[BREAKING] Apple V. Samsung Jury reaches verdict.

By Dot Matrix
in Back Page News

 Share

Recommended Posts

Neowinian

blckhood

Posted
Posted

The jury appears to have awarded damages for the Galaxy Tab 10.1 LTE infringing ? $219,694 worth ? but didn't find that it had actually infringed anything.

A similar inconsistency exists for the Intercept, for which they'd awarded Apple over $2 million

Proficient

szo

Posted
Posted

4:55:08 PM PDT

Rather than simply having the monies removed, Apple is asking that the jury be allowed to revisit its infringement findings.

4:54:37 PM PDT

A similar inconsistency exists for the Intercept, for which they'd awarded Apple over $2 million.

4:53:13 PM PDT

The jury appears to have awarded damages for the Galaxy Tab 10.1 LTE infringing ? $219,694 worth ? but didn't find that it had actually infringed anything.

4:50:33 PM PDT

Judge Koh is back in the courtroom. There are at least two problems with the verdict form.

Grand Master

Boz

Posted
Posted

4:55:08 PM PDT

Rather than simply having the monies removed, Apple is asking that the jury be allowed to revisit its infringement findings.

4:54:37 PM PDT

A similar inconsistency exists for the Intercept, for which they'd awarded Apple over $2 million.

4:53:13 PM PDT

The jury appears to have awarded damages for the Galaxy Tab 10.1 LTE infringing ? $219,694 worth ? but didn't find that it had actually infringed anything.

4:50:33 PM PDT

Judge Koh is back in the courtroom. There are at least two problems with the verdict form.

Just shows that most of the jury already had their minds set to give this to Apple and have just sweepingly given Apple money even on products that don't infringe. Sad really. Samsung really didn't have a chance.

Grand Master

DrCheese

Posted
Posted

So basically this what Apple won.. mind boggling

*snip*

Totally innovation :rolleyes:

Ya, because if Samsung had came up with the idea first, they wouldn't have patented it and then sued anyone who stole the idea :s

Blame the system, not the company that used it. It Apple hadn't patented it and then followed up any violations they would have been grossly negligent towards their shareholders

Grand Master

Quillz

Posted
Posted

sadly, which is soo stupid, Apple is getting WAY TOO anti-competitive. whatever happened to breaking up overly large companies?

it happened to Microsoft at one point, why is it that Apple seems to be immune from this?

Microsoft was never broken up into smaller companies. That was one of the original goals but it was later dropped during the appeal process, IIRC.

Grand Master

remixedcat

Posted
Posted

Apple argues that based on the nuance of the language in the instructions this is a non-issue and both decisions can stand. Koh admits that she "is swayed" by Apple's argument.

Experienced

benthebear

Posted
Posted

Who cares where it was done first? Someone invented the steering wheel first but every car has one. Patents are idiotic.

Like other the components of an automobile, the steering wheel has a patent. So, if I were to make a car, and I just threw the traditional steering wheel in without license the patent, guess what happens to me? The US Justice system would Samsung me.

Just shows that most of the jury already had their minds set to give this to Apple and have just sweepingly given Apple money even on products that don't infringe. Sad really. Samsung really didn't have a chance.

Your team lost, so you start with the conspiracy theories. Color me surprised.

Grand Master

Boz

Posted
Posted

Samsung's statement:

Today's verdict should not be viewed as a win for Apple, but as a loss for the American consumer. It will lead to fewer choices, less innovation, and potentially higher prices. It is unfortunate that patent law can be manipulated to give one company a monopoly over rectangles with rounded corners, or technology that is being improved every day by Samsung and other companies. Consumers have the right to choices, and they know what they are buying when they purchase Samsung products. This is not the final word in this case or in battles being waged in courts and tribunals around the world, some of which have already rejected many of Apple's claims. Samsung will continue to innovate and offer choices for the consumer.

100% agree. Most of the world is throwing these patents out. it is indeed a loss for an American consumer.

Experienced

shifts

Posted
Posted

As an apple fan I was swayed by what Samsung had to say being honest. They made some compelling notions in any of their counter arguments against Apple.

From what I can see the whole design of the iPhone might of been "obvious" which is a huge talking point but like most things obvious. It's only so after it;s been pointed out. How many inventions do you see on tv that are of that very nature until someone points it out to you??

Grand Master

dead.cell

Posted
Posted

It's about consumer choice and innovation. not teams.

Too bad that's not true on Neowin and various other sites/forums. Thread comes up about Google's plan to sue Apple, and suddenly everyone's on their feet goin "DO IT, DO IT!!"

How quickly the worry over consumer choice and innovation fades. :laugh:

Grand Master

Vice

Posted
Posted

I don't know how anyone can be "swayed" by arguments someone invented a device with rounded corners and owns the rights to it.. but ok

Look at the George Foreman grill, it's just a grill pointed downwards so the fat runs off, pretty obvious and basic but they have made billions of dollars from something like that and I believe it is patented or secured in some manner.

Fact is, Apple got there first and they spent many years and lots and lots of money to get there, Samsung could have been first but they were not.

