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Anibal P

It's already been done. There was a conversion from Mayan to Gregorian calendar and that date came to be Dec 21st. Leap days have already been accounted for.

Did they also factor in the few years lost between all the conversion from one calendar to another, and from Popes and kings "adjusting the calendar to suit their needs?

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Astra.Xtreme

ok then, tell me, didn't some scientists find a larger Mayan calendar? or was my friend pulling my leg on that one too? (this is what i get for not doing my own research on it :pinch: )

I think the Mayans had 3 different calenders, but the one that created the whole "end of the world" conspiracy was their Long Count calender.

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Nothing Here

Holy conspiracies Batman! If the world ends, it ends. If it doesn't. Then it doesn't. Who really cares anymore?

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Astra.Xtreme

Did they also factor in the few years lost between all the conversion from one calendar to another, and from Popes and kings "adjusting the calendar to suit their needs?

They used a conversation called the "GMT Constant". Not really sure what it entails, but I'm sure the people involved with the conversation wouldn't forget about the bigger details like that. There are fine details involving Venus or something that some people disputed on, but most scientists believe the 12/21 date to be true.

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redfish

I'd argue its healthy for people to think about their own death, especially at that age when their life is ahead of them; it helps keep things in perspective. Depression can also be healthy.

The problem here is with the people who actually take seriously the idea that the world is going to end because the Mayan calendar predicts it. I'd guess they have emotional problems other than simply being depressed.

I have no problem with NASA debunking these things, maybe helping some people out, its just weird that it has to be a priority at all.

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LaP

Do you think that the calendar literally says Dec. 21, 2012??.

rofl

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Personally, I'm hoping for zombie apocalypse. *fingers crossed*

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Anibal P

I'd argue its healthy for people to think about their own death, especially at that age when their life is ahead of them; it helps keep things in perspective. Depression can also be healthy.

The problem here is with the people who actually take seriously the idea that the world is going to end because the Mayan calendar predicts it. I'd guess they have emotional problems other than simply being depressed.

I have no problem with NASA debunking these things, maybe helping some people out, its just weird that it has to be a priority at all.

It needed debunking, it took a huge leap of faith to go from end of Mayan Greater Calendar Cycle to "zomg end of the world!!!!!!!!!!'"

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oliver182

I'd argue its healthy for people to think about their own death, especially at that age when their life is ahead of them; it helps keep things in perspective. Depression can also be healthy.

The problem here is with the people who actually take seriously the idea that the world is going to end because the Mayan calendar predicts it. I'd guess they have emotional problems other than simply being depressed.

I have no problem with NASA debunking these things, maybe helping some people out, its just weird that it has to be a priority at all.

The problem is that the Mayans didn't predict anything. It just marks the end of a cycle, like any other calendar does. It just got blow out of proportion by the media.

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thejohnnyq

people seem to forget the fact that that date on the mayan calendar would have technically happened around March of this year because of leap year that we added in that the mayans didn't do on their calendar

Guess your math is a little off?

They forgot .25 days (about) from the start of their calendar, so that is almost 1281.5 days or 3 years and 6 months off.

Lets not also remember that they "predicted solar events" that had to be translated from their dates to ours, and map out lunar events and planet movments.

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Ambroos

There is no evidence that the Mayans didn't believe that after this era there wouldn't be another. They just thought it signifies a sort of major advance in human consciousness or something similar. And I sort of believe that is already happening. With the openness of information right now, all the protests, the Arab Spring, ... we could just be transitioning to a new type of civilization that is based on real equality and honesty.

Or well, at least I can dream about that.

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neo1911

Did Mayans account for Leap year days? Then 21 Dec may have gone past already.

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Astra.Xtreme

Did Mayans account for Leap year days? Then 21 Dec may have gone past already.

Yes. This has been explained in the previous page of this discussion.

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LaP

The problem is that the Mayans didn't predict anything. It just marks the end of a cycle, like any other calendar does. It just got blow out of proportion by the media.

But why do you assume the new cycle will be exactly like the previous one?

I mean the end of this cycle might very well be the end of the life as we know it.

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oliver182

But why do you assume the new cycle will be exactly like the previous one?

I mean the end of this cycle might very well be the end of the life as we know it.

It didn't end on the last cycles, why would it now?

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Ambroos

It didn't end on the last cycles, why would it now?

People think that because the mayas only made them for 13 cycles, and this is the end of those 13. It's be like saying the world will end on december 31 2099 according to Microsoft because Windows doesn't support any dates past that. Sort of, on a different scale obviously. But just because nobody's made a calendar for it doesn't mean it won't be there.

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Hum

Thank god Microsoft doesn't control the calender. :s

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Ambroos

Thank god Microsoft doesn't control the calender. :s

:p Or Google. There wouldn't be a Christmas, can you imagine that?

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PmRd

The world will end on december 31st because our calendar stops there.

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1. In Mayan culture, a big celebration is held when the end of the calender is reached. In no way has it anything to do with the world coming to an end.

2. Different Mayan groups each had their own calender (ending at different times).

3. If you ask a Mayan what they think of the world ending on the 21st, they will think you're crazy.

Do your research people! The media won't. All they care about is $$$ and brainwashing people.

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Growled

^ All too true.

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soniqstylz

people seem to forget the fact that that date on the mayan calendar would have technically happened around March of this year because of leap year that we added in that the mayans didn't do on their calendar

Too bad you're pulling that out of your ass.

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exotoxic
I wonder how many idiots are going to commit suicide on the 21st.

What you should be worried about is how many people are going to go on shooting rampages believing they have nothing to lose. :p

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If it doesn't happen on Dec 21st, we will only have delayed the inevitable. The cycle must continue! Prepare yourselves for the Arrival...

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Noir Angel

We haven't achieved space travel as of yet, the reapers would leave us alone :D

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