[OFFICIAL] Windows 10 Insider Program

By Ian S.
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  1. 1. On a scale of 1-5, 1 being worst, 5 being best. What do you think of Windows 10 from the leaks so far?

    • 5.Great, best OS ever
      156
    • 4. Pretty Good, needs a lot of minor tweaks
      409
    • 3. OK, Needs a few major improvements, some minor ones
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    • 2. Fine, Needs a lot of major improvements
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    • 1.Poor, Needs too many improvements, all hope is lost, never going to use it
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  2. 2. Based on the recent leaks by Neowin and Winfuture.de, my next OS upgrade will be?

    • Windows 10
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    • Windows 8
      20
    • Windows 7
      48
    • Sticking with XP
      3
    • OSX Yosemite
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    • Linux
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    • Sticking with OSX Mavericks
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  3. 3. Should Microsoft give away Windows 10 for free?

    • Yes for Windows 8.1 Users
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    • Yes for Windows 7 and above users
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    • Yes for Vista and above users
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    • Yes for XP and above users
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    • Yes for all Windows users
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DemonicHawk

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Just updated, someone please tell me I'm not the only one who absolutely hates the new (window + desktop switching) animations.. they're ugly AND they're slow. The animation speed reminds me of the XP days. Having done a good job with animations for the past few releases, I'm astonished they would release something like this.

 

Some other first impressions:

  • How in the world do we distinguish 9860 and 9841 feedback in the Feedback app? For example, there's still a ton of comments on how the new (9841) animation is great. Someone at Microsoft didn't think this though.
  • Very buggy and slow build in general
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Quillz

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I just noticed that, looks like they're working on adding more and more stuff into PC settings, once it has everything, even the more advanced stuff I hope, then they'll probably work control panel out of the OS.  

I hope so. There is no reason for both Control Panel and PC Settings, and the latter is much better from a design standpoint, IMO.

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PGHammer

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Me as well. But once you switch back to desktop mode purple gets restored.

I actually don't mind that - since I dual-boot with 8.1; it lets me keep the two separated in my mind.  (Except for two MMOs, they also run the same software and even have the same wallpaper, so I had better keep them separate until they have a completely common software core.)

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PGHammer

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Horrific reboot times, anyone..? :/

No slower than 9841, which was FASTER than 8.1 update 1 - which is on the same drive's primary partition.  Sorry to disappoint there.

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+Frank B. Subscriber²

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The updated build works fine in a VM for me. Some random thoughts after limited testing last night:

  • The new window animations don't bother me.They're not so distracting that I want to turn them off.
  • Notification centre is obviously still a work in progress. It is a useful addition though.
  • Has anyone discovered keyboard shortcuts to navigate virtual desktops yet? Or to move windows between desktops? 
  • It should be possible to drag windows from one desktop to the other in the desktop switching UI.
  • I agree with what has been stated above - zPC Settings is quite obviously going to be the one Control Panel to rule them all in future versions.
  • When will we see a first IE 12 build?
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rfirth

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I don't know if anybody else noticed this, but zPC Settings seems to be on by default in 9860. It seems like PC settings is going to be a mix between Windows Phone settings, and the control panel. There's also a section for speech.

 

"Windows Defender for great justice!"

 

Do they count as Easter eggs if they are only located in preview builds?

 

Is it a coincidence that Microsoft just disbanded their Trustworthy Computing group a month ago?

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adrynalyne

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Why?  (Yes - I'm "heart-attack" serious.)

 

Is it because we're USED to looking for things there (tradition)?

 

Being as both now display windowed, it certainly isn't about navigation, or even mousability - I have zero issues navigating PC settings with a mouse, and even fewer issues with a trackpad.  (That is, in fact, entirely due to both better support for trackpads in general in the Technical Preview, and ModernUI's larger landing zones for pointers - which both trackpads AND mice benefit from.)

