[BREAKING] Apple V. Samsung Jury reaches verdict.


Recommended Posts

Hopefully this will spur new innovation and Samsung won't feel the need to just copy what Apple has done. Windows Phone although I don't like it, is innovative and looks absolutely nothing like an iPhone in any way and it was created in a post-iPhone world.

It can't spur innovation when most of the obvious gesture patents are upheld. The reason Microsoft does the same thing and is able to do that is because they are in cahoots with Apple.

Anyone else who does these natural gestures (double tap to zoom) and other stuff can't do it now because these Apple's ridiculous patents were voted upheld.

Apple now has weapon to go after everyone competing with them in this new touch generation of devices.

It can't spur innovation when most of the obvious gesture patents are upheld. The reason Microsoft does the same thing and is able to do that is because they are in cahoots with Apple.

Anyone else who does these natural gestures (double tap to zoom) and other stuff can't do it now because these Apple's ridiculous patents were voted upheld.

Apple now has weapon to go after everyone competing with them in this new touch generation of devices.

I guess Google should have patented it first? haha

Good. Regardless of whether or not Apple is being anti-competitve elsewhere, Samsung was clearly taking the p*** in my opinion. Maybe they'll hire some real software & hardware designers and create their own style, if they have any money left.

doesn't samsung supply parts to apple? I think samsung needs to play dirty if apple is.

Exactly! Since Samsung does make Apple's processors for them, I'd be like "crap, this batch is suddenly defective and we'll have to have a major slowdown until we fix it" which would totally screw Apple over.

  • Like 3

Read what I said before replying. I said MOST...key word here is MOST . I did not say ALL.

i know... the problem is not fixing via software update the design faults that Apple accused, but the hardware design faults.

and yes, the patent system is borked, this court decision just shows it.

It can't spur innovation when most of the obvious gesture patents are upheld. The reason Microsoft does the same thing and is able to do that is because they are in cahoots with Apple.

Anyone else who does these natural gestures (double tap to zoom) and other stuff can't do it now because these Apple's ridiculous patents were voted upheld.

Apple now has weapon to go after everyone competing with them in this new touch generation of devices.

More lies. Microsoft aren't in cahoots. They have a cross licensing agreement which Samsung could also have if the two organizations agree the terms and the appropriate compensation (in both directions).

Remember this had already been offered to Samsung, but they chose not to take it up.

Damages time...this should be good.

1 billion, 51 million 855 thousand dollars

Not as much as apple asked for....

What was the original figure? Pretty sure that will get knocked down a few notches post appeals.

If it doesn't, well...

4:08:02 PM PDT Transform: $954,060

4:07:51 PM PDT Replenish: $3,350,256

4:07:40 PM PDT $53,123,612 for the Mesmerize

4:07:30 PM PDT Going through the damages for each phone. More than $57 million for the Prevail. Infused 4G: $44,792,974

Exactly! Since Samsung does make Apple's processors for them, I'd be like "crap, this batch is suddenly defective and we'll have to have a major slowdown until we fix it" which would totally screw Apple over.

And it would totally screw Samsung too. It would be a suicidal decision, and no stockholders will allow it.

I guess Google should have patented it first? haha

it's not about patenting it first. Apple shouldn't even be able to patent things as vague as they do. it's like patenting the way a button is pushed, it's stupidly vague

Great news! Excellent news!

I don't even care if the launch a new iPhone or new computers, this has been Christmas in August.

Take that Samsung, copycat *******!

How is this good news? This nonsense is going to **** up the industry. (I really don't give 2 ****s about either company but this is bad).

  • Like 2

More lies. Microsoft aren't in cahoots. They have a cross licensing agreement

Sure.. and they didn't pay anything to each other because Microsoft is one of the biggest patent trolls. Yes, they are in cahoots.

And Apple asking for insane amounts of money for licensing agreement is not reasonable at all especially on such generic patents. Nobody would have accepted that.

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Posts

    • I'm not unblocking my camera for this crapola. Sorry, Google.
    • Ummmm that is what is it supposed to do. Just turn if off in settings if you do not want it analyzing your open tabs. Chrome does the same thing with Gemini. Sarfari will do the samething after Apple's AI and even more so with the release of their 27 versions that is now powered by Googles LLM/ML models. Understanding why it is doing it and how it can help you vs jumping to some conspiracy theroy is a much better approach. As long as it can be turned off, all is good. Yes the default should be off but the a lot of people would never discover these features.
    • Just another reason (aside from many others) not to use Edge. Firefox 153.0b5 DEx64 has a similar feature added recently in prior builds that I will turn off at some point when I get around to it. It's the new "Something looks suspicious" page that pops up here and there. It cleverly hides itself between web pages that I've actually visited; as a result, you know, of selecting a web page and telling the browser where to go. The interesting thing is that it does not produce these warnings from pages that I, as the only intelligent user of the browser in my system, have ever directed the browser to open! What seems to be happening is that the browser looks at all the goofy ad links on a web page I do actually open and selects one that "looks suspicious" and then creates the "something looks suspicious" web page, which is neatly inserted, as mentioned, between web pages my RB ("real brain") has directed the browser to load in a session. The thing is, I usually look at links I am considering to follow before I ask the browser to load them, and in cases I have noticed where the link does indeed look suspicious, most of the time I will choose to not follow the link at all. Doesn't everyone do this or something similar? I am picky about what I voluntarily load... (I don't like links that start off fine, with a site designaiton that seems normal enough but then is followed by indecipherable alphanumeric strings many, many lines long, etc. I tend to reject those because they look suspicious. They may not be, but I don't care... I'll stay with Firefox, of course, if for no other reason than they usually let you turn off the junk you don't like. And because it isn't Edge... But at some point Microsoft will come to realize that putting your bookmarks on the left side is a Good Thing for a lot of people, just as Microsoft discovered when it had the bright idea of nailing the Windows taskbar to the bottom of the screen, when for decades Microsoft browsers had left that placement up to the user. They have finally reversed the obscenity of that decision. Finally.
    • Google was using the old CATPCHAs data to train their LLMs. What is the say they won't use this camera data of users to train their LLM? these companies need some strict regulations!
  • Recent Achievements

    • One Year In
      BA the Curmudgeon earned a badge
      One Year In
    • Conversation Starter
      rosiecharles earned a badge
      Conversation Starter
    • First Post
      KMilenkoski1202 earned a badge
      First Post
    • First Post
      carols23 earned a badge
      First Post
    • One Month Later
      Tom Willson earned a badge
      One Month Later
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      513
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      259
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      151
    4. 4
      Steven P.
      94
    5. 5
      macoman
      66
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!