win8 Metro Inconsistencies already starting

[+Warwagon MVC]

Hopefully this question won't take the thread off topic. I'm not saying you're wrong?I'm actually curious to be informed: What are the inconsistencies?

A good example would be Having both the desktop UI and Metro in 1 OS That by itself is inconsistent.

[Calum Veteran]

A good example would be Having both the desktop UI and Metro in 1 OS That by itself is inconsistent.

I understand that. That's why I asked him which inconsistencies are only evident in the "Metro" experience, if he was referring to that or both experiences :)

[devHead]

Hey atleast the hard drive properties pie merges nicely with Metro UI now.

Ha! I know; if we're talking about legacy UI elements that have been around, this purple thing from Windows 95 is still on hard drive Properties dialog boxes. I have to say, I'm surprised that they've kept the exact same Computer, Recycle Bin, Network, Control Panel icons which are in the glossy Windows Vista/7 scheme.

But to me the biggest glaring oversight is:

THEY HAVEN'T FIXED THE ISSUE THAT EXISTS WHEN YOU PICK CUSTOM ICONS FOR THE RECYCLE BINS. IF YOU DELETE SOMETHING INTO AN EMPTY BIN, THE ICON DOESN'T CHANGE UNTIL YOU HIT F5 (REFRESH). AND IF YOU EMPTY THE RECYCLE BIN, THE ICON DOESN'T CHANGE BACK UNTIL YOU DO THE SAME (F5). YOU HAVE TO MANUALLY EDIT THIS IN THE REGISTRY TO GET IT TO WORK CORRECTLY.

What's up with that guys!? I'm not yelling with the above; it's more of a Metro-inspired announcement.

[Quillz]

You also have to remember that windows 8 was just leaked when it actually releases they will of course send out service packs and updates to fix eveything which was missed or messed up on.

Services packs don't add features nor do they address graphical issues. (XP SP2 was the only exception.) All service packs do is simply collect all the previous hotfixes into one release.

Graphical issues will not be addressed until Windows 9.

[Jygoro]

You know what's funny? Just hover the mouse pointer over Minimize, Maximize or Close buttons and the yellowish XP tooltip is still there even in Win8 RTM. :D

[alisalem]

Microsoft is the opposite of consistency. Try to live with that.

[George P Global Moderator]

There should only be 1 control panel in the whole OS, in my opinion. The desktop control panel has gotten more complicated over the years. A simplification and unification with the "metro" control panel would be better.

I agree, but you said it yourself, it's become complex and they need to add things over time and get it right. At some point the old control panel will be gone or at least just be there for more "advanced" options that few really use but are still needed. Only time will tell but I'm sure more will be moved over to the new start screen control panel.

[Subhadip]

What is rather ironic given the thread title is that Metro / WinRT environment by itself is exceedingly consistent. In fact it is so consistent that it goes the extra mile and encourages third party app developers to follow the same design concepts! Yes, there aren't too many apps available so far, but switching between different WinRT apps is impossibly fluid and a huge revelation. (and yes, using mouse and keyboard) Huge shock then, when you switch back to Desktop. Over the years Windows has picked up its fair amount of quirks. Though most of them are minor and easily overlooked, they are nevertheless there. Some of these are there due to some strange compatibility reason or the other. That is also why Desktop wasn't Metro-fied, apparently the XP to Vista transition was a huge headache for developers, particularly switching from white titles on dark to dark titles on clouded light. It is not because they are "lazy" or don't have resources, Microsoft is a massive company with 90,000 employees!

I am afraid the Desktop will never really be consistent, the solution was always to start from scratch, and they have achieved that with Metro. Now, the thing is, Windows 8 ships with what is clearly Metro 1.0 and most of us simply cannot do without the Desktop, as simple as that. They could have waited till 2016 to ship a complete Metro, but that is not practical. Over the years, I would expect Metro to grow in functionality and there will come a time (Windows 10?) where it will do everything Desktop ever did (and of course more). Desktop will still live on, again for compatibility/legacy reasons, just like the command line has. It is sad but true, some corporate systems run software and hardware from the 90s.

[dagamer34]

You do realize that no one outside of Microsoft and OEMs officially have access to the RTM version of Windows 8 right? And that even the driver development team is going to have to wait for MSDN access? (why don't they have it already you ask, because you don't want people outside of the Windows team to access the code and MSDN is already setup).

[The Dark Knight]

You know what's funny? Just hover the mouse pointer over Minimize, Maximize or Close buttons and the yellowish XP tooltip is still there even in Win8 RTM. :D

Jeeez! They are SERIOUSLY lazy!

A lot of people will say no big deal, but for me at least this clearly shows a lack of professionalism and quality control.