 

What I'm actively hoping is that PC Settings takes some cues from Server Manager (Windows Server 2008 and later).  Server Manager IS gradually replacing Control Panel on the server side of Windows - like PC Settings, Server Manager didn't throw mice under the bus - and it is also trackpad-friendly.  While there are still portable servers, there aren't THAT many where you would expect trackpad-friendliness out of a server-only feature - yet Server Manager is far friendlier to trackpads than is expected.  If (and I haven't tested it for this in 2012R2) Server Manager is also touch-friendly, then we REALLY have to rethink the question of the why of it - as touch isn't exactly commonplace in the server closet.

Why?

 

Because settings redundancy is stupid in an OS. We don't need multiple places to configure the same crap.  I certainly don't need my settings split across two different locations.

No slower than 9841, which was FASTER than 8.1 update 1 - which is on the same drive's primary partition.  Sorry to disappoint there.

I disagree.  It is acceptable in performance, but not faster than 8.1 Update 1.  If anything, the extra debug code is probably slowing it down some.

I just noticed that, looks like they're working on adding more and more stuff into PC settings, once it has everything, even the more advanced stuff I hope, then they'll probably work control panel out of the OS.  

How will they take care of legacy apps that use the control panel?

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George P Global Moderator

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How will they take care of legacy apps that use the control panel?

 

Like what exactly?   If all those apps do is bring up parts of the control panel when you click on something then those same calls could simply be mapped to the new areas in PC settings.

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adrynalyne

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Like what exactly?   If all those apps do is bring up parts of the control panel when you click on something then those same calls could simply be mapped to the new areas in PC settings.

Mapped how?  Is Microsoft going to handle that?

 

Synaptics uses it, so does Logitech, and so does Beats audio.  I don't have much installed on my Windows machine right now, but those are examples.

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BajiRav

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Mapped how?  Is Microsoft going to handle that?

 

Synaptics uses it, so does Logitech, and so does Beats audio.  I don't have much installed on my Windows machine right now, but those are examples.

I guess they will add a panel where it will show all third party cpl in the new settings app.
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Ian S.

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So my windows 10 got updated THIS IS THE RESULT!!!

 

why??

 

 

What do you mean why? It is a preview build, so their is going to be stuff not supposed to be there. That includes the new work-in-progress zPC Settings App. Use PC Settings for a more "finished" version, but without all the blank sub-menus. Also this build seems to be a CPU hog.

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George P Global Moderator

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Mapped how?  Is Microsoft going to handle that?

 

Synaptics uses it, so does Logitech, and so does Beats audio.  I don't have much installed on my Windows machine right now, but those are examples.

 

All those are are applets, .cpl files, that's why many of them can be opened directly and from other parts of the OS without the need to first open the "Control Panel" itself.   So the easy thing to do is to have PC settings list those 3rd party cpls, just like how the control panel does, through the registry, and when you click on the respective button/name w/e, the cpl will come up.   You don't need the control panel around for this to happen (control.exe) because everything in there is it's own applet.   All MS really did starting with Windows 7 is take some of their own things, like display.cpl and so on and make it show up inside the control panel window instead of bring up it's own popup.   

 

If they wanted to make it all work the same then all they'd really have to do is allow them to have their applet UI display in PC settings (instead of toss open a popup window), could just as well be a API call that takes the UI info from the cpl and makes it show up in pc settings.   

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+Zlip792 MVC

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Did you change your registry settings previously to check the MS server for internal builds?

 

I didn't touch anything except IE stuff which includes its testing for features, nothing else was touched.

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HawkMan

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Mapped how?  Is Microsoft going to handle that?

 

Synaptics uses it, so does Logitech, and so does Beats audio.  I don't have much installed on my Windows machine right now, but those are examples.

 

You'll still find the shortcuts in start menu to all those. 

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+Zlip792 MVC

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That error is most commonly related to Windows Update. Use their Mr. Fixit app to resolve this error...

 

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/836941#Symptoms

 

It really helped, fixed three issues. So I hope, it would be fine now.

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