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My guilds have always done need/greed with a "don't be a prick" policy or pass and then every one /roll, with peer pressure. Sometimes you get mistakes like somebody hitting need when they mean greed but they're so rare that it wasn't worth worrying about. It's only loot: there will be plenty more next week and if it's something rare you can always have a GM ticket fix it.

I can understand getting annoyed at bad luck but I'm playing with people I like: I'm happy when they get new gear.

That seems like the quickest way to make this game completely unfun (apart from the stuff blizzard does).

With the continuing popularity of World of Warcraft user interface add-ons (referred to hereafter as “add-ons”;) created by the community of players, Blizzard Entertainment has formalized design and distribution guidelines for add-ons. These guidelines have been put in place to ensure the integrity of World of Warcraft and to help promote an enjoyable gaming environment for all of our players – failure to abide by them may result in measures up to and including taking formal legal action.

1) Add-ons must be free of charge.

All add-ons must be distributed free of charge. Developers may not create “premium”; versions of add-ons with additional for-pay features, charge money to download an add-on, charge for services related to the add-on, or otherwise require some form of monetary compensation to download or access an add-on.

2) Add-on code must be completely visible.

The programming code of an add-on must in no way be hidden or obfuscated, and must be freely accessible to and viewable by the general public.

3) Add-ons must not negatively impact World of Warcraft realms or other players.

Add-ons will perform no function which, in Blizzard Entertainment’s sole discretion, negatively impacts the performance of the World of Warcraft realms or otherwise negatively affects the game for other players. For example, this includes but is not limited to excessive use of the chat system, unnecessary loading from the hard disk, and slow frame rates.

4) Add-ons may not include advertisements.

Add-ons may not be used to advertise any goods or services.

5) Add-ons may not solicit donations.

Add-ons may not include requests for donations. We recognize the immense amount of effort and resources that go into developing an add-on; however, such requests should be limited to the add-on website or distribution site and should not appear in the game.

6) Add-ons must not contain offensive or objectionable material.

World of Warcraft has been given a “T” by the ESRB, and similar ratings from other ratings boards around the world. Blizzard Entertainment requires that add-ons not include any material that would not be allowed under these ratings.

7) Add-ons must abide by World of Warcraft ToU and EULA.

All add-ons must follow the World of Warcraft Terms of Use and the World of Warcraft End User License Agreement.

8 ) Blizzard Entertainment has the right to disable add-on functionality as it sees fit.

To maintain the integrity World of Warcraft and ensure the best possible gaming experience for our players, Blizzard Entertainment reserves the right to disable any add-on functionality within World of Warcraft at its sole discretion.

For more information…

If you are an add-on developer and have any questions about this User Interface Add-On Development Policy and how it pertains to the add-on that you’ve developed, please don’t hesitate to email us at [email protected].

The official announcement is here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/policy/ui.html

Link http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.h...47207&sid=1

questhelper maker said he is not stopping but just won't update his addon as much

outfitter maker has closed up shop

carbonite maker still not a word

Outfitter no biggie as we will have the same function in 3.1. Questhelper shouldn't be affected as the only thing he does is ask for donations (at the place of download) which Blizzard said it's fine. Carbonite, never saw the reason why you would pay for an addon which you can get for free from others, personally I don't use Carbonite so could care less what happens to it. But I'm sure if they don't comply Blizzard will find some way to prevent the addon from being used.

That said, it is alot of work to produce addons so it blows for people who try to make money/living off 'em, but Blizzard doesn't want people to make profit on code they implemented and allowed to be used within there game.

So I will probably be transferring to a different server, specifically to be with some friends that are ready to start Naxx pretty soon. Looks like I won't have to deal with PuGs anymore. :woot:

I'll be transferring to Spinebreaker, if anybody plays there. I just have to wait till my auctions are up; I don't want to miss out on any gold coming my way :p

I was thinking about playing World of Warcraft again, on a casual level. Since I'm not 100% sure I want to shell out the necessary dough for an activation key and the various expansion, I wanted to give the 14-Day trial a bash and then 'upgrade' that account to a retail account, in case I do decide to keep playing.

Problem is, I really want to give Blood Elves a try but they are locked to TBC as far as I know, so is it possible to create a Blood Elf under the 14-Day trial, perhaps some changes introduced within the last 4 months ( + - ) since I last played? Or do I need a retail WoW account and then the 14-Day TBC Trial?

I did the 10-day Wrath trial when my account was inactive. It gave me full access to all Wrath content and I was able to make a DK (which is what convinced me to play again :p)

Go to the account management page and you should see a link to the trial.

Yeah but there's 3 different trials, one for each expansion - When I start out with nothing, I need to trial vanilla WoW which doesn't have all these new features. Just wanted to know if they made some changes at some point which allowed you to access this sorta contents under the vanilla WoW trial ... You never know :p

( Starting from the ground up because I sold my last account )

I did the 10-day Wrath trial when my account was inactive. It gave me full access to all Wrath content and I was able to make a DK (which is what convinced me to play again :p)

Go to the account management page and you should see a link to the trial.

Damn you DKs clogging up LFG. :p

I recently got back into the game, it's a lot more fun than I remember it being, probably because I can actually raid again. Everything is completed, just waiting for Ulduar.

Yeah but there's 3 different trials, one for each expansion - When I start out with nothing, I need to trial vanilla WoW which doesn't have all these new features. Just wanted to know if they made some changes at some point which allowed you to access this sorta contents under the vanilla WoW trial ... You never know :p

( Starting from the ground up because I sold my last account )

Ah, I see. Well the only thing that's different between the three is the content. BC content includes BE and draenei, and Wrath content includes DKs. Any other new things are there (achievements, etc.).

http://www.amazon.com/World-Warcraft-Battl...c/dp/B000H96C9M

Should only be $25 now that wrath is out

$40 gets ya vanilla and BC, which is pretty cheap. Think you have to have Vanilla already to be able to to BC trial.

I think he meant 76 to 77 given that he says it was 1.6m experience.

I started out planning to play out side this weekend, then the snow

came and ruined it all for me.

I think I might start a 4-6 hour a week 'hardcore' group next weekend.

Make it work sort of like the old bear farming group: show up, clear

all the content, go home. No fire-standing, no drama, no "I don't know

this fight", no "I forgot pots".

I listened on vent as the casual players in my death knights guild spent

14 hours over two days clearing Naxx 25 in a joint run with some other

casual guild. My priest's guild killed everything, doing achievements, on

alts, in a raid of 20 in less than a third of that time.

I might want to be casual right now, but that doesn't mean I've got any

interest in playing with bad players. I also hate hearing things like "I'm

not geared enough for nax-25". Yes you are. If you're 80, you've got

enough gear.

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