Playboy to Feature Its First Transgender Playmate

[sc302 Veteran]

Women born with a penis? You do mean seriouse chromosomal abnormalities I would imagine. Please cite, seriously I'm interested in it medically

http://m.newhealthadvisor.com/Hermaphrodite-Human-Pictures.html

I think this is what you are looking for, maybe?

[Memphis]

http://m.newhealthadvisor.com/Hermaphrodite-Human-Pictures.html

 

I think this is what you are looking for, maybe?

Except that's not a women. Look at the chromosome setup. It's a mosaic, they are in fact a genetic mixture that happened when a cell failed to separate at the telomere and pulled the wrong chromosome into the embryo during the early phases.

 

[sc302 Veteran]

Except that's not a women. Look at the chromosome setup.

It is both, female organs on inside. Male organs on outside. Truly a gender challenged individual.

 

But yes the chromosome make up will define one or the other based on quantity.

[Memphis]

It is both, female organs on inside. Male organs on outside. Truly a gender challenged individual.

We can agree there, nature's only real transgender provable in science. Their is a reason they cannot reproduce. Even worse, since they are a mosaic, they literally have a mixed brain. Mosaic genetics are interesting. Also funny aspect, trisomy 21 has a high chance of reproductive ability than them.

 

[The Evil Overlord]

8 minutes ago, sidroc said:

Women born with a penis? You do mean seriouse chromosomal abnormalities I would imagine. Please cite, seriously I'm interested in it medically. I think you will find that being born with a penis all but guarantees a Y chromosome, or a Chromosome mosaic.

 

Partly a personal agreement with some text on Wikipedia, some parts of the NHS website regarding DSD's, about 'Hermaphrodite' and partly logic on the fact that women with a penis exist, therefore they had to be born.

 

Actually, I'll just link.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermaphrodite

https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?ContentTypeID=90&ContentID=P03079

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/disorders-sex-development/Pages/Introduction.aspx

http://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/news/a32957/sex-talk-realness-being-intersex/

 

I'm not saying my conclusions were right or wrong, they're just my conclusions.

[Memphis]

Partly a personal agreement with some text on Wikipedia, some parts of the NHS website regarding DSD's, about 'Hermaphrodite' and partly logic on the fact that women with a penis exist, therefore they had to be born.
 
Actually, I'll just link.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermaphrodite
https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?ContentTypeID=90&ContentID=P03079
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/disorders-sex-development/Pages/Introduction.aspx
http://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/news/a32957/sex-talk-realness-being-intersex/
 
I'm not saying my conclusions were right or wrong, they're just my conclusions.

Your link pretty much is an expanded version of what I already said.

[The Evil Overlord]

3 hours ago, trag3dy said:

It's less than that, in the US it's estimated that transgender people represent less than 1% of the population (3.8% of Americans identify as LGBT with only .3% of that being transgender). The statistic probably holds globally

More likely not, as in parts of Europe homosexuality is not taboo, and is openly celebrated, if it doesn't make a change to the statistics in any way, then I'm open to retract this statement.

[T3X4S]

I'll say it again - 

Feelings do not change basic biology.

For those who think non-binary is a thing - why aren't you a different age than your chronological age ?

If you are 50 and feel 30, does that make you 30 ?

[+Raze Subscriber²]

37 minutes ago, T3X4S said:

I'll say it again - 

Feelings do not change basic biology.

For those who think non-binary is a thing - why aren't you a different age than your chronological age ?

If you are 50 63 and feel 30, does that make you 30 ?

 

Yes.  It means the testosterone replacement therapy is working!  

[T3X4S]

1 hour ago, Raze said:

 

Yes.  It means the testosterone replacement therapy is working!  

All hail stem cell therapy !  (makes me think of that great Family Guy episode)

"WHY ARE WE NOT WE FUNDING THIS ?!?!"

[trag3dy]

4 hours ago, The Evil Overlord said:

More likely not, as in parts of Europe homosexuality is not taboo, and is openly celebrated, if it doesn't make a change to the statistics in any way, then I'm open to retract this statement.

It's not taboo in the states either? I don't see what that has to do with anything or why it would affect statistics.

[-T- Member]

Playboy doesn’t care about your criticism

[Memphis]

Playboy doesn’t care about your criticism

If sales drop they will.

[-T- Member]

3 minutes ago, sidroc said:

46 minutes ago, -T- said:

Playboy doesn’t care about your criticism

If sales drop they will.

Read the link and their tweets, they won’t 

[DConnell Member]

9 minutes ago, -T- said:

Read the link and their tweets, they won’t 

So they say now, but if sales do drop they'll change their tune. You can't pay employees with ideals.

 

A transgender was featured in Japanese editon? Interesting, but not really all that relevant to the American market. The Japanese go for a lot of stuff that would never fly in domestic media.

 

It remains to be seen whether this issue sells or not.

