Dell UltraSharp 2005FPW 20" Widescreen LCD

[Vice]

I ordered one a few days ago, I hope I get a good one :D I paid ?399 including VAT & Shipping from Dell.co.uk down from ?530 until June 27th. Great deal.

[Cyrana]

Btw, a great resolution to run at if you can't run the game in widescreen is 1400x1050. You'll just have small bars on the sides and nothing on top or bottom. Might have to edit a game's files for it (sometimes), but it works pretty well in the odd case where you can't run 1680x1050 in the game for whatever reason.

[El_Hummer]

After reading this topic for weeks now, I order mine because my old CRT whats to see old manitu soon.

Well one box, everything stored in there, nothing what was impressive yet.

After I put it on my table, I reallly realized how big a CRT could be and how much space I now have left on my table - this is just amazing!

The first difference is, you have so much space on the desktop, it is like "I don't know what to put there and there...and there!"

First I had to try and because I am really addicted to it at the moment: World of Warcraft. I moved all the sliders in den Options of the game and the driver dialog to maximum.

What I saw, was just :woot: Absolutly!

It is like sitting in the cinema in the first row, right in front the screen, but with the differents, it is not only big, but sharp und colorfull aswell. Amazing.

Because I use Photoshop often, I didn't try that on this screen yet and I have to try and see Half-Life 2 and some mods like DoD.

Never want to switch to something that is smaller than this lovely piece of technic :D

[Vice]

After reading this topic for weeks now, I order mine because my old CRT whats to see old manitu soon.

Well one box, everything stored in there, nothing what was impressive yet.

After I put it on my table, I reallly realized how big a CRT could be and how much space I now have left on my table - this is just amazing!

The first difference is, you have so much space on the desktop, it is like "I don't know what to put there and there...and there!"

First I had to try and because I am really addicted to it at the moment: World of Warcraft. I moved all the sliders in den Options of the game and the driver dialog to maximum.

What I saw, was just :woot: Absolutly!

It is like sitting in the cinema in the first row, right in front the screen, but with the differents, it is not only big, but sharp und colorfull aswell. Amazing.

Because I use Photoshop often, I didn't try that on this screen yet and I have to try and see Half-Life 2 and some mods like DoD.

Never want to switch to something that is smaller than this lovely piece of technic :D

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Heh cool :D Mine is being delivered today between 5pm and 9pm! (its 1:50pm now) argh wish it would hurry up. :p

[dvdrcha]

Just checked the Dell website, they have it on sale for $561.75. I ordered mine from compudirectpc.com for $518 and according to the tracking info I'm getting it Tuesday the 7th! Can't wait...

[Vice]

Mine just came and it is perfect no dead pixels perfect backlighting absolutely brilliant! :D Plays HL2 great too now my 6800GT really shines I get a steady 50FPS with everything on highest, I am so happy, Thanks for the review this made me get this monitor :)

[dL]

I want to get this too ><"

$660 CAD for this cheap or not?

dL

[undergroove]

Tomorrow between 5pm and 9pm for my delivery.... it'll be sitting next to a 19" Viewsonic that now gets to become my second monitor!

Mate got his last week though and I went to see it on Saturday. Within 15 minutes of getting there and gaming, vid watching + other tests, I'd bought the fella online. Can't wait to get my hands on it....

[jaminus]

I have a question about the 2005fpw's scaling settings.

The monitor has 3 scaling options: 1:1, Fill, and Aspect.

According to Dell's product support website for the 2005fpw

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/moni...ing%20the%20OSD

The aspect ratio setting "Increases Vertical image size to fit screen and adjusts Horizontal size to maintain proportional image."

The 2005fpw isn't truly Widescreen - its native aspect ratio is 16:10, not 16:9. Therefore, what happens when I input a 16:9 signal (such as 1280x720) using the Aspect scaling setting? If the image is stretched vertically to fit the screen, how can the 2005fpw adjust the horizontal size to maintain a proportional image? Does the 2005fpw simply cut off the left and right edges of the image, sacrificing more than 10% of the picture?

Of course, intuition would suggest that when a 16:9 signal is sent to a 2005fpw, the monitor should increase the horizontal image size to fit the screen, while adjusting the vertical size to maintain a proportional image (assuming scaling is set to Aspect). Dell's product documentation, however, contradicts this assessment.

