Was the moon landing faked ? I think so


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way to trust a geocities page as a source for your conspiracy theory that has been debated for years... :sleep:

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hey brilliancy...

read the whole thread before you post...I am AGAINST those who think it was faked...

some people...

NO it was not fake, whoever came up with this bull**** is an idiot in the first place for even trying to say it was faked. Rediculous. I don't see how ANYone can believe that crap.

I love SintaX. I, of course, would be flamed to death for that post...

I am not hear to debate the fact that they moon Landing was faked or not.

However I do find it very interesting that so many people are convinced that it was not fake, and like I said who the hell knows if it was or not, just because we have been told it is real. To put such faith in the US Government and to believe that it was indeed real because They said it is, is just someone who is for lack of a better description, misinformed.

If you believe everything the Government says just because they are the Government, then They have you exactly where they want you to be... a complacent, mind washed member of Society whom just accepts everything at face value, and never looks beneath the surface.

Am I A Conspiracy Theorist? NO

Am I someone Who Does not trust the Powers That Be? YES. Damn Straight I Am. All with good reason I might add...

I am not going to go on and on with all of the reasons why, because I could easily write a Novel doing so (and since many others already have why bother), all I am saying is people... things are not True just because we are told they are.

Google Noam Chomsky. He is just one of many examples of people questioning the state of the world we live in. If you are truly interested PM me, I have some mp3's of lectures he has given as well...

I am not hear to debate the fact that they moon Landing was faked or not.

However I do find it very interesting that so many people are convinced that it was not fake, and like I said who the hell knows if it was or not, just because we have been told it is real. To put such faith in the US Government and to believe that it was indeed real because They said it is, is just someone who is for lack of a better description, misinformed.

If you believe everything the Government says just because they are the Government, then They have you exactly where they want you to be... a complacent, mind washed member of Society whom just accepts everything at face value, and never looks beneath the surface.

Am I A Conspiracy Theorist? NO

Am I someone Who Does not trust the Powers That Be? YES. Damn Straight I Am. All with good reason I might add...

I am not going to go on and on with all of the reasons why, because I could easily write a Novel doing so (and since many others already have why bother), all I am saying is people... things are not True just because we are told they are.

Google Noam Chomsky. He is just one of many examples of people questioning the state of the world we live in. If you are truly interested PM me, I have some mp3's of lectures he has given as well...

Right ON! :punk:

I don't know how many neowinians reading this post live in the UK, but there was a good programme on channel 5 a few wees back about the faked (apparently?) moon landings. There was this one guy who worked with NASA on it who insisted they were fake and claimed to have had the CIA try to assassinate him a few times.

I was quite convinced that the lunar landings were faked - they showed a photograph in which a moon rock with neil amstrong (or buzz aldrin) standing by it with the letter C written on it. There were also no stars on the photos.

Im still not convinced that they ever did land on a moon...im sure it was one great big NASA cover-up in order to make the russians thing that the USA had beaten them in the space race.

I don't know how many neowinians reading this post live in the UK, but there was a good programme on channel 5 a few wees back about the faked (apparently?) moon landings. There was this one guy who worked with NASA on it who insisted they were fake and claimed to have had the CIA try to assassinate him a few times.

I was quite convinced that the lunar landings were faked - they showed a photograph in which a moon rock with neil amstrong (or buzz aldrin) standing by it with the letter C written on it. There were also no stars on the photos.

Im still not convinced that they ever did land on a moon...im sure it was one great big NASA cover-up in order to make the russians thing that the USA had beaten them in the space race.

yes. you would know. some scientist guy somewhere on some television special said someone tried to kill him somewhere forseeing something and going to say something else because of something that was supposedly said somewhere.

great points!

I think it was faked. :yes:

There is no valid proof that it was real yet there are facts that state the opposite. :hmmm:

Somehow I'm also starting to doubt about the Mars landings. :whistle: It's an easy way to account for a lot of money that can be used for other purposes... :shifty:

  • 3 weeks later...

I know this topic is like dead but I felt the need to breathe some new life into it. I don't know if it was ever mentioned but it's kinda obvious, with our satelites up there, why have we never seen a photo of the flag on the moon? Did they take it off when they left or did they leave it. Also their footprints or anything like that, if they are powerful enough to see other planets clearly I think we can see some footprints on the moon. Also another obvious one is the wind on the flag, how the hell can it be straight unless something is blowing it? My questions may be ignorant with simply answers, if so please tell me they are driving me nuts.

I know this topic is like dead but I felt the need to breathe some new life into it. I don't know if it was ever mentioned but it's kinda obvious, with our satelites up there, why have we never seen a photo of the flag on the moon? Did they take it off when they left or did they leave it. Also their footprints or anything like that, if they are powerful enough to see other planets clearly I think we can see some footprints on the moon. Also another obvious one is the wind on the flag, how the hell can it be straight unless something is blowing it? My questions may be ignorant with simply answers, if so please tell me they are driving me nuts.

Our telescopes are so powerful that we have been able to see rover tracks and footprints on the moon.

But of course people will just tell you that a secret mission was launched in the 80's to finally put those there. :ninja: :alien: :ninja:

:p

For you conspiracy theorists out there, read this page (Moon Hoax section) which is maintained by an ACTUAL astronomer that discounts all the bull**** the Moon Hoax conspiracy theorists disseminate. Funny how someone in a position to really study and understand what happened, and how it happened, can factually refute point by point all the ramblings of conspiracy theorists...

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