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On 24/06/2022 at 23:00, Steven P. said:

I loved Pike's "character" 😛 

Oh their acting, all of the cast, was on point! We're talking a literal pound of boiled ham dipped into a bucket of melted cheese! 

 

The story though...  It reminded me of of the TNG Season 7 episode, Masks... Amusing, but ultimately pointless.  In all honesty, they shouldn't be doing episodes like this until the cast's regular characters are much more firmly established...

 

Still, at least we got rid of the kid in the transporter buffer...

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Just saw ep9, did not expect what went down at the end.  They paid homage to a number of classics movie franchises with this ep though.  One episode to go, hope season 2 doesn't take too long to show up.

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On 30/06/2022 at 23:18, George P said:

Just saw ep9, did not expect what went down at the end.  They paid homage to a number of classics movie franchises with this ep though.  One episode to go, hope season 2 doesn't take too long to show up.

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I am sad Hemmer is dead, really liked the character :( 

 

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I am sad Hemmer is dead, really liked the character :( 

 

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Big surprise, but he was a red shirt...so...  😛   I'll give them points for doing it because we've come to expect our core crew to always make it.   I just didn't see it coming so quick.   Makes me really wonder what they're going to do for season 2.   Is this all a canon way to open things up for someone new?  Or for Scotty?  Do we get Scotty on the Enterprise before Kirk is captain?  Now I have to go dive into the lore and see if anything is stated.

 

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Just saw the season finale, wow.  This was a great episode, nice alternate twist of a TOS classic.   I also like how this explains future events even better.   I hope season 2 doesn't take forever to come.  I need more episodes now.

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A few days late but I also did get around to watching the season finale.  While I will lament the fact it was only 10 episodes long, they really nailed the landing with this ep.  I enjoyed this offshoot way more than I did Discovery.

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Such great Trek, hope we get many seasons out of it but I really dislike the 10 episode seasons when it used to be 26 (with Voyager). Yes there were some "budget" episodes, but they almost always were character-based episodes that can reveal a lot about a character too.

 

Anyway, finally some good Trek without all the woke BS.

 

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Such great Trek, hope we get many seasons out of it but I really dislike the 10 episode seasons when it used to be 26 (with Voyager). Yes there were some "budget" episodes, but they almost always were character-based episodes that can reveal a lot about a character too.

Totally agree, sadly most series are really short these days. Things just get going and then you have to wait another year for a few more episodes.

 

I never minded the more budget episodes in shows like Voyager, you get to learn more about the characters / ongoing story.

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On 10/07/2022 at 19:03, InsaneNutter said:

Totally agree, sadly most series are really short these days. Things just get going and then you have to wait another year for a few more episodes.

 

I never minded the more budget episodes in shows like Voyager, you get to learn more about the characters / ongoing story.

Someone posted that filming for season 2 is done, so they're in post.  I hope the wait isn't long either and maybe down the line we can get a few more episodes in each season, say 12 or 13 at least.   I'd be fine with 10 if the gap between seasons wasn't huge.  

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Such great Trek, hope we get many seasons out of it but I really dislike the 10 episode seasons when it used to be 26 (with Voyager). Yes there were some "budget" episodes, but they almost always were character-based episodes that can reveal a lot about a character too.

 

Anyway, finally some good Trek without all the woke BS.

 

Hit it.

Episode 10 was great, no argument there, but episode 9?  Waaaaay too much stupid for me to give it a pass... Plenty of action sure, but it was unoriginal, poorly scripted, badly written, full of dumb plot holes, action...

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The new Kirk sucks. He doesn't even look or acts like Kirk. The obvious choice for this part should have been this man, Vic Mignogna, who did a superb job as Kirk on the web series Star Trek Continues and looks a lot like Kirk.

 

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On 12/07/2022 at 21:15, spacelordmaster said:

The new Kirk sucks. He doesn't even look or acts like Kirk. The obvious choice for this part should have been this man, Vic Mignogna, who did a superb job as Kirk on the web series Star Trek Continues and looks a lot like Kirk.

 

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That's an older Kirk though, post 5 year mission afaik?

 

It is on my list of things to see.

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The new Kirk sucks. He doesn't even look or acts like Kirk. The obvious choice for this part should have been this man, Vic Mignogna, who did a superb job as Kirk on the web series Star Trek Continues and looks a lot like Kirk.

