official Apple WWDC 2013 Discussion Thread

[Quillz]

How do I change Siri's voice to male, any clues?

I'd like to know this, too. May not be possible in the beta.

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

Right, Mavericks is a stupid name (But I like the OS improvements, coalescing kernel timers is awesome), iOS 7 is let down by the horrible interface, and it's a shame there was no MBP refresh.

That's my view of it anyway.

[neeldenn]

But since its a beta, the design is a work in progress. I think the UI is still facing some changes in the upcoming beta's

[.Neo]

You might want to read through the release notes before asking.

Haven't had the time for that. I do hope you can forgive me.

[Hurmoth]

But since its a beta, the design is a work in progress. I think the UI is still facing some changes in the upcoming beta's

According to TNW's sources, the UI is very much in flux: "Panzarino alleges that iOS 7 is still apparently very much a work in progress, and the version we saw this week at WWDC was nothing more than a "mid-stride" look at where Ive and his team are going. According to The Next Web, everything from the up arrow on the lock screen to various app icons is still open to adjustment before the OS comes out this fall."

More: http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/12/4424582/ios-7-reportedly-still-a-work-in-progress

[Quillz]

Like I said earlier, I'd be very surprised if the "signal strength dots" make it into even the next beta. That's probably the poorest UI change I can see right now. I also think they might bring back some kind of visual cue about which way to slide when it comes to unlocking the phone. It makes sense if you've used an iPhone before, but if you're new to the platform, you might swipe another direction and either get no response or bring up one of the popover panels.

[Florals]

I (quite controversially, apparently) like iOS7. It's obviously still a beta so it's not perfect, and in every iOS so far there have been aesthetic issues that I didn't like, but for me I think the improvements counteract anything I'm displeased by. I think the control centre will make life a lot easier, as I seem to spend about 60% of my time on my iPhone changing things in settings. I'd like to see how it is in the iPad, because I'm not sure how those flat icons would scale up onto a bigger screen.

I really like the look of Mavericks (wish it had been called Sea Lion, though). Tabbed finder is probably the one feature that will increase my quality of life, because I do seem to find myself getting quite frustrated with the fifteen thousand finder windows that always seem to be cluttering my screen. The new calendar looks good too - glad they've banished that horrible leather, it gave me the creeps. Really looking forward to this update; I'm still running Snow Leopard, and it's the only OS X update so far that has prompted me to consider getting a new Mac.

Slightly disappointed by the hardware reveals; at the time I was hoping for a retina MacBook Air, but since then I've come to the realisation that one wouldn't currently be feasible. The MBA is more of an entry machine than the rMBP - putting a retina display in the MBA would drastically increase the price, and you'd end up with two different models that had very little to differentiate between the two. The battery life on the MBA is really impressive, and it's nice to see that they haven't been exaggerating those claims - it really does last that long! I'm currently still running an early 2006 Core Duo Mac Mini (yes, lets all laugh at the poor person) and I think I'm probably going to finally retire it and buy a MBA. Worryingly, I've heard some people saying that their 2012 MBAs are actually faster than the new 2013, which is making me consider the (somewhat overpriced) i7 upgrade. Does anyone on here have any experience of these machines? I've seen the benchmarks, but they don't always translate into distinct differences when using the machine. The new Mac Pro is a thing of beauty, but it's quite a niche product so I don't think it really got the general public that excited.

Aaaaaaand congratulations if you made it through that 'cool story bro' of a post.

[DeadEndAccount]

According to TNW's sources, the UI is very much in flux: "Panzarino alleges that iOS 7 is still apparently very much a work in progress, and the version we saw this week at WWDC was nothing more than a "mid-stride" look at where Ive and his team are going. According to The Next Web, everything from the up arrow on the lock screen to various app icons is still open to adjustment before the OS comes out this fall."

More: http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/12/4424582/ios-7-reportedly-still-a-work-in-progress

 

That really isn't surprising given that they have a lot of time up their sleeve to make changes where as the only thing missing in OS X at this moment are some bug fixes and removing the skeumorphism from Photo Booth before it ships. By the time iOS 7 comes out I wouldn't be surprised if they have a 10.9.1 update by that time along with an updated iTunes.

[PyX]

I'm so comforted by this article, it seems like a lot of teams will get shaken in the coming weeks. From what I read on the articles, this is not good looking for iOS 7 so far.

[vhane]

After one week of using iOS 7, I actually like the new design much better than iOS 6. Sure, there are some rough edges here and there, but iOS 6 was pretty much stale all over. I think that the new design is a step in the right direction.

 

As an iOS developer, here's how I think about this:

 

Starting with the default iOS 6 controls, it's much harder to build a good looking app than starting with the iOS 7 controls. Using the former, you'd basically customise everything. Using the latter, I'm actually quite happy to use the default controls and let the content be the focus of my app design.

[SMELTN]

I installed it the first night and have made myself stay on it, instead of dropping back down to 6.1.3 like some others, and I must say now that I have used it since then, I am really pleased overall. 

[Chicane-UK Veteran]

Anyone running IOS7 on an iPhone 4? How's it running performance wise? 

[PyX]

Starting with the default iOS 6 controls, it's much harder to build a good looking app than starting with the iOS 7 controls. Using the former, you'd basically customise everything. Using the latter, I'm actually quite happy to use the default controls and let the content be the focus of my app design.

