[OFFICIAL] Windows 10 Insider Program

[Dot Matrix]

 

Ya, its a bug. I'm having problems syncing my Ms account and cal. 

 

 

 _{tom warren just tweeted this in regards to android apps on wp.} 

 

^{Tom Warren @tomwarren} 

[BajiRav]

Ya, its a bug. I'm having problems syncing my Ms account and cal. 

 

 

 _{tom warren just tweeted this in regards to android apps on wp.} 

 

^{Tom Warren @tomwarren} 

[Ian S.]

Agree that if Android apps coming to Windows that will spell the end of Windows tablets and phones forever. No dev will build a native app if they had the choice android dominates in marketshare.

 

Whose's excited for BUILD?

[freak180]

To me this looks very clean and professional lol

[tompkin]

I think the news is off from Thurrott, there have been other posts that talk about VS2015 allowing you to make a "cross-platform" app that works on Windows AND Android (v4.4 and 5.0) using C++.  I think the goal here is to allow developers to make Android apps in VS as easy as possible and with a simple click you also get a Windows universal app, and since the UI for apps between Windows Phone and Android is pretty much the same, they don't have to do any UI work specifically for WP, which I'm betting few wanted to do.

They need to make that very easy for the developer (perhaps that's the very point of what your saying). Prior to this they had to use something like QT or something like that which, to me, was a PIA unless you had people dedicated to the front end development.

[tompkin]

To me this looks very clean and professional lol

We've come a long way!!!!

 

[nosense]

We've come a long way!!!!

 

Holy crap thats dated and ugly.

Did a clean install of 10074 and bunch of new updates for apps. 

[Studio384]

A little disappointing that there isn't a single change to Project Spartan in this build, through...

[+Zagadka Subscriber²]

I'm pretty comfortable with almost every aspect of Win10 (given in a beta state and needing polishing/completing), and Spartan is the big remaining question for me.

 

Since there is that story about Win10 running Android apps... would we assume that Spartan would also accept existing formats of plugins?

[Ian S.]

Couple of things from this build

 

Control Panel no longer opens when personalizing or changing display settings it is now Settings, plus some links have been removed from the sidebar in Control Panel>>Themes

New icons: http://bav0.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2015/04/10047_icons.zip

New volume control MtcUVC

Battery overview in system tray now shows two buttons brightness and battery saver

[NightmarE D]

2015 and people still care about anything Thurrott posts on the internet?

 

What if they did throw in the ability to run android apps on Windows 10? How exactly would that change the entire OS or hurt the UI? Support for Android apps and suddenly the entire UI is now useless and renders the entire OS garbage? Seriously. Explain this to me.

 

Answer the question: If Microsoft does in fact include SUPPORT for Android apps in Windows 10, how does that hurt the entire OS or even just the UI? You're not forced to suddenly switch to a mixture of UI's or forced to use any Android apps at all. You just simply have a OS that has an OPTION to run Android apps.

 

EDIT: Originally went into a Thurrott rant, but he's just not worth it anymore.

[Ian S.]

2015 and people still care about anything Thurrott posts on the internet?

 

What if they did throw in the ability to run android apps on Windows 10? How exactly would that change the entire OS or hurt the UI? Support for Android apps and suddenly the entire UI is now useless and renders the entire OS garbage? Seriously. Explain this to me.

 

When are some of you people going to realize that Thurrott does this with every new release of Windows and has been doing it for years now? When it gets closer and closer to a release of something and he has jack to report, he starts pulling things out of thin air or takes a small piece of truth and flips it to create a huge load of crap covered in drama.

 

Answer the question: If Microsoft does in fact include SUPPORT for Android apps in Windows 10, how does that hurt the entire OS or even just the UI? You're not forced to suddenly switch to a mixture of UI's or forced to use any Android apps at all. You just simply have a OS that has an OPTION to run Android apps.

