[BREAKING] Apple V. Samsung Jury reaches verdict.

[episode]

It's already on the front page of Neowin ("Apple wins) and they haven't finished reading the ****ing thing yet. Pathetic.

All the tech sites are covering it the same way. Its obvious Apple is winning on most counts. Thus, they win the case.

[techbeck]

Not surprised. I thought Samsung had a good argument, still do. Samsung, their lawyers, made a lot of mistakes and were not as prepared as Apple.

[remixedcat]

what's STA,SEC,etc??

[Denis W. Veteran]

Silly question, but what do SEC, STA, SEA correspond to? Samsung's divisions? If so I'm gusssing "Samsung Electronics Co," "Samsung Electronics America," and...

Also, given they're evaluating patent infringement on a device-by-device basis it's a bit early to claim a clean victory or defeat.

[Nogib]

wouldn't '381, '163, and '915 be just part of the OS, not really samsung's thing? or is that only on samsung android phones?

That is one thing I never really understood. A lot of the things Apple was whining like a little bitch about are part of Android and not anything Samsung specific.

[techbeck]

what's STA,SEC,etc??

Samsung Electronics Co. (SEC), Samsung Electronics America (SEA), and/or Samsung Telecommunications America (STA)

[@Leo]

what's STA,SEC,etc??

Samsung Electronics America (SEA)

Samsung Telecommunications America (STA)

Samsung Electronics Co. (SEC)

[Boz]

This is a sad day for tech industry. The worst proprietary company gets a winning verdict on most obvious patents. This is going to cause a huge issue for everyone who wants to use similar gestures for their devices.

I don't think the jury understands what they have done really and how far reaching consequences this will have on consumer choice.

[remixedcat]

Thanks techbeck.

[Dashel]

That is one thing I never really understood. A lot of the things Apple was whining like a little bitch about are part of Android and not anything Samsung specific.

Since they make 'both' pieces their strategy is clearly to attack both 'offending' prongs - hardware and software. Since they put that software on, its fair game. Google is on deck now.

[Praetor]

this is sad. time for apeal!

[techbeck]

Well, Samsung will be able to afford any fines. And most of the things they are getting slammed on are old products or issues that can be resolved via a software update.

[Boz]

The only good thing is let's hope this gets rid of that god awful TouchWiz crap from their phones.

[Nogib]

The only good thing is let's hope this gets rid of that god awful TouchWiz crap from their phones.

That would be the only plus out of it. :)

[episode]

And most of the things they are getting slammed on are old products or issues that can be resolved via a software update.

Yes, but Apple will be awarded damages based on sales of all those offending devices.

[techbeck]

I am predicting that Samsung will not win on any of their claims.

[Praetor]

Well, Samsung will be able to afford any fines. And most of the things they are getting slammed on are old products or issues that can be resolved via a software update.

fixing round squares...via software update?

[Vice]

Hopefully this will spur new innovation and Samsung won't feel the need to just copy what Apple has done. Windows Phone although I don't like it, is innovative and looks absolutely nothing like an iPhone in any way and it was created in a post-iPhone world. So it clearly shows you can create a very capable smart phone without needing to replicate the iPhones user interface and in the case of the Lumia phones you can make a beautiful piece of hardware without copying the iPhone either.

I expect great things from Samsung in the next 24 months.

[techbeck]

fixing round squares...via software update?

Read what I said before replying. I said MOST...key word here is MOST . I did not say ALL.

[Boz]

I'll just say that Samsung's lawyers were terrible

[nominak]

Now for some humor lol

http://qkme.me/3qmaca

Holy Crap..

Damages

$1,051,855,000

That's 1 billion, 51 million, 855 thousand dollars

[techbeck]

Damages time...this should be good.

1 billion, 51 million 855 thousand dollars

Not as much as apple asked for....

[Nogib]

Damages of 1billion? bull****!

[remixedcat]

4:04:36 PM PDT

1 billion, 51 million 855 thousand dollars

4:04:03 PM PDT

Damages.

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fixing round squares...via software update?

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