HawkMan Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 LED or LCD. Plasma is crap. Again, in what way. people keep saying this without giving any reason, when EVERY stat as far as PQ goes is better on a plasma. The only TV that even gets close to a plasma is the Samsung 8 series (and similar) we have it set up at the shop. and it's an awesome TV, the picture is super sharp and the contrast is great, But edge light bleeding, not quite as good blacks or colors as the plasmas. it's just impossible for an LCD based tv to get as good as a plasma. Most people actually preferred the HD ready Panasonic 50 inch Plasma over the Samsung. Which I can understand. When everythign about the pictures except the resolution, which they don't care to much about anyway, is better, and the price is less than a quarter of it, then yeah, I'd go for it to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgjerlow Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Again, in what way. people keep saying this without giving any reason, when EVERY stat as far as PQ goes is better on a plasma. The only TV that even gets close to a plasma is the Samsung 8 series (and similar) we have it set up at the shop. and it's an awesome TV, the picture is super sharp and the contrast is great, But edge light bleeding, not quite as good blacks or colors as the plasmas. it's just impossible for an LCD based tv to get as good as a plasma. Most people actually preferred the HD ready Panasonic 50 inch Plasma over the Samsung. Which I can understand. When everythign about the pictures except the resolution, which they don't care to much about anyway, is better, and the price is less than a quarter of it, then yeah, I'd go for it to. For one, plasma TV's are outdated technology by now. They may have a great picture, but they come with consequences as well. The main reason that I say Plasma is crap, is because the picture can freeze into the screen if you have the same picture on the screen for a while (Think I heard it's after like 5 hours it starts to freeze into screen?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
44MLX Posted December 27, 2011 Author Share Posted December 27, 2011 The Samsung plasma I have got new is awesome really happy with it. But only if i was able to mount it on the wall :D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htcz Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Its bad that OLED displays are still not mainstream :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAZMINATOR Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 For one, plasma TV's are outdated technology by now. They may have a great picture, but they come with consequences as well. The main reason that I say Plasma is crap, is because the picture can freeze into the screen if you have the same picture on the screen for a while (Think I heard it's after like 5 hours it starts to freeze into screen?) In the first generation of plasmas days, we used to worry about that problem but now we don't because new plasmas have new feature to prevent that problem and there are some solutions to fix the ghost-like images on the screen if that happens on older plasmas. Which is why there are smart people in the world to solve the problem. If you want a plasma, no problem. Got a 'ghost-like' image on the screen? no problem, look up on the internet for the fix. Not if you have anti-burn in Plasma TV. If you do not have anti-burn, then the image can burn on the screen and you can tell. For example, network logo such as ESPN logo in lower right corner which is staying there for awhile and then when you turn it off, you will notice 'ghost-like' ESPN image on the screen. If this happens, no big deal because the 'ghost-like' images can be removed with the special software or something like that. If you have to look up on Google for that. Plasmas are great for dark rooms. LCD/LED are great for any time of the day or night. My brother has 2 plasmas and been running over 5 years now. No problems so far which I used to hear about plasmas going out in 5 years, I mean plasmas stop working and you get black screen and nothing going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 For one, plasma TV's are outdated technology by now. They may have a great picture, but they come with consequences as well. The main reason that I say Plasma is crap, is because the picture can freeze into the screen if you have the same picture on the screen for a while (Think I heard it's after like 5 hours it starts to freeze into screen?) Plasma is no more outdated than LCD, nd FYI, LED is LCD. and as has been said, the burn in problem is gone. Panasonic even has a 5 day warranty that tv logos won't be burned in even after 5 days. Plasma's have no shorter lifetime than an LCD. in fact they have longer time. an LCD used CFL's, these die. a LED tv uses LED's LED's actually go dimmer for every hour they're used for their entire lifetime untill they hit about 20-40% of original power depending on type. A 5 year old plasma will look as good as when it was new, a 5 year old LED will be significantly dimmer. Now we're not even talking about the PQ differences. Where a plasma has perfect blacks. individual light control of every pixel (even backlit LED's don't have that, they have about a 1000 back light LEDs, this is less than 10% of the pixels). Plasma's also suffer no ghosting or Edge light bleeding, which EVERY LCD/LED has, even the high end Series 8 samsung. Plasma may be "older" technology, but it's still better technology. and Plasma today is no the same as Plasma 5 years ago, much less Plasma's of 10 years ago which was when you had the issues you're talking about. And the quality of LCD's back then was horrendous. I'm surprised people even wanted to switch from their CRT's. the whole 5 year thing is the same thing as the idea peopel had that Plasma's laked gas and stopped working. it's just not possible and just does not happen. if a TV dies it's because it breaks down, andis as likely to happen to a LCD as a Plasma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astra.Xtreme Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 A 5 year old plasma will look as good as when it was new, a 5 year old LED will be significantly dimmer. No no, that's just utter non-sense. Both technologies get dimmer with time, but it will only be noticeable after a very substantial amount of usage. We're talking decades of casual usage before it would be noticeable. Absolutely not 5 years. No need to spread lies... The only real advantage of LCD over plasma is that it uses much less power and the chassis can be smaller and more suitable for hanging on a wall. To some people, those are two very important advantages. But most importantly, it comes down to brand. If you buy a crappy branded plasma or LCD, it will probably get sub-par performance and life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
