'Back by popular demand.': HP goes back to Windows 7


Recommended Posts

I've not seen anything about this "war" other than HP moving towards Android devices while also pointing out that Microsoft moving in to hardware makes them competitors, but since I can't find any specific mention about why they have made this decision, your guess is as good as mine. Personally I would consider it more of a business move than an act of agression. Offer Windows 7 as well as Windows 8 to cater to your customer's wants.

EDIT: I should probably reword that last bit as you're not saying that HP have done this as an act of agression, you're saying that they are going back on their plans with Android. But still, I may as well leave it.

 

What i'm saying is its not a windows 8 thing. that's the excuse people can use,but I don't believe it has anything to do with consumer OS choice. it has more to do with Microsoft making hardware,and Microsoft potentially stealing their corporate customers. So HP must do something to hurt Microsoft, maybe get them to back off. Their chromebook/android stuff is probably not selling as well as they would have hoped, so they resort to this other tactic, by trying to hurt the adoption of the new OS.

 

I bet HP would feel quite silly if they knew W7 is a MS product.. They need new strategists, like those scroogled guys. They're brilliant!

HPs pc business would be dead if they didn't sell any pcs with windows. Selling an older version of windows hurts the adoption of the new OS,and in turn hurts MS's business.

I bet HP would feel quite silly if they knew W7 is a MS product.. They need new strategists, like those scroogled guys. They're brilliant!

 

Yep, HP is sure sticking it to Microsoft by continuing to buy all those Win 7 licenses from them! Couldn't possibly have anything to do with demand for Windows 8 being absolutely non-existant, we all know Windows 8 is a huge success and loved by all :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

HPs pc business would be dead if they didn't sell any pcs with windows. Selling an older version of windows hurts the adoption of the new OS,and in turn hurts MS's business.

Ah.. how did I not see this before, those cunning bastards. I bet they'll undermine W9 by offering W8 as option too. Clever girl, I mean HP.

 

Seriously though, why do you get your knickers in a twist about offering the consumer a choice? Were you the guy that said he gets 3000$ or 4000$ a month from the store a while back?

excellent article from gizmodo. finally someone in the tech media gets it.

 

Dear HP: Running From the Future Doesn't Help Anyone

http://gizmodo.com/dear-hp-running-from-the-future-doesnt-help-anyone-1505017762

 

Windows 8 hate is outdated

HP's big Windows 7 push feeds on?and perpetuates?the worst kind of cursory Windows 8 hate. Hate that's uninformed, off-the-cuff. Hate that's outdated. Windows 8 launched with its issues, among them the lack of any built-in help for the legions of unwitting users blind-sided by live tiles. It wasn't a great launch.

But the days when Windows 8 was kinda busted are over, to whatever extent they were happening in the first place. The biggest barrier to Windows 8-entry has always been confusion, and Windows 8.1 fixed so many of the little things that made an already tough transition rougher, from the lack of tutorials to tiny-but-crucial UI tweaks. Windows 8, today, is both good and accessible.

Windows 8 isn't going away

This isn't the first time hardware manufacturers have tried to pull this kind of OS switcheroo. Sales of Windows XP computers jumped up during the dark days of Vista. Except Vista eventually disappeared, and Windows 8?or more specifically, Windows 8's tiled interface?isn't going to.

Its name might change, and its successor might already be on the way, but Windows 8 is a transition that there's no going back from, no matter what "Windows 9" might bring. Modern-style apps and touchscreen friendly UI aren't just phases desktop computing is going through, they're the effect of a radical restructuring of what using a computer means. A restructuring that's outside of any one company's control.

Clinging to the old guard is just delaying the inevitable. It also ensures that everyone who's trying to run from the future is only going to be even more hopelessly behind when stalling isn't an option anymore.

Really HP? Come on.

But more than anything it's just a lame move, and one that's disappointing to see from a company that has every reason roll up its sleeves and dive head-first into whatever the future might hold. HP has yet to produce a great phone or tablet, took webOS and drove it straight into the ground, and has a software strategy that seems to involve trying to make bloatware cool through sheer force of will. Likewise, running screaming back to Windows 7 to hold on for dear life is something that's doomed to fail sooner or later. We reached out to HP to see if maybe there's a more optimistic take, but so far no response.

If Windows 8 is really a problem, maybe make a point of helping users cope instead of helping them cower and hide with a plan that?at best?offers temporary comfort. This touchscreen, convertible, tablet-ized moment in desktop history can be scary, sure, but HP should know the score. Playing make-believe isn't a solution. Trying to make the best out of what's coming at least has a chance of being one.

So please HP, don't be an enabler. Or if you're going to retreat, at least pick a route that's not a total dead end.

