A final good bye to Windows


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I really don't want to stop using Win8. But for some reason, I just can't keep it stable enough to run.

Yep. Perfect candidate for a Mac, and steam works on it!

Now you guys are just being mean. Take the Mac and well, use it to wipe your backsides.

I really don't want to stop using Win8. But for some reason, I just can't keep it stable enough to run.

Now you guys are just being mean. Take the Mac and well, use it to wipe your backsides.

wow ...they are just giving you advice. No need to act like a fool. Simply your configuration just sucks. Pathetic if you're struggling to even keep an windows os stable..Better off with a 99$ tablet. Nonetheless good luck!
In the last few years, I have done everything to keep my systems stable and safe. But no matter how hard I try, Windows just cannot be kept stable/safe. Lately, it has just gotten worse. Sure Windows is great for games. No denying that. But with the issues I've been running into lately, it just isn't worth it anymore.

Yeah it's just you. Since Vista I've had 0 viruses, trojans etc etc. The amount of blue screens I've gotten since then are minuscule too, and the vast majority of them were from nVidia on Vista (yay for terrible drivers).

Yes I work super hard making sure my Windows installation works fine, oh wait no I don't. I install / upgrade Windows and then put MSE on it.

your story is a strange, but intriguing none the less.

well, no point of asking you any obvious questions but: OS aside, do you play heavy games on fedora? and if there aren't any games, did you tried "stress test" your system, using reputable benchmark tool?

thanks for the reply.

wow ...they are just giving you advice. No need to act like a fool. Simply your configuration just sucks. Pathetic if you're struggling to even keep an windows os stable..Better off with a 99$ tablet. Nonetheless good luck!

You call that advice? That's more of a threat. Maybe I am pathetic when it comes to Windows. I quit using Windows when win95 was frist released, went to Linux and came back when Win7 was released. So excuse me for not having all the knowledge that everyone else has.

Been running Debian exclusively for years. I have one desktop PC I have stuck in a corner for the off chance that there's some piece of software that absolutely positively has no *nix alternative. I wish you luck with Fedora, I played with it several years ago and really liked it, but eventually just settled on Debian. If Fedora gives you heart-ache, remember that in Linux just about everything can be fixed manually by modifying the right configuration file, and linuxquestions.org and the fedora forums have been very helpful to me in the past. Fedora probably has IRC chat channels like Debian does too. You have tons of support options out there, so good luck!

Depending on the issues you are having, it's either a configuration issue or the user is the problem. Microsoft put Windows releases through so many configurations, hardware and hours apon hours of burning in and use methods to make the OS crash. I'm not saying Windows is perfect but 99% of the issues is either the computer itself or the user.

Maybe you need to buy computers from retailers instead of building it by yourself. Every piece of hardware you put in the computer maybe the best, but you have to know if they are working well with each others or not.

All of the 6 desktops in this house are made, from scratch, by moi. Retail computers, as DELL or HP are a joke...

@OP Glad your moving. I myself am moving, but to Ubuntu. In light of Windows 8, and having so many problems with software screwing up...

Been running Debian exclusively for years. I have one desktop PC I have stuck in a corner for the off chance that there's some piece of software that absolutely positively has no *nix alternative. I wish you luck with Fedora, I played with it several years ago and really liked it, but eventually just settled on Debian. If Fedora gives you heart-ache, remember that in Linux just about everything can be fixed manually by modifying the right configuration file, and linuxquestions.org and the fedora forums have been very helpful to me in the past. Fedora probably has IRC chat channels like Debian does too. You have tons of support options out there, so good luck!

Been running Fedora for years now. I love it. But I also love playing my games. Which I can't do in Fedora. Hopefully Steam comes quick for Linux.

Good for you. Use what makes you happy and gives you the least problems. Congrats! (Y)

edit: not being sarcastic either. Linux runs really well on some of my systems too whereas windows is like meh....

I'm thinking it really has to do with your hardware. But I have a feeling you went messing around with settings and internal windows files. Nobody I know IRL or here on Neowin has ever had issues this bad in such a short time frame...Have you called or attempted to take/talk to this "reputable retailer"?

My pc I bought from gateway to replace the old 433 celeron, it ran XP with no problems...current system I got in 2006-07 don't remember, came with Vista HP updated to W7 Ultimate in 2009, also have Win 8 partitioned. Your system seems to be newer then mine and I have ZERO problems with 7 or 8.

But could you please post the issues and your hardware specs mfg. name etc

dude you must be joking right? I have Windows 7 on my gaming rig, Windows 8 on my laptop and I have absolutely zero antivirus, antispyware, none of that garbage and I have yet to see a virus - but of course, I use common sense (no porn sites, no poker/game sites, etc)

I have never had Windows give me any of the errors and horror stories you are describing so there must be something seriously with your Windows setup or your rig.

I didn't know viruses and spyware just show up and let you know they are around. How nice of them.

Been running Fedora for years now. I love it. But I also love playing my games. Which I can't do in Fedora. Hopefully Steam comes quick for Linux.

Steam client can be run in playitonlinux perfectly. As for the games, not sure.

I can't really recommend Linux, unless you are cheap/poor/student. Mac is a better choice.

Because you never tried Linux, right?

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I didn't know viruses and spyware just show up and let you know they are around. How nice of them.

No Mr. Clown, but if you use common sense, you should know how to avoid them and therefore prevent infection. Also, there are plenty of tools out there to scan your computer and make sure its clean, which I use.

Steam client can be run in playitonlinux perfectly. As for the games, not sure.

Skyrim and New Vegas have issues running under Steam on Linux.

WTF? How are you having this many issues with your system!?

No idea. I wished I did.

I've gotten all my systems from them in the past. Never any issues. Everyone keeps saying it's my configuration. How could that be?

My systems specs:

AMD Phenom II 970 BE

Mushkin 1600 DDR3 16gigs

Asus M5A97 mobo

nVidia GeForce GTX 560ti

ThermalTake TR-800

How can the config be wrong?

Well you do have an AMD chip in there. What kind of ethernet cable do you have? That might be the problem right there.

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