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[+Jamushroom]

Gundam 00's film didn't really fit the series IMO though. There shouldn't be aliens in the Gundam Franchise, lol. Also, the 2nd season of it was a bit of a mess as far as I can remember. It was a good season but it was a bit of a mess compared to the 1st season.

Anyway, Gundam shouldn't make a series of 600 episodes like ever. The shorter stories is what makes Gundam a good anime. Also, you can't really compare Naruto with Gundam because Gundam is about wars. Having a war spanned over 600 episodes would become boring pretty quickly.

[Mr.XXIV]

Jamushroom, on 09 May 2013 - 14:44, said:

Gundam 00's film didn't really fit the series IMO though. There shouldn't be aliens in the Gundam Franchise, lol. Also, the 2nd season of it was a bit of a mess as far as I can remember. It was a good season but it was a bit of a mess compared to the 1st season.

Anyway, Gundam shouldn't make a series of 600 episodes like ever. The shorter stories is what makes Gundam a good anime. Also, you can't really compare Naruto with Gundam because Gundam is about wars. Having a war spanned over 600 episodes would become boring pretty quickly.

In the movie, there's only one thing that questions me. The apparent clone of Trinity.

In the 2nd season, it's because they were really trying to fit in the tradition of having newtypes and cyber newtypes, blonde guys with masks, and the main characters who always happen to be lucky to pilot the Gundam in eventuality.

[+Jamushroom]

The later doesn't make sense for Gundam 00. It's not like in Mobile Gundam Suit were he decides to pilot a Gundam. Setsuna was basically chosen to be the pilot by Celestial Being. For me those weren't really the reasons why it was a mess. The 1st season just felt way better than the 2nd season. Story telling felt better, the characters felt better. Saji's crap didn't have to be in season 2 and Louise was kinda annoying as well. I'd have to re-watch season 2 to see what made me feel like it was a mess though. But I do remember I had that feeling the 1st time around when I watched it.

Also, Mina Carmine actually is a clone of Nena Trinity. It's nothing new in the Gundam Franchise. Full Frontal is a clone of Char in the manga as well which is even more apparent.

The aliens are the only thing that bothers me about the movie. It just doesn't make sense in the Gundam franchise, IMO. That and that Setsuna and Marina say the same thing at the end is what bothered me.

[Mr.XXIV]

Jamushroom, on 09 May 2013 - 17:35, said:

The later doesn't make sense for Gundam 00. It's not like in Mobile Gundam Suit were he decides to pilot a Gundam. Setsuna was basically chosen to be the pilot by Celestial Being. For me those weren't really the reasons why it was a mess. The 1st season just felt way better than the 2nd season. Story telling felt better, the characters felt better. Saji's crap didn't have to be in season 2 and Louise was kinda annoying as well. I'd have to re-watch season 2 to see what made me feel like it was a mess though. But I do remember I had that feeling the 1st time around when I watched it.

Also, Mina Carmine actually is a clone of Nena Trinity. It's nothing new in the Gundam Franchise. Full Frontal is a clone of Char in the manga as well which is even more apparent.

The aliens are the only thing that bothers me about the movie. It just doesn't make sense in the Gundam franchise, IMO. That and that Setsuna and Marina say the same thing at the end is what bothered me.

You're right on being chosen. I suppose Gundam 00should be considered a covert version of the franchise along with MS 08th.

I loved the 1st season for the story, I love the 2nd season for the action. It was episode 11 I believe, when Setsuna first quantized himself, that's where I got crazy about it! I'm the aesthetic type. Saji and Louise was definitely annoying. But I don't think it'd be as easy for the creators to cut a character out to the next season unless that character made an exit or was killed.

Gundam 00 came out as one of the most aggressive in my opinion, and one of the few gundams where scenes aren't repetitive like Seed.

[+Jamushroom]

Well, 08th MS Team is something completely different than Gundam 00. 08th MS Team is just about a mobile suit infantry in UC. Gundam 00 is about Celestial Being trying to eradicate war.

That's true, but they could've made them appear less annoying in the 2nd season Not sure what it was for season 2 that did it for me. The first episode maybe with the stealthy Setsuna. The 2nd time of watching season 2 that episode made some impact on me. Then again, the 2nd time of watching Gundam 00 I was watching it in 1080p, that already did a lot on its own.

You're forgetting about Gundam Wing, which Gundam 00 shares similarities with. Gundam Wing was very aggressive as well and more western than any of the Gundam series.

[Razorwing]

Seriously? 3.0? Should be interesting.

[+Brando212]

Jamushroom, on 09 May 2013 - 13:58, said:

Gundam 00 also rounded up pretty nicely with the 2nd season so it could've even have gone on for 10 seasons

while true, the movie tried to cram too much in and could have instead been a third season (would have had a LOT of potential doing it that way i think). as it was they hardly got to show off the new gundams in the movie

[+Brando212]

Jamushroom, on 09 May 2013 - 19:05, said:

You're forgetting about Gundam Wing, which Gundam 00 shares similarities with. Gundam Wing was very aggressive as well and more western than any of the Gundam series.

I'd almost say the G-Gundam was more western than Gundam Wing. but that could just be me

[Mr.XXIV]

Brando212, on 15 May 2013 - 00:24, said:

I'd almost say the G-Gundam was more western than Gundam Wing. but that could just be me

Ehh, Gundam Wing was more of a "take it seriously" version of G-Gundam + Gundam 00. Gundam Seed was too J-pop for me and I just watched the 2 seasons again.

[+Jamushroom]

Not really sure how something from the past could be something else from the past mixed with the future If any, the creators of Gundam 00 looked at Gundam Wing for inspiration. There's lots of similarities. There's hardly any similarity between G-Gundam and Gundam Wing though if you ask me. And yeah, Gundam Wing was a series with a more serious tone, than the ones after Zeta Gundam.

Brando212, on 15 May 2013 - 00:18, said:

while true, the movie tried to cram too much in and could have instead been a third season (would have had a LOT of potential doing it that way i think). as it was they hardly got to show off the new gundams in the movie

True that. It would've been a better story if they had done that.

Brando212, on 15 May 2013 - 00:24, said:

I'd almost say the G-Gundam was more western than Gundam Wing. but that could just be me

Well, Gundam Wing is the first Gundam show to be popular in the US and even more popular than in Japan. That's why I called it a more western Gundam series.

Razorwing, on 15 May 2013 - 00:13, said:

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Seriously? 3.0? Should be interesting.

Very interesting. People thing that it's the RG version in MG form, i.e. color separation and loads of decals. It does look to have more decals than v2.0. I'll definitely be getting v3.0, even though I already have v2.0

[+Jamushroom]

Project Zeta Gundam #2 in progress:



Almost 2 hours later:

[Razorwing]

PICTURES! Looking like a clean build!

[+Jamushroom]

Thanks. Going to start working on it again on Monday.

Those are the original colors for the RX-78-2 before Bandai told the designers to change them to a more happier/flashier color scheme. I'm pretty glad Bandai told them to change the color scheme to be honest

[Razorwing]

I'm still waiting for the AGE-2DB to be on shelves. When does it come out again?

[+Jamushroom]

Later this year. It was on display at Shizouka Hobby Show 2013 this week.