This topic is now closed to further replies.
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Posts

    • Price Drop: Save 86% on Microsoft Office 2021 Professional Plus lifetime digital license

      By News Staff · Posted

      Price Drop: Save 86% on Microsoft Office 2021 Professional Plus lifetime digital license by Steven Parker Today's highlighted deal comes via our Apps + Software section of the Neowin Deals store, where you can save 86% on a lifetime license to Microsoft Office 2021 for Windows. This bundle is for families and small businesses who want classic Office apps and email. It includes Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, Teams, and OneNote. A one-time purchase installed on 1 Windows PC for use at home or work. Lifetime license for MS Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, Teams, & OneNote One-time purchase installed on 1 Windows PC for use at home or work Instant Delivery & Download – access your software license keys and download links instantly Free customer service – only the best support! Microsoft Office Professional 2021 (for Windows) includes: Microsoft Office Word Microsoft Office Excel Microsoft Office PowerPoint Microsoft Office Outlook Microsoft Office Teams Microsoft Office OneNote Microsoft Office Publisher Microsoft Office Access No faffing about with subscriptions, just classic apps that don't expire. Good to Know ONE-TIME PURCHASE INSTALLED ON 1 DEVICE Redemption deadline: redeem your code within 30 days of purchase Access options: desktop Full versions No subscriptions – no monthly/annual fees Version: 2021 Updates included* *Support for this version of Office ends on Oct 13, 2026 A lifetime subscription to Microsoft Office 2021 Professional normally costs $219.99, but this deal can be yours for just $29.97, that's a saving of $190. For full terms, specifications, and license info, click the link below. Get Microsoft Office Professional 2021 for just $29.97, or learn more Although priced in U.S. dollars, this deal is available for digital purchase worldwide. Support queries If you have queries or need support for any of the Neowin Deals, please use the contact form here. Neowin Deals are managed and sold by StackCommerce who represent Neowin on an affiliate basis. Why we post these deals We post these because we earn commission on each sale so as not to rely solely on advertising, which many of our readers block. It all helps toward paying staff reporters, servers and hosting costs. So for those that keep moaning and complaining, be thankful we're still online for you to even do that. Other ways to support Neowin Whitelist Neowin by not blocking our ads Create a free member account to see fewer ads Make a donation to support our day to day running costs Subscribe to Neowin - for $14 a year, or $28 a year for an ad-free experience Disclosure: Neowin benefits from revenue of each sale made through our branded deals site powered by StackCommerce.
    • The Trump administration doesn't want you to use OpenAI's GPT-5.6 without its approval

      By ad47uk · Posted

      The only reason I want to know where you from is because if you are not from the U.K, then why should you care what we in the U.K do or don't do? Racist I am not, I am fed up with the amount coming over here and feel they can come over here and think we need to support them. Do you know how much it costs this country to support these people coming over here? Even when we give them a place to live it is not good enough. We had a barge that was being used to house immigrants, oh but that was not good enough. A mate said to me at the time, when he was homeless, he would have been happy to live on the barge, instead of ending up sleeping on a bench on the beach. I am not scared to say what my family heritage is, unlike you who is scared to say where they are from or where they live. Father side U.S, mother side Wales, still have family living in the U.S. A mate who sadly died a few years ago, had a load of people from different races recording in his studio, I got on with all of them. Skin colour don't bother me, where they are from don't bother me. Religion don't bother me as long as they don't push it onto me and it is not crazy stuff. I am not religious. But if you are not living in the U.K, then why should you care if we are in the E.U or not? This the problem, too many people poking their noses into where it don't belong. But you believe what you believe, if you think I am racist, then be it, I really do not care. Just grow a pair
    • Why it's almost impossible to produce a smartphone in the United States

      By dismuter · Posted

      If he hasn't been able to figure that out, then why is he obsessed with tariffs? Because that's one of the most prominent tools to level the playing field when you have high cost of labor.
    • Microsoft released Windows 11 KB5102558, KB5095615 Setup and Recovery updates

      By hellowalkman · Posted

      Microsoft released Windows 11 KB5102558, KB5095615 Setup and Recovery updates by Sayan Sen This past week Microsoft released the newest preview update (C-release) under KB5095093. Alongside those, Microsoft also released new dynamic updates. For those who may not know, dynamic updates bring improvements to the Windows Recovery process in the form of Windows Recovery Environment (WinRE) updates, which are also called Safe OS updates. The dynamic updates also affect the Setup file binaries in the form of Setup updates. These Dynamic Update packages are meant to be applied to existing Windows images prior to their deployment. Dynamic Updates also help preserve Language Pack (LP) and Features on Demand (FODs) content during the upgrade process. VBScript, for example, is currently an FOD on Windows 11 24H2. This time both recovery and setup updates were released for Windows 11. The company writes: "KB5095186: Safe OS Dynamic Update for Windows 11, version 26H1: June 23, 2026 This update makes improvements to the Windows recovery environment (WinRE). After installing this update, the WinRE version installed on the device should be 10.0.28000.2335. KB5102558: Setup Dynamic Update for Windows 11, versions 24H2 and 25H2: June 23, 2026 This update makes improvements to Windows setup binaries or any files that setup uses for feature updates in Windows 11, version 24H2 and Windows 11, version 25H2. KB5095615: Safe OS Dynamic Update for Windows 11, versions 24H2 and 25H2: June 23, 2026 This update makes improvements to the Windows recovery environment (WinRE). After installing this update, the WinRE version installed on the device should be 10.0.26100.8737." Microsoft notes that both the Recovery and Setup updates will be downloaded and installed automatically via the Windows Update channel.
    • Politically funny images of the World

      By +Edouard · Posted

  • Recent Achievements

    • Conversation Starter
      jessse3334 earned a badge
      Conversation Starter
    • Reacting Well
      JuvenileDelinquent earned a badge
      Reacting Well
    • One Month Later
      Excellence2025 earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • Week One Done
      Excellence2025 earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Week One Done
      flexorcist earned a badge
      Week One Done

  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      507
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      200
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      151
    4. 4
      Steven P.
      73
    5. 5
      macoman
      62
    Show More

  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!