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[nubs]

What do you guys think of this: Widgets of Wow

[Paul]

What do you guys think of this: Widgets of Wow

Bit rubbish tbh :/

[nubs]

Bit rubbish tbh :/

Did you start from the first post?

[dead.cell]

What do you guys think of this: Widgets of Wow

What about it? It's just basically saying everything people are pretty much aware of. Gold sellers / powerleveling etc. is a definite recipe for disaster if you're planning on actually playing the game anywhat seriously. Anything that happens to these people is their own fault, and deserve whatever consequences may come from it.

Personally, I think it's pretty pitiful to buy a game only to pay others to play it. Where's the logic in that? :huh:

[Art3x]

Morons who use power leveling etc are what sucks about the game.

People in full tier 9 doing sub 1k dps in heroics is fail :(

[nubs]

People just want to pwn. I don't think a lot of people care how they get there.

[dead.cell]

People just want to pwn. I don't think a lot of people care how they get there.

They do when it comes at the cost of being thrown in a group with some jackass who can't be bothered to read up on his class. Don't get me wrong, I'm very accepting of newbies, and will point anyone in the right direction when possible. Laziness is just something I cannot tolerate though. :ermm:

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

Morons who use power leveling etc are what sucks about the game.

People in full tier 9 doing sub 1k dps in heroics is fail :(

Not that this relates that much but we had a 70 DK doing almost less damage than the healer the other night, group kicked :laugh: He wasn't even the tank, another DK was. That early WOTLK instance, Uptgard keep? Think he was ****ed because he wanted the axe, but his DPS was terrible. Wish I had taken a screenshot of it.

[Sethos]

Aye, I have seen quite a few players with an abysmal damage output - Even well-geared mages. I think it all comes down to laziness, these sort of players are always the last to

'join' the combat so to speak, waits with charging / firing off spells, only fires one or two frosts bolts in a 5 minute fight, stuff like that - Really takes a toll on the overall damage and the average DPS.

Rule of thumb in the new pick ups is, less than 1k DPS and it's a vote-kick.

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

Aye, I have seen quite a few players with an abysmal damage output - Even well-geared mages. I think it all comes down to laziness, these sort of players are always the last to

'join' the combat so to speak, waits with charging / firing off spells, only fires one or two frosts bolts in a 5 minute fight, stuff like that - Really takes a toll on the overall damage and the average DPS.

Rule of thumb in the new pick ups is, less than 1k DPS and it's a vote-kick.

It's only really mages I fight over DPS with for top spot, mainly due to their really good AOE attacks.

For some reason I seem to be a very good Ret Pally, unless the 20 something groups I've gone with were rubbish but they weren't. At one point an 80 DK was tanking though, he spanked everyone :p

[Sethos]

It's easy to get on top as a Paladin I feel - Basically, most classes have to give some concern to their aggro and will have to moderate their initial damage. I tend to run alongside the tank and be the first guy

to start the DPS, as I have the armour to handle it and abilities to get me out of the fight in case it goes wrong. Not to mention a whole slew of AoE abilities that are working oh physical damage, which tends to be

a bit higher than spell counterparts - From my experience.

So we have it fairly easy when it comes to topping the damage meters. That said, a lot of Paladins tend to focus on only their damage and completely forget they are actually a support class. Using

Blessing of Protection on the healers or other vulnerable classes under attack, light off-tanking to drag mobs back to the tanking circle etc. most Paladins are completely unaware of this fact and only does

DPS.

A well-timed Lay on Hands can save you from a wipe and Divine Intervention saves the group a lot of time - Plus it saves you from an extra repair ( DI doesn't cause gear damage as far as I remember )

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

It's easy to get on top as a Paladin I feel - Basically, most classes have to give some concern to their aggro and will have to moderate their initial damage. I tend to run alongside the tank and be the first guy

to start the DPS, as I have the armour to handle it and abilities to get me out of the fight in case it goes wrong. Not to mention a whole slew of AoE abilities that are working oh physical damage, which tends to be

a bit higher than spell counterparts - From my experience.

So we have it fairly easy when it comes to topping the damage meters. That said, a lot of Paladins tend to focus on only their damage and completely forget they are actually a support class. Using

Blessing of Protection on the healers or other vulnerable classes under attack, light off-tanking to drag mobs back to the tanking circle etc. most Paladins are completely unaware of this fact and only does

DPS.