 

I got it the opposite :

With iOS6, if you want a nice app, you can keep the default controls and it'll do a perfect job out of the box.

With iOS7, if you want a rich, vivid app, you need to customize everything.

Anyone running IOS7 on an iPhone 4? How's it running performance wise? 

 

I get a lot of crashes and hangs on my iPhone 5 (especially the Music App and Siri doesn't work half of the time). I wouldn't recommend it to an iPhone 4 yet. Wait until the beta 2 or 3 at least.

[Chicane-UK Veteran]

I get a lot of crashes and hangs on my iPhone 5 (especially the Music App and Siri doesn't work half of the time). I wouldn't recommend it to an iPhone 4 yet. Wait until the beta 2 or 3 at least.

 

Thanks! Will leave it alone for now then! :) 

[SMELTN]

so Apple usually releases updates to these within a 2 week period.. Anyone hearing any rumblings of a beta update? 

[vhane]

I got it the opposite :

With iOS6, if you want a nice app, you can keep the default controls and it'll do a perfect job out of the box.

With iOS7, if you want a rich, vivid app, you need to customize everything.

From a usability point of view, the default controls in iOS 6 will do a fine job. However, if you want your app to succeed, you're aiming for more than just good usability. You are also looking to add personality to your app. And iOS 6 controls have their own, fairly overbearing personality. They are graphically heavy. Try to make an iOS 6 UIPickerView blend into any look other than 3D looking, bevelled and shiny and let me know how you go. The design world has moved on since the original introduction of the iPhone. Sure, one can rail against the constant churn of design trends, but this is the reality that developers are faced with. So currently, developers customise every single control in their app. Usually to tone it down.

 

Controls in iOS 7 are less graphical and less obnoxious. You could get away with customising their colour (trivial to do) and let your content, transitions and animations be the focus of your app's personality. The more minimal look is more flexible. It's a more forgiving foundation on which to build your own designs.

[Quillz]

iOS 7 Beta 2 is now available OTA.

[+Frank B. Subscriber²]

iOS 7 Beta 2 is now available OTA.

 

It comes with iPad support too: Apple Seeds iOS 7 Beta 2 to Developers with iPad Support

[SMELTN]

I am trying to decide if I want to put it on my Mini or not.. What do you guys think? My mini is jailbroken, but honestly I am finding I really don't do anything with it being jailbroken on the mini. I had more tweaks installed on the iPhone not the iPad Mini. 

[Quillz]

I am trying to decide if I want to put it on my Mini or not.. What do you guys think? My mini is jailbroken, but honestly I am finding I really don't do anything with it being jailbroken on the mini. I had more tweaks installed on the iPhone not the iPad Mini.

Couldn't hurt to try. You can always revert.

[neeldenn]

I wanna know about the battery life

[Brian M. Veteran]

Just run a drain test on my development iPhone 5 which has a brand new battery pretty much (it's plugged in 24/7) - 23% longer than beta 1 under full load.

[SMELTN]

Couldn't hurt to try. You can always revert.

Just run a drain test on my development iPhone 5 which has a brand new battery pretty much (it's plugged in 24/7) - 23% longer than beta 1 under full load.

Just run a drain test on my development iPhone 5 which has a brand new battery pretty much (it's plugged in 24/7) - 23% longer than beta 1 under full load.

Fantastic!

Couldn't hurt to try. You can always revert.

I just can't revert the jailbreak.

Btw can we install this version without a dev account like you could with beta 1. ?

Someone here was so kind and added me to his dev account so I can get it on my iPhone 5 and I don't want to ask for another spot for my iPad mini

[neeldenn]

As far as I can tell, battery life improved! (Only have it installed since this afternoon) But I had it on standby from 5pm till 9pm and lost about 7%.

 

When I used to be on iOS6 the iPhone used to display LTE connectivity when available, even If I didn't have LTE included in my contract. Now it only displays what your connected to. (3G/4G/LTE and so on)

 

What I also didn't knew: When you double tap a CD Art Cover in iTunes it shows the whole album (Pretty nice feature for iTunes Match users)

 

Speaking of iTunes Match, there is still a button missing that lets you download a whole playlist at once.

 

But as far as I can tell, it's much more stable than Beta 1 :)

 

Just the few bits I was able to find out today.

[PyX]

For those wondering :

• A lot of bugs have been fixed.
• They have done a lot of progress regarding the French localization (the one I'm using).
• Only tiny little details have been fixed regarding the design, nothing too noticeable. We'll let them time for Beta 3 instead. Could be long to redesign a lot of icons and interface elements and whatnot.
• Voice memos are back and I gotta love the fact that we can see the sound waves when cropping, especially when it zooms for more precision.
• The ".com" button in the unified Search/Address field in Safari still gets hit when I really want to press the Spacebar. This hasn't been re-thought yet, but I do hope something will happen regarding this. Don't have a solution in my head though.

I'm now a paid Developer, took me a while to understand how to register a device on Apple's site. It was especially hard to get the UDID of my device when I had Beta 2 installed on it and I couldn't do anything except looking at my phone, because it wasn't activated.  :/ Luckily, the folder name of my iTunes backup had it - even though it really wasn't obvious how to get it on first thought.

 

Great, great article sums it up here :

http://www.macrumors.com/2013/06/24/ios-7-beta-2-tidbits-new-welcome-screen-updated-siri-voices-icloud-fixes-voice-memos-app/