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noblegarden removed from calendar, there goes my hopes of patch next Tues :(

I'm aiming at the 12th. There probally finishing out Ulduar, they still need to have a focus test on arena's and a little more on the Argent Tourney. They'll keep Noblegarden, just it might come later than usual this year.

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They won't be tested externally. Kil'jaeden in Sunwell wasn't on the PTR but turned out to be tuned pretty much perfectly on live.

Blizzard can definetly make challenging, perfectly tuned encounters without outside help.

KJ was still an excellent encounter overall--certainly better than M'uru in terms of complexity and fun--but the tuning on M'uru was better and I think that's a result of play testing.

M'uru was hard because it was tightly tuned and extremely punishing. A mistake 30 seconds into the fight might not be paid for until the final seconds in phase 2, but you still got reamed with exactly 4 minutes and 50-seconds of phase 1 before you got to try the real fight again. I'm not sure if anybody managed to kill the final version of M'uru on PTR but the whole "negative energy causes pushback" was extremely unfair to casters and doubly so to guilds that didn't get lucky with war glaives. More extensive play testing would have caught that. After the first round of real nerfs I'd say M'uru was perfectly tuned.

The issue on KJ was always a bad combination of abilities destroying you (images -> darkness -> meteor). I'm sure that's the sort of feedback they'd have gotten from play testing. I also think that by removing the chances for insta-gib they could have increased the DPS requirement (KJ felt tuned about as difficult as brutallus was for guilds just getting to him, he should have been tuned as tightly as M'uru IMO).

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I'd like to bite at the the formation of guild: Neowin. I will create a Preist tonight named Xenos?on (the ? is alt+0237). I'll be watching for anyone in a guild named Neowin or in the channel Neowin and have added everyone's names I have seen listed thus far to sign a charter and get to know my prospect fellow guildies.

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I'd like to bite at the the formation of guild: Neowin. I will create a Preist tonight named Xenos?on (the ? is alt+0237). I'll be watching for anyone in a guild named Neowin or in the channel Neowin and have added everyone's names I have seen listed thus far to sign a charter and get to know my prospect fellow guildies.

The guild is already forme:p:p

Check the first post for the info.

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Any multi boxers around here who could pass along some tips and tricks? I tried dual boxing ( Two accounts, one computer ) and downloaded some software to clone the key presses to both windows, Keyclone in fact. Problem is, it's impossible to control both of them, no matter how much I line them up they tend to eventually start going in separate directions, like account #2 would suddenly not line up and start swerving off a bit to the left - How do you get around this? I was playing in two windows in 800x600, in case some sort of latency issue was at play.

I then did the follow / assist thing which worked okay but it's not a pleasurable experience at all, you constantly have to babysit the other account. Isn't it possible to perfectly clone keys without those latency issues, so you can actually play both accounts or did I just get the wrong impression of multi boxing in general?

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I'd like to bite at the the formation of guild: Neowin. I will create a Preist tonight named Xenos?on (the ? is alt+0237). I'll be watching for anyone in a guild named Neowin or in the channel Neowin and have added everyone's names I have seen listed thus far to sign a charter and get to know my prospect fellow guildies.

i hate people with weird characters and i wouldnt bother invite him/her to the par AT ALLb>. just making people hard to type their names.

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I then did the follow / assist thing which worked okay but it's not a pleasurable experience at all, you constantly have to babysit the other account. Isn't it possible to perfectly clone keys without those latency issues, so you can actually play both accounts or did I just get the wrong impression of multi boxing in general?

If you going to dual box and play both chars, best idea would be mix a dps class with a support class on follow.

1st Char: For doing the actual damage

Warrior

Feral Druid

Rogue

Warlock

Mage

Shadow Priest

Shaman (Elemental/Enchat)

Hunter

Pally

Death knight (Though would be pointless rollings a lvl 1 to pair with DK unless you just powerlevel the lvl 1)

2nd Char: For healing, Buffs, Rezzing, little extra damage like priest dots

Priest

Resto Druid

Resto Shaman

Holy Pally

Basically you do the fight with the first character and then heal it with the second all but eliminating downtime (cept with mage, because it needs to regain mana frequently)

This way it isn't as hard to bounce between windows, since only need the 2nd char after battles or when the **** hits the fan.

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Sethos

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Thank you for the post Ash, I was doing a Blood Elf Paladin + Shaman ( For some healing + lightning ) and it was working okay with the follow / assist system, it just required some babysitting in certain areas and situations, also I barely hit level 10 before my accounts were banned ( Payment rejected ), so I hadn't really learned all the steps and set up the proper macros etc.

I didn't really bounce between the windows, I had just set up two macros on the second account, Follow + Fire lightning and an assist macro. So I just had to hit two extra buttons before I attacked with my Paladin in order to have the Shaman attack as well.

What I meant was, when you see various videos or see screenshots, you see multiboxers have several characters not on follow but working in perfect synchronisation, that's what I'd like to mimic and hear how they manage that?

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the evn show

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Yeah, Lets ignore people who don't speak only English or English as their native language. </sarcasm>

The problem is people like xXk?ll?rXx or jerks trying to knock of somebodies name: L?golas and nonsense like that.

For me, the easy of playing with somebody else trumps having a 'cool' name. It's a social game and I think it's reasonable to try and avoid making it difficult for people to talk, group, or play you (ie: macros for assisting).

My RAF characters aren't exactly wonderfully named but I did intending to rename and re-gender them at 80.

Any multi boxers around here who could pass along some tips and tricks? I tried dual boxing ( Two accounts, one computer ) and downloaded some software to clone the key presses to both windows, Keyclone in fact.

I'm doing it with 2 computers. I just open up the macbook with the 'support' character (druid) helping out with wrath/moonfire while the paladin on the PC melee's things down. The occasional rejuv or regrowth helps when things go bad and judgement of wisdom keeps them both pretty much full mana.

I hit level 25 or 26 last night. I did SFK and RFC and am looking to go through SM:GY tonight or tomorrow. Depending on what the experience is like I might have a friend run them through cathedral a few times and just power level to about level 40.

If my friend/bother are willing to play the druid then we just dual-melee things into oblivion. We did the quest 'dangerous' at level 22 - the quest mobs are 29.

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So yesterday I did a full Naxx 25 run. Took less than 6 hours and the guild I ran with was awesome. No wipes, very few deaths (including me, a couple times -- once was my fault, the other was just bad luck). It was absolutely amazing. I got 3 T7 pieces too!

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3 pieces in one run? Not bad at all :)

Poor epicless me.

Yeah, it was amazing. I regret not getting into raiding before Wrath... Once I hit 70 I didn't feel motivated to gear up for them and I quit. Now I wish I hadn't. Raids are so fun, especially with a good group. I might look into joining the guild that I ran with.

And today I got the last piece of my T7 set, although it was only the 7.1 chest. All I need to do is upgrade my gloves and chest to 7.25. Come Tuesday I'll be doing every 25-man I can. Then I'll work on getting the valor boots, bracers, and ring. I already picked up the cloak.

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6 hours for 1 instance run?

Thank god my subscription ran out, holy **** I couldn't handle that.

Most people don't do it in one night. Raids reset once a week, so you have the full week to pick up where you left off and keep going whenever you'd like.

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