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This has to be the worst patching day I've ever experienced in WoW. Why cant Blizzard predict these things ahead of time?

If they could, I think they'd fore go releasing patches and updating servers and start predicting the future.

^ oh BS. They need to plan for this and go over the code before a patch is released- especially a 3.0.2 FINAL. They have enough programmers and $$$ that this kind of crap shouldn't be happening every time there is a patch.

They always have in the past, they will this time too.

The $.50 is awesome!

Again... that's not any kind of compensation. They're pro-rating the refund/credit.

I would think with 10 million subscribers they could predict what would happen. Think about it:

You're deploying a big content patch, the biggest since TBC. It happens every content patch, mass people come in droves to see it.

WTB 2.4 launch, that went relatively smooth.

This has to be the worst patching day I've ever experienced in WoW. Why cant Blizzard predict these things ahead of time?

Joke right? Although I've only been on a bit this morning before I had class, it was still decent considering they'd only been up for a couple of hours. It's not until you start seeing...

[sERVER] Shutdown in 15:00

[sERVER] Shutdown in 00:15

...that you should be complaining. I'm sure hotfixes are on the way.

Here's a screenshot of how bad it could be (and was).

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Though having said that, we'll probably get a days credit later this week as well.

Edited by chAos972

Well crap. I'm stuck on "Retrieving character list" for BOTH of my accounts. This is ****ty. Blizzard was supposed to have fixed this crap.

Edit: Was finally able to get in... Now I'm stuck on the blue bar of death.

Edited by Xilo
Well crap. I'm stuck on "Retrieving character list" for BOTH of my accounts. This is ****ty. Blizzard was supposed to have fixed this crap.

Edit: Was finally able to get in...

Haha same here.

Got in for a bit and then.. That character already exists. Doh!, should have known.

this is all LOL.. everything on my server is broken.. i.e ports in shatt to azeroth cities and the dark portal.

The old saying from the days of Asheron's Call 1, "Never Play On Patch Day".

Sure if you can log in and explore, great. Just don't expect the server to be up and flawless after a patch, especially one this big. No point in planning to quest and play without problems.

I have not seen an MMORPG yet in the past 9 years that hadn't had a some problems on patches. Also in the past there have been some way more problematic WoW patches.

So we ran Kara last night to test to test out new talents. All I can say is "wow". All of the mobs between the front door and Midnight we did in two pulls...with two healers...one pally tank. The second pull of mobs actually included Midnight and 5 mobs. Throughout the whole run, the pally tank was third place in DPS...that's just insane. Before even the first consecration he would get out, me and the other lock were throwing out seeds. Not ONCE did we pull aggro. That's just a taste of what pwnage we brought to Kara.

A few sides notes about the additional features:

The new threat meter isn't nearly as informative or even helpful as I hoped. It merely tells you that are approaching high threat, losing threat, or are being attacked (which is quite obvious when a mob is punching your face). I really want something that displays exact threat for everyone on a mob's aggro table.

The new Group Calender is just stupid. It does not sync with the guild. If you want to schedule a raid, you have to invite every person individually. That would quite a tedious task when your putting a 25 man together. The only real purpose I see it useful for is displaying holidays, battleground weekends and instance resets.

Blizzard knows what we use our addons for and why. If Blizzard was going to go through the trouble of creating these features, why couldn't they give us the features they know we want. Now, players are still going to be using Omen and Group Calender and all the work those developers did is not worth it.

kara is the ubrs of of bc

Huh? You mean to be sarcastic in saying Kara is uber? I know this. My guild didn't have enough people on to do a 25 man, and we didn't want to screw up a chest run in ZA.

i was only able to get on the servers for about half an hour last night and then my server crashed so i think i am going to wait until tonight after work to try again hopefully it will all be stable again by then.

Wow I just noticed that the Warlock's Chaos Bolt does not do fire damage, but instead, "chaos" damage. :blink: Upon reading more I guess chaos damage exists in other Warcraft games and pierces through all armor, resistances, and shields. However, it does not pierce through reflection..so keep that in mind. Also, I'm wondering if it will not be affected by all the fire damage buffs within the Destruction tree. I would think not since it's purpose just seems to be raw damage, although it should be affected still by Curse of the Elements. Meh, I may go the way of Demonic Sacrifice now...

I didn't get started on the update until late (between working and voting day it was 10:00 server before I even started patching). Listening on vent, it sounded like a bunch of people jumped on recruit-a-friend leveled alts wearing greens/blues/welfare cleared BT up to Shaz. Nobody is playing their mains this week because busted interfaces make the game a lot less fun.

I'll probably take one more trip through Sunwell for the achievement (I don't have any KJ loot) and then call it quits until expansion. I'll work on capping out CC rep, filling in the raid achievements I'm missing, and grinding up some enchanting materials to burn through the first 15-20 levels of the profession.

Also, people are losing pets/mounts left and right: be careful.

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