I'm considering the 2005fpw, in part, because I want a monitor that can display a 720p High Definition signal (from VGA or DVI, of course) with a widescreen aspect ratio. The other 2 scaling options are undesirable, as 1:1 results in black bars covering nearly half of the monitor's area, and Fill results in a distorted, softened picture. Typical LCD monitors with a 4:3 or 5:4 aspect ratio provide too small a picture when set to maintain a widescreen aspect ratio of a 720p signal.

I'm hoping Dell's product documentation is inaccurate, and I would appreciate any knowledge 2005fpw owners can offer about how the monitor handles a 16:9 picture when set to maintain Aspect ratio.

[Gotchaforce]

I have a question about the 2005fpw's scaling settings.

The monitor has 3 scaling options: 1:1, Fill, and Aspect.

According to Dell's product support website for the 2005fpw

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/moni...ing%20the%20OSD

The aspect ratio setting "Increases Vertical image size to fit screen and adjusts Horizontal size to maintain proportional image."

The 2005fpw isn't truly Widescreen - its native aspect ratio is 16:10, not 16:9.  Therefore, what happens when I input a 16:9 signal (such as 1280x720) using the Aspect scaling setting?  If the image is stretched vertically to fit the screen, how can the 2005fpw adjust the horizontal size to maintain a proportional image?  Does the 2005fpw simply cut off the left and right edges of the image, sacrificing more than 10% of the picture?

Of course, intuition would suggest that when a 16:9 signal is sent to a 2005fpw, the monitor should increase the horizontal image size to fit the screen, while adjusting the vertical size to maintain a proportional image (assuming scaling is set to Aspect).  Dell's product documentation, however, contradicts this assessment.

I'm considering the 2005fpw, in part, because I want a monitor that can display a 720p High Definition signal (from VGA or DVI, of course) with a widescreen aspect ratio.  The other 2 scaling options are undesirable, as 1:1 results in black bars covering nearly half of the monitor's area, and Fill results in a distorted, softened picture.  Typical LCD monitors with a 4:3 or 5:4 aspect ratio provide too small a picture when set to maintain a widescreen aspect ratio of a 720p signal.

I'm hoping Dell's product documentation is inaccurate, and I would appreciate any knowledge 2005fpw owners can offer about how the monitor handles a 16:9 picture when set to maintain Aspect ratio.

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aspect keeps the aspect ratio in check, so if youre playing Xbox360 with 720p, it will basically stretch the image until it hits the sides of the screens (while maintaining the aspect ratio of course), and there will be black bars on the top and bottom.

Fill means it will fill up the WHOLE screen, it will stretch it as much as it needs to, both horizontally and vertically, this will result in a distorted image. If youre doing 720p it means the picture will be elongated to strech to the top and bottom of the screen.

1:1 means youre getting exactly 1280x720 pixels, which means a much smaller black box than 1680x1050 native resolution.

[darkmark327]

I have a question about the 2005fpw's scaling settings.

The monitor has 3 scaling options: 1:1, Fill, and Aspect.

etc etc

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Aspect = stretched with black bars to maintain aspect ratio

There's nothing contradictory, it stretches the image until either the sides or the top/bottom hit the edge of the screen, anything not filled in has black bars.

Any ratio wider than 16:10 (e.g. 16:9) has black bars on the top and bottom, any ratio narrower (e.g. 4:3) will have black bars on the sides.

[Houmack]

Just got mine for $430 USD Shipped.

I don't know what to think of it. It's sexy for sure, but.... i don't know if it's big enough?

I just sold my 19" BenQ 937s for this, and that was a BEAUTIFUL monitor. I'm not sure if I should feel down for doing that or not. The 19" looked a lot bigger. The Dell has higher resolution, so it looks very slick, but then again, the BenQ wasn't all that bad either.

I've only had it for a couple of hours, maybe I'll get used to it and fall more in love with it once I start playing around more.

Now... someone link me to a good website where you can get nice widescreen desktop wallpapers.

Thanks

:ninja:

[yanman]

Aww, my 17" CRT just died... I was expecting to get a 2005FPW after I move house, but I guess that isn't happening... I go to the Dell site and it seems to be that the 2005FPW have 16ms response time. I read somewhere in this thread where something like "Grey on grey has 12ms reponse time, black on black has 16ms response time" what is that supposed to mean? Will I be able to pick on up from Dell in Australia with 12ms?