 

Come on people it's Thurrott for crying out loud. Right in the second paragraph of his article he says: This is the opposite of what I wanted". Nothing is even confirmed and already he's talking like sees it's not something HE wanted then that's how everyone else should feel. What he wants is all that matters to the world. Bootcamp? Nobody really complained about that. It's rumored Microsoft does something along the same route and it's evil and world ending.

 

I think this just became one of those threads I have to stop reading so I don't post something to get me banned. Some of you just really need to stop believing every single thing you read (especially when it comes form a guy whose credibility took a hit years ago and just gets worse every year) and wait to see what the actual company says. It's called having a little patience.

When has he pulled something like this before? and out of thin air? it's been talked about for awhile. We'll see tomorrow.

[nosense]

I was able to update one app before store beta crash and all the download links where gone. Looks like MS is making a push to make all apps look like the same. 

[George P Global Moderator]

I think all of the core apps will stick with one UI when it's done, for now they decided to try different ones in different apps, see how it worked out and which was better.

[+Zagadka Subscriber²]

Hm, Spartan seems... very spartan. The favorites management doesn't even include import or sync? I would love to be able to test it more, but it doesn't do anything test worthy yet - and what it does do it does poorly.

[tompkin]

In the eve of Build 2015, I would just like to say that whatever is announced about Windows 10 (all form factors) that we can all at least work to a level of acceptance. No one is going to get exactly what they want. There could be some changes after build but if they are going to make a July deadline they are going to have to lock down features pretty quick and concentrate on stabiliy.

If it's too much change too quickly we can always delay making a move to Windows 10 until the dust settles. Choice is good!

[WindowsUser10]

Looks like they still haven't given up on Windows Defender

 

http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-10-build-10074-windows-defender-settings-receive-new-home

 

Maybe they will put a better protection engine this time & make it good like MS Security Essentials used to be back in 2010. That would explain all this work they have been doing on these settings & all..

 

 

 

WZor @WZorNET 

[tompkin]

Hm, Spartan seems... very spartan. The favorites management doesn't even include import or sync? I would love to be able to test it more, but it doesn't do anything test worthy yet - and what it does do it does poorly.

Thank you for sharing this. I assumed import would be there and even sans sync is a deal killer for me. Hopefully it will show up soon.

[+Zagadka Subscriber²]

Yea, it just feels like there is nothing to test. I will upgrade to Win10 regardless, but Spartan is kind of a cornerstone to work from. You'd think they would at least be implementing tests syncing MS accounts (the OS UI does this already)... 

[WindowsUser10]

BTW:- If there is an Android app support coming...wouldn't that mean that Android malware would also start working on Windows PC's & Phones??

[+Zagadka Subscriber²]

BTW:- If there is an Android app support coming...wouldn't that mean that Android malware would also start working on Windows PC's & Phones??

Possibly, but equally possible that the virus scanners most Windows installs run would catch those as well. Android was a target because there was no such barrier on most systems.

[WindowsUser10]

Possibly, but equally possible that the virus scanners most Windows installs run would catch those as well. Android was a target because there was no such barrier on most systems.

Yeah, it's the most popular mobile os..hence, most targeted by malware/hackers

 

but, it would really suck if the users would suddenly have to start using antiviruses on Windows Phones  let's see what MS implements to prevent these issues...

[nosense]

I found a way to update apps,

 

Open the original store app, download the original non beta cal\mail app. Open the old cal\mail app and it should open the store beta and click check updates\download. You should see updates for apps. WARNING YOU NEED TO DOWNLOAD THE APPS ONE BY ONE or it will crash and the update will not show up again. 

 

[BajiRav]

BTW:- If there is an Android app support coming...wouldn't that mean that Android malware would also start working on Windows PC's & Phones??

Not if the apps are sandboxed (they most certainly will be). I wonder if they will run ART/Dalvik in a hyperV partition or container.

[insanelyapple]

I was able to update one app before store beta crash and all the download links where gone. Looks like MS is making a push to make all apps look like the same. 

 

I don't like the idea of hamburger menu within app content - universal button on title bar was IMO better. And I really do hope that app platform will get unified look before RTM build and guidelines will be followed and not changed - like they always liked to do so.