Running Mac OS X on x86 PC!

[S.MULLA]

a new emulator called PearPC seems to be able to run OS X on x86 machines:

http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/index.html

Check out the screenshots:

http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html

source:aqua-soft.org [forum]

[Ryan Hoffman]

I was planning on making a "Create a hard disk image" wizard. "Easy so a child can use it" means everything is right there for the user to do :-P.

What is your app written in? Sharing the source would be cool :-).

[Emon]

I was planning on making a "Create a hard disk image" wizard.? "Easy so a child can use it" means everything is right there for the user to do :-P.

What is your app written in?? Sharing the source would be cool :-).

It's written in python ..

I am going to release the source as soon as I get done testing the HD image that I made ..

( also cleaning out the code now.. its quite dirt:):) )

[aka JAWheat411]

Very cool .. cant wait to try your app out...

Heres a question for ya .. what are you doing for empty HD images ?

Are you just asking the user to give the path for the HD image or your app makes the HD image for them ?

Coz I just made this app using the python script from main pearpc site.

Try it out and let me know what u think .. It works pretty good .. you just need one click and it will make a HD image for ya :) (the image file will be saved in the same folder of the program)

Heres a SS and link for the program.

http://s87840517.onlinehome.us/utils/hdimagemaker.rar

Do you have a guide for expanding the size of your HD image from within OS X? I know it can be done but don't want to do it until I know how for sure.

[Ryan Hoffman]

Do you have a guide for expanding the size of your HD image from within OS X? I know it can be done but don't want to do it until I know how for sure.

I've already posted a complete step-by-step procedure for this ;-).

Increasing Your PearPC Hard Disk Image Size

[Emon]

Do you have a guide for expanding the size of your HD image from within OS X? I know it can be done but don't want to do it until I know how for sure.

well you could just make a bigger HD image ( using my app ofcourse :p ) ..mount it as a slave drive ..

then use corbon copy cloner and clone your existing HD to that empty HD. When you are done ..just boot pearpc using that new HD image and delete the old one.

Link for corbon copy cloner

http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html

EDIT: darn .. gotta type faster than Tekmaven :D

[aka JAWheat411]

Yes that is what I am talking about. I seen a "How To" somewhere for it. But it actually described how to do the copying of files with a program built in to OS X.

I will give it a go.

Edited May 31, 2004 by aka JAWheat411

[aka JAWheat411]

I've already posted a complete step-by-step procedure for this ;-).

Increasing Your PearPC Hard Disk Image Size

Thanks

Oh I even downloaded that PDF I guess I should read it lmao. :D

[Emon]

I was planning on making a "Create a hard disk image" wizard. "Easy so a child can use it" means everything is right there for the user to do :-P.

What is your app written in? Sharing the source would be cool :-).

here ya go ...

[ForeverUnknown]

It's now running well. I'm going to be writing some wizards, and other things to make this app "user friendly". My goal: a 4 year old should be able to use PearPC. The ugly dos console with the debug information is now in the "Session Log" area of the VM's page. I currently can't embed the PearPC GUI window in my application due to the way PearPC works :-P (I'm going to send the dev's an email, hopefully we can work on this).

Here is the latest screenie, and I'm also going to put this on the PearPC Developer's Wiki.

wow that's looking great

[Orson]

Good news is coming...

Enhanced PearPC 0.2pre

A new enhanced build of PearPC has been programmed by nilss. The new main feature is SDL support, which gives you nice speed enhancement.

According to the developer, his build only needs 2 mins 20 secs, compared to 2 mins 55 secs with the CVS build on his 1 GHz CPU. So it's 35 seconds faster than the normal version.

Full list of the new features and advantages:

SDL: Faster!

SDL: Different video targets (like directfb, x11, and aalib)

Fullscreen toggle (F12)

Mousegrab (SHIFT+ F9)

Change redraw timings on the fly (F10 -1msec; F11 +1msec)

Right now it is only available as source, but I am sure binaries will pop up soon. You can tell me of course, if you know where to find one.

nilss is available via our chat room and in the forums.

Pearpc.net

[JeremyWeisser]

I know this a pretty ridiculous question at this point but I feel like asking it anyway.

Is it or will it eventually be possible to get an iPod to work with iTunes using Pear PC?

[Huy]

Hey all, I'm having trouble installing Panther. I've tried about 5 times now, and each time, it has failed. I have tried using JITC and non-JITC builds, (0.2pre), among various other nightly builds (P4 optimised & No-Arch-Win32-R2). I am able to start the installation however it fails after a few hours, seen in the attached screen. I've played around with 128, 256 and higher (up to 512MB) of ram in my config, changed resolutions, redraw rates, installed openVPN, disabled NICs (both the old one and the new realtek one in the config), used different 3GB and 6GB images (at different locations, on different drives), everything!

