[Official] Star Trek: Discovery Thread

[techbeck]

Good episode.  #4 should be really good.

[Son_Of_Dad]

On 9/28/2017 at 9:44 PM, Nefarious Trigger said:

Trek has always been episodic. 

From the time of TNG it was because the show was first run syndication, it was difficult for the writers to even pickup earlier story threads an example would be the Klingon plots set through seasons 2, 3 and 4. A broadcast should have been able to screen any episode and have the audience understand the plot without need to have seen the/a previous episode.

[Son_Of_Dad]

On 9/29/2017 at 2:02 AM, Slarlac249 said:

i've never been a fan of story arcs as to me it seems like a lazy way of not having to bother telling a differen't story each week,

I'd argue it's much more difficult to create an ongoing story than hit the reset button each week. Take Voyager as an example they had the show plot of getting home but each week (for the most part) it's a fresh episode, the ship is in pristine condition, for 1/2 the series new shuttle craft had been baked - you do that kind of thing especially in sci-fi your core audience quickly feels cheated. It's also important to remember in DS9 and ENT the long story arcs weren't fully planned out they made the story up as they went along, compare that to B5 where it was planned out from where the story and characters are at the start of the season to where things need to be at the end of the season, and that most of the show was written by one writer.

[FloatingFatMan]

OK, I'm definitely getting Section 31 vibes off the new captain... Secrets within secrets... Very good first proper episode, and a much darker view of Trek than we've seen before, overall.  I like it.

 

Michael's roomie is cute.... AND ANNOYING!

 

[Son_Of_Dad]

I hope they're NOT bringing in section 31. S31 are supposed to be highly covert they shouldn't fit in with normal Starfleet operations, have ships, wear uniforms with special black badges. And the room mate has more ticks than a lyme disease research facility doesn't seem to fit with the new ship flash ship, best-of-the-best style.

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

5 hours ago, FloatingFatMan said:

OK, I'm definitely getting Section 31 vibes

"Have you ever seen a black badge before?"

 

5 hours ago, FloatingFatMan said:

Michael's roomie is cute.... AND ANNOYING!

You'd nail her, but want her to leave after...  Then avoid her until you were drunk.

 

5 hours ago, Son_Of_Dad said:

S31 are supposed to be highly covert they shouldn't fit in with normal Starfleet operations, have ships, wear uniforms with special black badges.

No, they ARE support to do those thing. That's the point, they have infiltrated Starfleet at all levels.  Just, shhhh!

 

5 hours ago, Son_Of_Dad said:

And the room mate has more ticks than a lyme disease research facility doesn't seem to fit with the new ship flash ship, best-of-the-best style.

Jokes aside, she as an inclusive character ticks a lot of boxes - and I bet there's a reason for her in the story arc...

[FloatingFatMan]

31 minutes ago, Nefarious Trigger said:

Jokes aside, she as an inclusive character ticks a lot of boxes - and I bet there's a reason for her in the story arc...

She's almost certainly there to give Michael a means of character growth that involves getting that stick out of her butt...

 

[LOC Veteran]

I know its super on the nose, but the Discovery's registry # is 1031 after all. 

[Yogurth]

So...here we are in the mix of Stranger Things, Alien, Iconian tech, Event Horizon and all that Above Top Secret. Unfortunately forced and poorly written confrontations between the Crew and Michael, between Lorca and engie team do not work but I will reserve my opinion for few more episodes, still, I do like the Captain.

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

7 minutes ago, Yogurth said:

So...here we are in the mix of Stranger Things, Alien, Iconian tech, Event Horizon and all that Above Top Secret. Unfortunately forced and poorly written confrontations between the Crew and Michael, between Lorca and engie team do not work but I will reserve my opinion for few more episodes, still, I do like the Captain.

The episodes are short, there are a fair few characters - it's a little clunky but give it time - still better written than any other trek launch.

[Yogurth]

3 minutes ago, Nefarious Trigger said:

The episodes are short, there are a fair few characters - it's a little clunky but give it time - still better written than any other trek launch.

I agree, perhaps apart from DS9 pilot. While in the episode there were a couple of clunky lines, mainly from wormhole aliens, the pilot itself was truly excellent..IMHO.

[+John. Subscriber¹]

I read something which got me thinking. Maybe S31 isn't real at all? In the sense of it's just made up by Starfleet to justify all the grey area stuff they get up to so they can act all high and mighty when they're really as bad as any other organisation? 

[LOC Veteran]

1 hour ago, John. said:

I read something which got me thinking. Maybe S31 isn't real at all? In the sense of it's just made up by Starfleet to justify all the grey area stuff they get up to so they can act all high and mighty when they're really as bad as any other organisation? 

