[BREAKING] Apple V. Samsung Jury reaches verdict.


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Hopefully this will spur new innovation and Samsung won't feel the need to just copy what Apple has done. Windows Phone although I don't like it, is innovative and looks absolutely nothing like an iPhone in any way and it was created in a post-iPhone world.

It can't spur innovation when most of the obvious gesture patents are upheld. The reason Microsoft does the same thing and is able to do that is because they are in cahoots with Apple.

Anyone else who does these natural gestures (double tap to zoom) and other stuff can't do it now because these Apple's ridiculous patents were voted upheld.

Apple now has weapon to go after everyone competing with them in this new touch generation of devices.

It can't spur innovation when most of the obvious gesture patents are upheld. The reason Microsoft does the same thing and is able to do that is because they are in cahoots with Apple.

Anyone else who does these natural gestures (double tap to zoom) and other stuff can't do it now because these Apple's ridiculous patents were voted upheld.

Apple now has weapon to go after everyone competing with them in this new touch generation of devices.

I guess Google should have patented it first? haha

Good. Regardless of whether or not Apple is being anti-competitve elsewhere, Samsung was clearly taking the p*** in my opinion. Maybe they'll hire some real software & hardware designers and create their own style, if they have any money left.

doesn't samsung supply parts to apple? I think samsung needs to play dirty if apple is.

Exactly! Since Samsung does make Apple's processors for them, I'd be like "crap, this batch is suddenly defective and we'll have to have a major slowdown until we fix it" which would totally screw Apple over.

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Read what I said before replying. I said MOST...key word here is MOST . I did not say ALL.

i know... the problem is not fixing via software update the design faults that Apple accused, but the hardware design faults.

and yes, the patent system is borked, this court decision just shows it.

It can't spur innovation when most of the obvious gesture patents are upheld. The reason Microsoft does the same thing and is able to do that is because they are in cahoots with Apple.

Anyone else who does these natural gestures (double tap to zoom) and other stuff can't do it now because these Apple's ridiculous patents were voted upheld.

Apple now has weapon to go after everyone competing with them in this new touch generation of devices.

More lies. Microsoft aren't in cahoots. They have a cross licensing agreement which Samsung could also have if the two organizations agree the terms and the appropriate compensation (in both directions).

Remember this had already been offered to Samsung, but they chose not to take it up.

Damages time...this should be good.

1 billion, 51 million 855 thousand dollars

Not as much as apple asked for....

What was the original figure? Pretty sure that will get knocked down a few notches post appeals.

If it doesn't, well...

4:08:02 PM PDT Transform: $954,060

4:07:51 PM PDT Replenish: $3,350,256

4:07:40 PM PDT $53,123,612 for the Mesmerize

4:07:30 PM PDT Going through the damages for each phone. More than $57 million for the Prevail. Infused 4G: $44,792,974

Exactly! Since Samsung does make Apple's processors for them, I'd be like "crap, this batch is suddenly defective and we'll have to have a major slowdown until we fix it" which would totally screw Apple over.

And it would totally screw Samsung too. It would be a suicidal decision, and no stockholders will allow it.

I guess Google should have patented it first? haha

it's not about patenting it first. Apple shouldn't even be able to patent things as vague as they do. it's like patenting the way a button is pushed, it's stupidly vague

Great news! Excellent news!

I don't even care if the launch a new iPhone or new computers, this has been Christmas in August.

Take that Samsung, copycat *******!

How is this good news? This nonsense is going to **** up the industry. (I really don't give 2 ****s about either company but this is bad).

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More lies. Microsoft aren't in cahoots. They have a cross licensing agreement

Sure.. and they didn't pay anything to each other because Microsoft is one of the biggest patent trolls. Yes, they are in cahoots.

And Apple asking for insane amounts of money for licensing agreement is not reasonable at all especially on such generic patents. Nobody would have accepted that.

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