As much as I enjoyed his work in Phase II/Continues, the 2019 sexual harassment allegations have pretty much made him untouchable by any studio...

 

Besides which, I don't think ANY actor in a fan production has much chance of a role in an official show, lest it lend any form of legitimacy to the fan production and potentially confusing viewers into thinking they're legit.

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On 12/07/2022 at 23:04, Steven P. said:

That's an older Kirk though, post 5 year mission afaik?

 

It is on my list of things to see.

It's post TMP if you go by the uniforms in that picture specifically.  But I think the series picks up, timeline wise, after season 3 of TOS ends.

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On 13/07/2022 at 07:55, FloatingFatMan said:

As much as I enjoyed his work in Phase II/Continues, the 2019 sexual harassment allegations have pretty much made him untouchable by any studio...

 

Besides which, I don't think ANY actor in a fan production has much chance of a role in an official show, lest it lend any form of legitimacy to the fan production and potentially confusing viewers into thinking they're legit.

That's a valid point, they're not going to do that for sure.  At the most they might hire a writer or writers from a fan work if they're impressed enough.   Don't think you ever seen the actors make it and move up though.

 

I think Wesley is getting hated on for no reason.   There's a few things to take note, 1 this was a alternate version, so off the bat you're not going to get 1:1 with TOS Kirk.  We don't know how much has changed since he didn't take over the Enterprise.

 

Second, it's not Kirks show, he's a guest character in PIkes show.  They're not going to have Kirk overshadow Pike in Pikes show, they probably wanted Wesley to play it toned down.  

 

There's also the fact that after all these years Shatners overacting of Kirk has become a established meme to, we really don't need to go there.  Even Pine doesn't, he just has the charisma set to max in his version.    But again, he's the main for the movies, the role demands it. 

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I think Wesley is getting hated on for no reason.   There's a few things to take note, 1 this was a alternate version, so off the bat you're not going to get 1:1 with TOS Kirk.  We don't know how much has changed since he didn't take over the Enterprise.

I didn't mind his performance TBH.  We should expect a different Kirk as this one wasn't tempered by Spock and Scotty (and possibly Bones too, he wasn't in it).

 

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Second, it's not Kirks show, he's a guest character in PIkes show.  They're not going to have Kirk overshadow Pike in Pikes show, they probably wanted Wesley to play it toned down.  

 

There's also the fact that after all these years Shatners overacting of Kirk has become a established meme to, we really don't need to go there.  Even Pine doesn't, he just has the charisma set to max in his version.    But again, he's the main for the movies, the role demands it. 

As much as I love TOS, Shatner's acting is... dreadful.. :p

 

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https://thedaoofdragonball.com/blog/news/vic-mignogna-case-dismissed-with-prejudice/
 

Yes I know, and I make no commentary over his guilt or innocence at all.  BUT, the damage is done... If you look at his filmography since that case, he doesn't appear to have acted since... His career is over, innocent or not.

 

Sadly, in today's world, all that's needed to end a career is a single accusation.

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On 13/07/2022 at 18:08, FloatingFatMan said:

Yes I know, and I make no commentary over his guilt or innocence at all.  BUT, the damage is done... If you look at his filmography since that case, he doesn't appear to have acted since... His career is over, innocent or not.

 

Sadly, in today's world, all that's needed to end a career is a single accusation.

Especially with how the media just puts anyone out there at the drop of a hat, just doxing them.    At least in other countries the media keeps the identify of the accused private until or if they're found guilty because they're aware of the damage that is done in the public eye.   Though many times they kind of skirt the privacy laws by posting a persons FB or Instagram pictures but blurring their face, which is pretty much all that's needed for people online to find out who they are. 

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Big surprise, but he was a red shirt...so...  😛   I'll give them points for doing it because we've come to expect our core crew to always make it.   I just didn't see it coming so quick.   Makes me really wonder what they're going to do for season 2.   Is this all a canon way to open things up for someone new?  Or for Scotty?  Do we get Scotty on the Enterprise before Kirk is captain?  Now I have to go dive into the lore and see if anything is stated.

 

No Scotty as of yet but they did cast the new engineer, Carol Kane for season 2.

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I wished they kept Hemmer for at least another season.  I loved him as the engineer/character and didn't use him enough in this season.  Though I did read that the actor will be on the Enterprise as someone else.

It was a great season and a huge welcome seeing episodic episodes.

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