[domboy]

10 hours ago, The Evil Overlord said:

But there is a documented history of women who are known to have been born with a penis...

 

10 hours ago, sidroc said:

We can agree there, nature's only real transgender provable in science. Their is a reason they cannot reproduce. Even worse, since they are a mosaic, they literally have a mixed brain. Mosaic genetics are interesting. Also funny aspect, trisomy 21 has a high chance of reproductive ability than them.

 

But that's not trans gender, that's intersex or whatever the medical term is. It's a genetic abnormality of having some or all of both male and female organs in one person, and as you mentioned, they are born that way. It isn't a case of a person changing from one sex to the other, humans can't do that naturally. There are certain creatures that can, such as the common reed frog in west Africa. But again, those aren't human. Left to nature, humans stay as they are born, including the ones born with both parts.

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

19 hours ago, -T- said:

Such a magazine already exists, has done so for 20 years now. 

Under the "Playboy" brand?

 

19 hours ago, -T- said:

This is not the first time a trans woman has appeared in Playboy

In this context "Playboy" is referring to the flagship US edition.  Foreign editions have been much more progressive in the past, but that also tallys with their more progressive audiences.

 

19 hours ago, -T- said:

I stand by my earlier remark, many comments on this thread are disgusting, bigoted, and archaic. How pathetic it must be to be so insecure that some pictures of a woman in a magazine are causing you to feel it's forced upon you.

I hope this isn't referring to my comments, as you quoted me.

[Memphis]

2 hours ago, -T- said:

Read the link and their tweets, they won’t 

They already caved on the issue of nude covers. They will cave if pressure is high. Obviously, if it isn't they wont. If you don't think they're motivated by money and trendy issues then your delusional.

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

18 minutes ago, sidroc said:

They already caved on the issue of nude covers. They will cave if pressure is high. Obviously, if it isn't they wont. If you don't think they're motivated by money and trendy issues then your delusional.

Playboy have a history of flip-flopping over decisions.

[-T- Member]

1 hour ago, Nefarious Trigger said:

 

 

I hope this isn't referring to my comments, as you quoted me.

I only quoted you regarding the specialised magazine. It grouped my posts together 

[+Mirumir Subscriber¹]

This is just a last-ditch attempt for Playboy to stay afloat. Their days are numbered. 

 

The company has been deeply in the red zone for years (if not decades) now thanks to the Internet in general (+1 if you used to satisfy your needs by leaching hi-res pictures from usenet @ 28.8kbps) and then YouPorn especially.

 

And I can completely understand the OP's sentiment.

 

To give you another analogy, imagine this:

 

You love the rear-wheel-drive system, you love your BMW which is the fifth consecutive BMW car in your ownership. And then, one day, all the bimmers become front-wheeled. How would you feel about your most favourite brand? Would you still buy one?

 

 

[The Evil Overlord]

5 hours ago, domboy said:

 

But that's not trans gender, that's intersex or whatever the medical term is. It's a genetic abnormality of having some or all of both male and female organs in one person, and as you mentioned, they are born that way. It isn't a case of a person changing from one sex to the other, humans can't do that naturally. There are certain creatures that can, such as the common reed frog in west Africa. But again, those aren't human. Left to nature, humans stay as they are born, including the ones born with both parts.

Doesn't matter, I'm not the kind of person who goes into exact specifics, just to vent disgust over something that will be forgotten in a short time thereafter, I believe that if it's possible for a female to be born with male organs, then it's just as possible for a male to be born in the wrong body.

[The Evil Overlord]

21 hours ago, trag3dy said:

It's not taboo in the states either? I don't see what that has to do with anything or why it would affect statistics.

Maybe, maybe not, but I've seen stories of homosexual teenagers being beaten to death, or kids that have been kicked out of their family home, also getting beaten by their dads, calling them queers and so on, hell I'll concede this probably happens the world over, and is not exclusive to America. But the majority of these stories I see are predominantly American, and as such, can only go on the information available.

For the record, I do not believe America and it's people are evil.

[DrunknMunky Veteran]

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This isn't the place to discuss the reactions feature. I've re-opened the topic here to allow for further feedback.

 

Please remain on topic from now on.

[DConnell Member]

On 10/22/2017 at 10:39 PM, Circaflex said:

Don't let it hit you on the way out. No one here is saying that a trans cannot be in a magazine or have I noticed anyone saying anything really disgusting about them, other than they aren't attracted to them or they shouldve considered creating a new magazine to cater to them. IMO, it is disgusting that we cannot have our own opinions, you and a few others want to label us because we arent males who are attracted to other males who happen to look like females. It is a two way street and you are making me feel uncomfortable for sharing my opinion. I said it at the start of this thread, I don't find women who were once men attractive, but everyone can have their own tastes.

 

@DConnell how about you join the discussion if you disagree with something

Your first sentence. While the rest of your post isn't unreasonable, I don't see the need to make someone who is already uncomfortable feel even moreso.