Thanks

[JayD]

I just received mine a few weeks ago, May 05 Rev02 w/ no dead/stuck pixels or backlight issues so I was very happy. However, I have recently noticed another problem that I haven't seen anyone else have: I get scrolling lines on the left side of the monitor about 2 inches long and moving from top to bottomthat appear to be "behind" the screen. They seem almost like interference or AC hum bars but I'm almost sure they are not. I have tried 2 seperate battery backups, an AC line noise filter, two different power supplies, three different video cards, a completely different computer, and a $100 Monster DVI cable. The problem only appears when using the DVI connection when connected to either my X850XT or 6800GT, but DOES NOT appear when connected through DVI to my GeForce Ti 4600. When connected through the D-Sub cable the problem dissapears completely, which seems very odd to me. I have tried everything I can think of, but does anyone have any more ideas? I've had the monitor for 2 weeks so I'll try for a replacement, but I like this one so hopefully I can fix the problem somehow. Are there any tweaks for vertical or horizontal refresh rates perhaps? I cannot for the life of me figure out what is going on...

[NemesisNG]

Aww, my 17" CRT just died... I was expecting to get a 2005FPW after I move house, but I guess that isn't happening... I go to the Dell site and it seems to be that the 2005FPW have 16ms response time. I read somewhere in this thread where something like "Grey on grey has 12ms reponse time, black on black has 16ms response time" what is that supposed to mean? Will I be able to pick on up from Dell in Australia with 12ms?

Thanks

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What the quoted response times there mean are that for a single pixel to go from black - fully off, to colour, and back to black again it takes 16ms. Durning normal use tho most pixels are not going fully off and on again, more like from a grey halftone shade to colour and back to keep up with whats being displayed.

They just give you that extra grey to grey of 12ms stats as some manfactures only quote that one trying to make their pannel sound better. There is only one version of the 2005FPW and that has a true 16ms response time.

I've had mine since Janurary this year and have found it amazing in everything I have tried with it. Not a bad word to say about it.

Hope that clears it up for you.

Nick

[yanman]

Thanks, Nick, for that response, it certainly cleared everything up for me. haha

So, there's no problems with ghosting or anything?

[NemesisNG]

Thanks, Nick, for that response, it certainly cleared everything up for me. haha

So, there's no problems with ghosting or anything?

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No problems mate, glad to be of help.

Certainly no ghosting, that I've seen. I have got 1 dead pixel, stuck on grey, but it's just on the top edge of the task bar about 2inches in from the bottom left - so I never see it. I know I could send it back, and may well do if any more occur, but for now it's fine without any hassle.

Got for it, you know you want one :yes:

Nick

[Houmack]

No problems mate, glad to be of help.

Certainly no ghosting, that I've seen. I have got 1 dead pixel, stuck on grey, but it's just on the top edge of the task bar about 2inches in from the bottom left - so I never see it. I know I could send it back, and may well do if any more occur, but for now it's fine without any hassle.

Got for it, you know you want one  :yes:

Nick

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no ghosting that you can see if you're just playing normal speed games. Load up Half Life or any other game and move the mouse REAL fast, you'll see ghosting. But then again, not often do you move that mouse THAT fast to notice it. can't wait for battle field 2 to come out. that will tell tails

[Vice]

I came from a 12ms 17inch LCD monitor and with my 2005FPW I don't notice any ghosting at all I'm using the DVI connection not tried any of the other inputs

[yanman]

No problems mate, glad to be of help.

Certainly no ghosting, that I've seen. I have got 1 dead pixel, stuck on grey, but it's just on the top edge of the task bar about 2inches in from the bottom left - so I never see it. I know I could send it back, and may well do if any more occur, but for now it's fine without any hassle.

Got for it, you know you want one  :yes:

Nick

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Sweet, I am going for one. This old CRT is so damn blurry. Thanks for the info :D

[thenaes]

Any coupons and/or deals for this right now?

[oddcrap]

Any coupons and/or deals for this right now?

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Check with SlickDeals :)

[yanman]

Yay! I ordered mine! Got my dad to split the price of the LCD with me :happy: Can't wait until I get it! Why does it take 10 days after confirmation to ship?

[Raggers]

I have got 1 dead pixel, stuck on grey, but it's just on the top edge of the task bar about 2inches in from the bottom left - so I never see it.

I know I could send it back, [...]

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I was wondering: can you really send the monitor back 'cause of one faulty pixel? First time I hear that.

[trek]

I was wondering: can you really send the monitor back 'cause of one faulty pixel? First time I hear that.

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just say you are unsatisfied with the monitor. under dell's "total satisfaction policy" they must take it back.