What I need to ask:

- which build should I use on a P4, because the nightly builds don't work for me?

- which pre-formatted images is everyone using? filenames?

- any other information.

Not sure what else is there to do, to get this thing working. :huh:

[eaglebtc]

Good news is coming...

Enhanced PearPC 0.2pre

Can someone please help me compile this in Cygwin? For some reason, the compiler does not see "install-sh" but it is clearly sitting in the folder.

I unpacked the tarball -- within Cygwin itself -- using "tar -xvzf pearpc-0.2.tar.bz2" . The files appear to be there, but according to Windows they are "shortcuts" -- links that actually point somewhere else.

Why are these files "missing" ?

I know this a pretty ridiculous question at this point but I feel like asking it anyway.

Is it or will it eventually be possible to get an iPod to work with iTunes using Pear PC?

First, Firewire has to actually be emulated in the operating system. Right now, the only external connection is "USB" but it can't do anything. Firewire is probably a ways off. Once Firewire works inside the Virtual Mac, it must then be connected to the host computer's ieee1394 interface.

Edited May 31, 2004 by eaglebtc

[okt00]

Before the SDL version can be compiled for win32, a part of it has to be re-written. It is being done, but it is going to take some time.

[alberto20]

Hi people, i have a PIII 350MHZ/256MB laptop...I wanted to ask if the speed is acceptable if i will install it on this machine...Thanx in Advance!

Peace,

Alberto

[Knight']

Hi people, i have a PIII 350MHZ/256MB laptop...I wanted to ask if the speed is acceptable if i will install it on this machine...Thanx in Advance!

Peace,

Alberto

MacOSX will be 500 times slower than the host machine, so go figure.

[alberto20]

MacOSX will be 500 times slower than the host machine, so go figure.

Thanx for the fast reply....I'm going to cry and wait till a faster version is out...

[Ryan Hoffman]

Thanx for the fast reply....I'm going to cry and wait till a faster version is out...

I doubt it will EVER be fast enough for your laptop. Straight x86 processor emulation isn't at a 1:1 speed to your processor... so emulating a different architecture, will always be a slower (I'd be suprised if we got it to 1/10 of the x86 processor speed).

Currently many PearPC functions are all handled on the processor. As PearPC progresses, functions such as the video display will be utilizing the graphics card; taking away much needed processing time. A 350mhz laptop can by no means have even a crappy video card for today's standards (it would be "sub-crappy" :-P). Also, your disk interface is probably ATA33 (or even slower), and coupled with the slow processor, 33mb/s max burst of HD transfer is pretty poor!

I don't want to dash your hopes and dreams :-P, just want to tell you that you might wait a lifetime :no:

[alberto20]

I doubt it will EVER be fast enough for your laptop. Straight x86 processor emulation isn't at a 1:1 speed to your processor... so emulating a different architecture, will always be a slower (I'd be suprised if we got it to 1/10 of the x86 processor speed).

Currently many PearPC functions are all handled on the processor. As PearPC progresses, functions such as the video display will be utilizing the graphics card; taking away much needed processing time. A 350mhz laptop can by no means have even a crappy video card for today's standards (it would be "sub-crappy" :-P). Also, your disk interface is probably ATA33 (or even slower), and coupled with the slow processor, 33mb/s max burst of HD transfer is pretty poor!

I don't want to dash your hopes and dreams :-P, just want to tell you that you might wait a lifetime :no:

Whoauw, thanx alot for your epxlanation bro! Oh well, that means i got to stick with Bassilik or whatever

Again, thanx alot!

Peace,

Alberto

[Knight']

Whoauw, thanx alot for your epxlanation bro! Oh well, that means i got to stick with Bassilik or whatever

Again, thanx alot!

Peace,

Alberto

Stick a nice Linux distro on your laptop, it looks nicer than Windows and is more responsive in my experience.

[JeremyWeisser]

How fast would OSX run using PPC on my machine, specs below? Would it be comprable to a PII, PIII, running Windows XP?

Also, I know this has been asked before, and I think the answer is yes but, can I allocate 512MB od memory towards the config? Will this help performance? Is there any reason not to?

[Arch]

How fast would OSX run using PPC on my machine, specs below? Would it be comprable to a PII, PIII, running Windows XP?

Also, I know this has been asked before, and I think the answer is yes but, can I allocate 512MB od memory towards the config? Will this help performance? Is there any reason not to?

It should run quite well on your machine.

I believe you can give it 512 MB RAM without any trouble, you just have to figure out the config files first.

[JeremyWeisser]

Thanks for the quick reply!

[nuka_t]

i have 512 ram, how much can i allocate and how do i do it?

[aldo]

Nuka, it's in the config file. I'd allocate 256M if I were you, to give you enough to run your host OS fast aswell.