dc Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)

[LOC Veteran]

Wow, it literally IS out of an Arkham game. Jesus, I mean if they are gonna steal stuff may as well steal from the best (cept the last one amirite?) and put it in the movie!

[George P Global Moderator]

This is how batman should be, the final full trailer with the fight scene was perfect. Sorry Nolan fans but the fights in his version of batman was weak.

[McCordRm]

I was already hyped for this movie.

But now... that look on Superman's face at the end of the trailer... good god I want to own this movie already.

[DocM]

MPAA has announced that the 'Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice' home video Ultimate Edition (Director's Cut)  will be rated R.

 

http://variety.com/2016/film/news/batman-v-superman-r-rating-directors-cut-1201714130/

 

 

Edited February 25, 2016 by DocM

[LOC Veteran]

Whoa, that was unexpected. Nice.

[George P Global Moderator]

That makes the best sense though, I mean it's smart to go with PG-13 in the theaters to maximize box office returns and slip the R rated version in for the adults who are the ones buying the Blu-ray versions of movies anyways, kids don't bother with this anymore, they'd just stream it off of whatever service has it.

[McCordRm]

I was having this discussion with some friends on Facebook.

I'm REALLY torn about it. 

 

In one hand, I'm loving the gritty feel we're getting with some of the stories. You expect Batman, The Punisher, and (obviously) Deadpool to be wicked violent so an R-Rating seems appropriate to give fans the violence they're expecting.

 

But on the other hand... Superman? The DC version of Captain America? Mr. Truth, Justice, the American Way, and Watch Your Language, Lois? Should he ever be R-rated? The first Superman movie in this new universe took me by surprise at the end. Not because it's unrealistic that Superman would find himself with that choice to make, but that the writers gave him that choice. The last Rambo movie had some do-gooders travel to a violent part of the world where they wanted to make a stand against violence. One of them finds himself with a life-or-death situation and ends up killing a bad guy. So yea, point made. But it was a Rambo movie, exactly where you make that kind of point. Superman isn't supposed to represent that (in my opinion, at least). He's the guy that always finds another way, that always (somehow) finds a way to stay upbeat and squeaky clean. The bottom line being: yes, you can write those stories because those situation are realistic, but this is fantasy which means you just don't for the sake of what that character stands for. Save those scenarios for the "alternate universe" comics that are known for shaking things up. But for the mainstream, keep Superman the one ultra do-gooder, can't do no wrong, always on the side of right, hero.

[+Warwagon MVC]

There was really no reason to show wonder Woman in this or any other trailer. They should have kept her a secrete. I just think back to the "Tomorrow Land Teaser" ... and how excited I got from how little they showed us.

[JenZen]

I'm not really a fan of Batman but I'm intrigue with a movie having them both ( Batman VS Superman) . Though maybe, I would like Superman more. 

[LOC Veteran]

 

8 hours ago, McCordRm said:

I was having this discussion with some friends on Facebook.

I'm REALLY torn about it. 

 

In one hand, I'm loving the gritty feel we're getting with some of the stories. You expect Batman, The Punisher, and (obviously) Deadpool to be wicked violent so an R-Rating seems appropriate to give fans the violence they're expecting.

 

But on the other hand... Superman? The DC version of Captain America? Mr. Truth, Justice, the American Way, and Watch Your Language, Lois? Should he ever be R-rated? The first Superman movie in this new universe took me by surprise at the end. Not because it's unrealistic that Superman would find himself with that choice to make, but that the writers gave him that choice. The last Rambo movie had some do-gooders travel to a violent part of the world where they wanted to make a stand against violence. One of them finds himself with a life-or-death situation and ends up killing a bad guy. So yea, point made. But it was a Rambo movie, exactly where you make that kind of point. Superman isn't supposed to represent that (in my opinion, at least). He's the guy that always finds another way, that always (somehow) finds a way to stay upbeat and squeaky clean. The bottom line being: yes, you can write those stories because those situation are realistic, but this is fantasy which means you just don't for the sake of what that character stands for. Save those scenarios for the "alternate universe" comics that are known for shaking things up. But for the mainstream, keep Superman the one ultra do-gooder, can't do no wrong, always on the side of right, hero.

Shouldn't it be that Marvel has a version of Superman since Superman came sometime before Cap? Just saying

 

And I'm really not happy with this gritty "realistic" stuff DC and WB are doing with their movieverse. I mean, I get it, they want to be different than Marvel. But come on. Superman? Snapping necks and killing people. Yes he shouldn't  have been put in that position to begin with. But I also feel its the whole "ugh everyone thinks Superman sucks or that he's boring because he's so hard to write for" (which is a ###### excuse, if you are a good writer, no character is boring) so they are trying to avoid that by having Superman be all emo and kill people. Or at least, killed a person. But let's be honest, Superman has killed in the comics plenty. Just not so avertly in your face like in MoS.