  • Like 2

Makes sense to put a desktop os onto a desktop pc/laptop. Maybe if enough of this happens it'll tell microsoft to leave tablet things on tablets.

  • Like 3

turns out, its just a marketing gimmick.

HP bringing back Windows 7 PCs? Not so fast...

This morning's tech news headlines are breathlessly reporting that HP is bringing back Windows 7 "by popular demand." The facts say otherwise: HP never stopped selling Windows 7 PCs, and it's actually selling fewer Windows 7 models today than it did last summer.

http://www.zdnet.com/hp-bringing-back-windows-7-pcs-not-so-fast-7000025351/
This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Posts

    • I think it depends on what you're looking for to do, and the time you have to spare. With my Dwarf 3, I easily spend 3-4 hour sessions; half an hour driving to an un-light polluted place, another half hour unpacking and setting up the smart scope + tripod for equatorial tracking, then 15 more minutes mucking around with settings and shooting calibration frames, spending a few hours shooting, merging with past photo sessions, etc. It's crazy how time flies and I often get home later than I expected. It's something I still need to set aside a good part of an evening to do, all in all. For one session, where you often need like four for best results when it comes to deep space objects. Even with a smart scope like Dwarf 3, regular non-astro photography is still way more approachable to people getting into photography. I find this is a time consuming niche no matter how I go about it. With practice, I can probably begin cutting time here but I think where smart scopes find their home is among people who love to shoot the night sky but don't have the spare time to go deep with the "navigator level" attunement to the night sky itself in addition to everything else. Having said this, _if_ you have even more time to spend on this hobby, it will probably be even more rewarding to do it more by hand and learn the skies and the details of how it all works.
    • I misread the title and thought Teams itself would be redesigned. Imagine having this one as a native WinUI app.
    • Dell, HP PCs ran into endless reboot, BitLocker recovery loops but Windows 11 isn't to blame by Sayan Sen Last month Neowin reported on a major issue on Dell systems wherein a bug in its official support tool was leading to endless blue screen of death (BSOD) and restarts. Following our report, Dell officially acknowledged its SupportAssist-related crash issue, confirming that the culprit is not Microsoft's operating system but rather a faulty version of its own remediation software. In a newly published support advisory, Dell stated that version 5.5.16.0 of Dell SupportAssist Remediation and Alienware SupportAssist Remediation can trigger blue screen errors and unexpected system restarts. The company notes that the problematic component operates independently of the main SupportAssist application, meaning users should not remove the primary SupportAssist software when troubleshooting the issue. According to Dell, the crashes are linked specifically to the SupportAssist Remediation service, which is bundled with SupportAssist OS Recovery Tools, and as such it has since released an updated version, 5.5.16.1, which is said to resolve the problem. Affected users are advised to first verify whether version 5.5.16.0 is installed by checking the Installed Apps section in Windows Settings. If so, Dell recommends updating SupportAssist OS Recovery Tools through either SupportAssist's "Update Software" feature or Dell Command Update. Dell also advises users to back up important data before performing the update and to ensure systems remain connected to power throughout the installation process. If you are still having issues though make sure to report to the Dell support forum. As it turns out though Dell is not the only PC maker currently dealing with update-related headaches as HP is also facing a separate but probably equally frustrating issue involving recent Windows Secure Boot updates that were released with recent Windows 11 Patch Tuesdays. Similar to Dell, HP also put up its own support article where it explains the issue. The company says that affected devices could hit a brick wall when booting as they run into a BitLocker recovery loop after the April 2026 updates. The problem appears to affect systems wherein the new UEFI Secure Boot CA 2023 certificates fail to apply properly. As such affected users will find themselves entering their recovery key over and over again despite the system otherwise functioning normally. HP says such PCs should be updated to the latest available BIOS version and configured with the necessary Secure Boot certificates before installing Microsoft's Windows 11 Patch Tuesday updates. Systems that are already experiencing the problem may require BIOS configuration changes to restore normal boot behavior. Admins can find information regarding that in the support article here on HP's official website.
    • Getting further away from the artistic study of mental disease that was the first game... (which never needed any sequels to begin with) But I get it, a company has to make money. And the second was at least visually impressive, if not in any other way.
    • If its the devs fault you would think Unreal would help M$ take full advantage of Unreal and work with them to fix the performance issues. Otherwise they are catching unwarranted bad press.
  • Recent Achievements

    • One Month Later
      DJC50PLUS earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • Week One Done
      DJC50PLUS earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Proficient
      Eric Biran went up a rank
      Proficient
    • Dedicated
      Conjor earned a badge
      Dedicated
    • Week One Done
      Windows Guy earned a badge
      Week One Done
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      493
    2. 2
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      246
    3. 3
      Steven P.
      72
    4. 4
      +Edouard
      69
    5. 5
      neufuse
      68
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!