44MLX Posted December 27, 2011 Author Share Posted December 27, 2011 I know I have 1-Year manufacture warranty so I will be using my plasma anything wrong I can get it replaced. But I'm sure that I won't have any faults with my Plasma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peacemf Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Plasma Led the blacks look too light. LCD is just old school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S. Veteran Posted December 27, 2011 Veteran Share Posted December 27, 2011 Another vote for LED, can't beat the depth of the picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Another vote for LED, can't beat the depth of the picture Yuuup. Hell, even some of the LCD's are just as good as the LED/LCD's for depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Another vote for LED, can't beat the depth of the picture Unless it's a plasma, THEN you can't beat it for depth of picture ;) Yuuup. Hell, even some of the LCD's are just as good as the LED/LCD's for depth. that's because LED IS LCD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nashy Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Plasma. But it really depends on what you use it for. I hated LCD for gaming, I couldn't see anything on my 32 because of the stupid resolution. Plasma is great for my gaming needs, and it makes my HD sports look fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
44MLX Posted December 28, 2011 Author Share Posted December 28, 2011 I've finally mounted my Plasma TV on the wall. Awesome quality, Plasma is the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S. Veteran Posted December 28, 2011 Veteran Share Posted December 28, 2011 Unless it's a plasma, THEN you can't beat it for depth of picture ;)... I used to think so too, my sis and her hubby have a Sony Plasma...she was dumbfounded after seeing our LG LED...she'll be getting one soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
44MLX Posted December 28, 2011 Author Share Posted December 28, 2011 My sister and her husband have an LCD TV aswell, but the quality with my Plasma is much better than their LCD TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linsook Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 http://lcdtvbuyingguide.com/lcdtv-plasmavslcd.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belto Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 LED is a much more economic choice. Plasma is very expesinve to fix but today's TV's are just about equal. My Toshiba LED TV was a excellent choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim K Global Moderator Posted December 28, 2011 Global Moderator Share Posted December 28, 2011 I used to think so too, my sis and her hubby have a Sony Plasma...she was dumbfounded after seeing our LG LED...she'll be getting one soon. Well yea, that Sony plasma is probably 5ish years old (Sony stopped making plasma's in 06 or 07). I guarantee they wouldn't want an LG LED after viewing my Pro-111FD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S. Veteran Posted December 28, 2011 Veteran Share Posted December 28, 2011 A mediocre HDTV might produce black levels of 0.05 to 0.07 cd/m2, while an excellent HDTV might offer levels of 0.01 to 0.03 cd/m2. Historically, plasma HDTVs have produced the best black levels, specifically the now-defunct Pioneer Kuro HDTV brand. The Kuro's screen got so satisfyingly dark that it remained a popular HDTV for enthusiasts long after Pioneer stopped making the sets. The domination of plasma in this field, however, is over. Our current Editors' Choice HDTV, the LED-based LG Infinia 47LW5600, puts out only 0.01 cd/m2, the best level we can measure. That any LED-backlit LCD can get that dark shows how far the technology has come. source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoLiMiT06 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I have a 6 year old 37" Plasma TV and the picture quality is damn near perfect when it is calibrated correctly. My dad has a 55" LED Samsung and I think my TV looks better :p He won't let me calibrate it for him so that's prob the biggest reason but I have calibrated it once and changed it back and I still think my TV looks better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nashy Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Stats and tests mean nothing in the TV market. It's what is going to best suit the buyers needs. Plasma>LED>LCD. That's for me. For the next guy, it could be different. It all depends what you use it for. It's no different than an argument about what the better browser is. It's up to the individual, to find the type that suits them best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexalex Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Plasma for un-matches picture quality. I use 50" Pioneer Kuro :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 source Yeah when the entire screen is black and it turns off the backlight. LEDs today have horizontal zones where it will turn off the backlight. Which can give excellent blacks in that area. But put a hute pixel next to a black and plama sill is perfect black to perfect white. Hthe contrast and dynamic of the picture is unmatched. LC technology just can't match it technically. RGB backlit LED was close, but not quite there since it was light zones, not individual pixels, also it was extremely expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMELTN Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Whats the best way to calibrate a TV? I mean my Mother is buying a new one this weekend. Her first "flat panel". She doesn't want anything but Sony.. She is a Sony brand freak, but I know I want to calibrate it for her.. She is probably getting a 55" LED Sony. Can I calibrate it, without some expensive tool to buy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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