very likeable staff members have resigned, i would like to know why and wether the reason they were fired or resigned is going to affect my stay as a member of the community. They resigned, weren't fired. There was a slight catalyst effect though (please don't take that out of context). As far as I know not everyone left for the same reasons so if you want to know why someone left I'm afraid you'll have to ask them yourself, although it's up to them whether they want to reply and I doubt you'd receive a response. Just remember that personal issues deserve to stay that: personal and private. I hope this helps to quell any speculation or rumours. I know a lot of you want "answers" and this was obviously a fairly major occurrence. As far as I'm concerned you guys deserve to know something but you deserve to hear that from people higher up than me. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/790266-staff-re-shuffle/page/3/#findComment-591202774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoL Veteran Posted June 28, 2009 Veteran Share Posted June 28, 2009 Congrats Tom (Y) (Y) Sad to see a lot of great staff members go. :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/790266-staff-re-shuffle/page/3/#findComment-591202776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 I see what happened here. Neobond threatened to introduce a budget cap of ?40m which the new Vets weren't happy with. After several meetings trying to find a compromise, they've now resigned and are off to start a breakaway series?;)) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/790266-staff-re-shuffle/page/3/#findComment-591202782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted June 28, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted June 28, 2009 (edited) To clairfy the little I know: No one was fired. The people who left did so on their own accord, but made that choice because they no longer felt like they could operate within the system that's set up. Personally, though, if I hadn't stepped down a month or so ago, I would have done so yesterday. It's too complex of a situation to discuss while omitting key details out of respect for the site. This is more complicated than the mini implosion we had a few years ago within the ranks. Therefore it surely has to be attached to Neowin's relations to Stardock/Microsoft and/or any other affiliated companies/members of staff? The minute people start saying "out of respect for the site" when it's the users/readers that ultimately make the site means it's probably behind the scenes business/politics. Some things may be better left unsaid in "fear" of the board members starting a rant/blowing things out of proportion or whatever [or if they're truly private matters], but there's gotta be a bit more transparency for us to know why so many people stepped down. If it's not from being "fired", that's actually more concerning as people who've given months/years and countless hours to the board left at their own will over something that's changed/changing. If some of the staff were asked to step down then at least you'd know they still wanted to write for/moderate the site, but couldn't continue for certain matters out with their control. As I said above I've only heard about gaming news being axed/cut back, which I think may have affected some mods/news writers views [those who've spent their time heavily involved in Neowin's gaming sector]. If one or two people stepped down you could understand it more (any time there is change there's a chance for some people to disagree). But 8 large names... Frank Marshalus Shane Pitman AgEnTsMiTh Eric DirtyLarry shockz Triliaeris DL surprises me the most as I'm from the GH, he gave his soul to that section, seemed so pumped about getting the news team/overhaul for the main site, then bam. Would probably explain him going from News Staff back to mod, then ultimately retired. Any other day I could've put him retiring down to us gamers age-ing him 20 years with all the GH drama over the past few years.... :laugh: Edited June 28, 2009 by Audioboxer Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/790266-staff-re-shuffle/page/3/#findComment-591202788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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