I dunno about that. That feels like a real cheat for the writers if they go that route. And I mean a REAL cheat. Not the super-mega Vulcan 5G connection cheat. This would be on the order of them retconning Spock's unknown adopted Human Sister into the universe cheat.

[Dot Matrix]

Episode 3 was far better than the first two, but Jesus Christ those Klingons are UGLY! Worse, their armor is so bulky, they can't even move in it! How can you be a warrior when you can't even flex and move?

[margrave]

Ep 3 is the best one so far hands down.

 

Klingons are still just space orcs now. And their armor design is horrible.

 

When they blew up that ship, the special effects, or lack thereof have me wondering 8 million an episode for what?!

[upnorth]

Wonder if something similar will occur? 

 

 

[margrave]

On 9/26/2017 at 0:30 PM, George P said:

Well we all did now, thanks I guess?

Now it's all I can see.

[George P Global Moderator]

3 hours ago, John. said:

I read something which got me thinking. Maybe S31 isn't real at all? In the sense of it's just made up by Starfleet to justify all the grey area stuff they get up to so they can act all high and mighty when they're really as bad as any other organisation? 

Nah, it's real, the fact they have a ship, and one that doesn't look like any of the others in the fleet (due to the nature of the tests they're doing as they say in the episode) and the fact it's war time, all point to S31 and covert missions and weapons research.  

 

Unless I'm mistaken, S31 is created because of the war with the klingons,  or it's finally used but it might have existed before.  Regardless, the vibe Discovery is going for is Trek, it's going to be about your morals in a time of war and how far you should go and what you should and shouldn't do.   That's what I expect, it's darker, or it feels that way, sure, but war shapes things more than any other event, so it'll be interesting to see how the war with the klingons brought us to the versions of star fleet and the federation we get later on in TNG etc.  I also like how they're taking the goal of star fleet, explore, discover, science stuff, and twisting it, like in episode 3, for war as is often what happens in history.

[ThisSiteHasLostItsCharm]

21 hours ago, John. said:

Oh Balls I stopped watching! I’ll havs to catch up tomorrow. 

 

Also back badges = definitely some S31 shenanigans 

 

 

 

That's what i thought...

[ThisSiteHasLostItsCharm]

2 hours ago, margrave said:

Ep 3 is the best one so far hands down.

 

Klingons are still just space orcs now. And their armor design is horrible.

 

When they blew up that ship, the special effects, or lack thereof have me wondering 8 million an episode for what?!

yea that was a ###### poor explosion....even the explosions in the tos movies were better than that...i know it's annoying when we pick apart stuff, but i noticed the badness of that scene, was hard to not ignore...it's like they suddenly switched to playing some old video game or popped in a dvd of b5 when a ship blows up lol.

 

i also kept thinking they were suddenly playing doom 3 when they boarded the messed up ship, especially when that monster appeared i instantly thought of "Pinky".

 

come on.....someone else must of suddenly thought they were watching a scene from doom 3??

 

it was a better episode than the first two, but that was some dark stuff...was more grim than the exploding officier in that one tng ep, you know which one.

[+Eternal Tempest MVC]

Series looks good, however we can't watch it when it airs on tv (over the air), and we don't have CBS all access.

We have been watching The Orville instead via Hulu and loving it. 

[ThisSiteHasLostItsCharm]

^ just do what most of us do to watch it, anyone who says they don't is probably a liar.

[ThisSiteHasLostItsCharm]

i saw that; https://www.neowin.net/news/neobytes--the-discovery-on-star-trek-apparently-runs-windows

guess i didn't imagine it.

 

one scene where they are looking at code on a screen, you can briefly see NTDLL.DLL around the 22min mark.

[margrave]

15 hours ago, Slarlac249 said:

yea that was a ###### poor explosion....even the explosions in the tos movies were better than that...i know it's annoying when we pick apart stuff, but i noticed the badness of that scene, was hard to not ignore...it's like they suddenly switched to playing some old video game or popped in a dvd of b5 when a ship blows up lol.

 

i also kept thinking they were suddenly playing doom 3 when they boarded the messed up ship, especially when that monster appeared i instantly thought of "Pinky".

 

come on.....someone else must of suddenly thought they were watching a scene from doom 3??

 

it was a better episode than the first two, but that was some dark stuff...was more grim than the exploding officier in that one tng ep, you know which one.

OMG! You're right! That was/is "Pinky"!!!!

[Son_Of_Dad]

On 10/4/2017 at 1:59 AM, John. said:

Maybe S31 isn't real at all? In the sense of it's just made up by Starfleet to justify all the grey area stuff 

Section 31 IS part of Starfleet though, it's where the name comes from. And their already was a "section 31 isn't actually real" line used in season 7 of DS9. Look I liked the idea of 31 and even that they hooked it back into ENT but if you want to do your own revamped though meant to fit in ST series then rely on original ideas they've already used the most noted alien species and many would say made a mess of them.