 

In any event, I am looking forward to the movie bigtime. Even though some advanced screenings apparently - didn't have a very good word of mouth. (Note: they didn't say it was bad, just to long and to confusing apparently)

[George P Global Moderator]

The more "realistic" version of batman is gone with Nolan, just look at the fight in the final trailer, that's not "real" batman, that's comic book and videogame batman. Let's not mix being gritty with being real, if anything batman should be on the darker side of things, and it can have a R version with a bit more added to the fights, like batman breaking some arms and legs, etc.

[Circaflex]

5 minutes ago, George P said:

The more "realistic" version of batman is gone with Nolan, just look at the fight in the final trailer, that's not "real" batman, that's comic book and videogame batman. Let's not mix being gritty with being real, if anything batman should be on the darker side of things, and it can have a R version with a bit more added to the fights, like batman breaking some arms and legs, etc.

Which fight are you talking about in that trailer? Where he stops sups punch?

[LOC Veteran]

18 minutes ago, Circaflex said:

Which fight are you talking about in that trailer? Where he stops sups punch?

No he's talking about Batman literally going Arkham beating up like 8 dudes easily.

 

And let's be clear - just because Nolan's Batman universe is over (until that big pay day comes I'm sure) doesn't mean the gritty realistic Batman is gone. Just because he's fighting 10 guys and easily beating them down doesn't mean they aren't making the entire movie more grounded etc. I mean, it's not Batman 89 or (thankfully) Batman and Robin cheesefest levels. But its still way more realistic and gritty than anything else Marvel is doing. Other than Deadpool which isn't even Marvel itself.

[George P Global Moderator]

I don't see how this is any more grounded than Marvels stuff, i'd say that they're both pretty close to the source material now. Nolen level of real world are far off from these new batch of movies, for starters you have superman AND WW in them, so there's your alien and supernatural/magical elements that you'd never have seen in the Nolanverse.

 

Anyways, this is going to be a great movie, can't wait to see it.

[DConnell Member]

12 hours ago, George P said:

The more "realistic" version of batman is gone with Nolan, just look at the fight in the final trailer, that's not "real" batman, that's comic book and videogame batman. Let's not mix being gritty with being real, if anything batman should be on the darker side of things, and it can have a R version with a bit more added to the fights, like batman breaking some arms and legs, etc.

The "real" Batman you say?

 

For me that's

 

 

or

 

 

or maybe the Brave & the Bold Batman.

 

 

None of the others really capture the character (disparate as the interpretations were, they were still the same character at heart), realistic take or not. I'm open to the new version, because I care about a real Batman, rather than a real Batman. If that makes any sense - realistic doesn't matter to me; true to the character does.

[DocM]

On 2/25/2016 at 5:03 PM, McCordRm said:

I was having this discussion with some friends on Facebook.

 

I'm REALLY torn about it. 

 

In one hand, I'm loving the gritty feel we're getting with some of the stories. You expect Batman, The Punisher, and (obviously) Deadpool to be wicked violent so an R-Rating seems appropriate to give fans the violence they're expecting.

 

But on the other hand... Superman? 

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Superman has killed in the comics. In Superman #22 "The Price" he traveled to the Pocket Universe and ended up executing its versions of General Zod, Zaora and Quex-Ul with Kryptonite. As she dies, Zaora offers him pleasures he has never dreamed if he'll stop, but Superman doesn't relent. 

 

Canon for over 20 years.

 

Edited February 28, 2016 by DocM

[Thomas the Tank Engine]

On 2016-02-26 at 11:24 AM, DConnell said:

The "real" Batman you say?

 

For me that's

 

 

 

For me, that's:

 

1943, which introduced the Batcave (which wasn't in the comics until after this came out) & skinny Alfred (he was fat in the comics until after this came out):

 

 

And:

 

1949:

 

[LOC Veteran]

Oh my lord, I haven't seen those pictures for over 30 years! I remember reading about that in a bi-annual I picked up back in like 85 or something.

[DConnell Member]

Rifftrax did the entire second serial, available on their website. It's silly fun already, but the Riffs make it gold!

[BinaryData]

I originally thought this would be garbage, and not live up to the hype. I won't lie, it looks pretty awesome. Though, after Deadpool, it should've been R Rated. I want to see "Wonder Woman" is it, naked.

[Innervisions33]

There's new footage that was released over the weekend.  Yum.

[Lamp0]

On 28/2/2016 at 5:29 AM, Thomas the Tank Engine said:

 

For me, that's:

 

1943, which introduced the Batcave (which wasn't in the comics until after this came out) & skinny Alfred (he was fat in the comics until after this came out):

 

 

And:

 

1949:

 

They should go back to this look, but make the narrative modern & "dark".

[Adam1V]

best look imo;

 

[FloatingFatMan]

On 2/28/2016 at 5:29 AM, Thomas the Tank Engine said:

 

For me, that's:

 

1943, which introduced the Batcave (which wasn't in the comics until after this came out) & skinny Alfred (he was fat in the comics until after this came out):

 

 

And:

 

1949:

 

Is that Batman, or Fatman?

 

[LOC Veteran]

Well that was long before Batman had to be a chiseled man-god of a body type like Superman etc.