A well-timed Lay on Hands can save you from a wipe and Divine Intervention saves the group a lot of time - Plus it saves you from an extra repair ( DI doesn't cause gear damage as far as I remember )

Don't worry bro I've been learning my stuff, helping off tank extra mobs, even filling in as healing for a sec or two to help the healer. Divine Intervention has saved us once from a boss wipe where the healer made a mistake, I just brought everyone back :p

I will admit I've not really looked as much into lay on hands and some of the other spells, more just offtanking, pulling aggro away from healers/casters and helping healing.

But I'm certainly not a numbskull Pally that just goes DPS DPS DPS DPS! I watch things around me and the group.

Really enjoying playing as a Pala, regardless of how many of them you tend to see now, it's what I want to play. Not much down time and some flexibility in roles - That's what got me bored of my hunter, the same old send in pet sit and dps from range, then mage downtime done my head in through levelling so my mage is only 52 or something.

Not that early Pally levelling was much better, same old spells/attacks rinse/repeat but I find something more enjoyable about melee damage over ranged :p Probably all the bad ass melee weapons, most guns/bows tend to look stupid.

[Sethos]

Wasn't meant to be a poke at you, just a little side story :laugh:

You do really need to look into Lay on Hands, it's probably one of our most useful abilities in these random PuGs because it happens quite often a wiped is caused by a

healer not paying attention for a second, tank does and then a domino effect sets in. If you can stop that domino effect, it saves you time and frustration.

I do have to say, almost all classes are pretty exciting at 80 - They all suffer from the rinse & repeat aspect during levelling but the amount of spells and abilities

you gain at the higher levels more than make up for it. I'd even go as far as saying the Paladin is ( one of ) the least exciting class or, was the least exciting class when it comes to "fun" abilities.

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

Wasn't meant to be a poke at you, just a little side story :laugh:

You do really need to look into Lay on Hands, it's probably one of our most useful abilities in these random PuGs because it happens quite often a wiped is caused by a

healer not paying attention for a second, tank does and then a domino effect sets in. If you can stop that domino effect, it saves you time and frustration.

I do have to say, almost all classes are pretty exciting at 80 - They all suffer from the rinse & repeat aspect during levelling but the amount of spells and abilities

you gain at the higher levels more than make up for it. I'd even go as far as saying the Paladin is ( one of ) the least exciting class or, was the least exciting class when it comes to "fun" abilities.

I cannot be dicked leveling any more characters for a long loooong time :p May pickup on my mage one day, he's at 50 something, but the hunter at 75, cba don't like playing as a Hunter.

[Sethos]

Perhaps one day we can start a character together and actually level together, instead of miles apart - Believe me, that makes levelling so much easier, so much more fun

and you actually don't care about the "levelling" part so to speak. At least as a side project to our main characters.

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

Perhaps one day we can start a character together and actually level together, instead of miles apart - Believe me, that makes levelling so much easier, so much more fun

and you actually don't care about the "levelling" part so to speak. At least as a side project to our main characters.

True man true, I'd be up for that one day, just want to enjoy WOTLK content for now and get to 80 :)

[Sethos]

True man true, I'd be up for that one day, just want to enjoy WOTLK content for now and get to 80 :)

Yeah, I still need to collect some Stone Keeper's Shards and Emblems for the Heirloom gear (Y)

[Stokkolm]

Can you link your Armory Sethos and Audioboxer...mine is in the sig :)

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

Can you link your Armory Sethos and Audioboxer...mine is in the sig :)

Ayres - http://eu.wowarmory....hronos&cn=Ayres

Can't believe there's so many people with my name, I took it from a fairly well known ambient composer, then thought "res" in the title was quite suitable for a Paladin :p

I'll need to add a WoW icon to my icons in my sig.

Any tips are welcome first time playing Pala, and started with little gold, so I've built myself up from scratch just about.

[Sethos]

Can you link your Armory Sethos and Audioboxer...mine is in the sig :)

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Anachronos&cn=Raphiroz - It's a guy I started playing again two - three weeks ago, so gear is far from impressive and I have no plans

on raiding on him, so he's just being used as a "casual" guy.

[Stokkolm]

Ayres - http://eu.wowarmory....hronos&cn=Ayres

Can't believe there's so many people with my name, I took it from a fairly well known ambient composer, then thought "res" in the title was quite suitable for a Paladin :p

I'll need to add a WoW icon to my icons in my sig.

Any tips are welcome first time playing Pala, and started with little gold, so I've built myself up from scratch just about.

Awesome, I really had a lot of fun getting my Paladin to where he is now. If you have any specific questions I would be happy to answer them.

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Anachronos&cn=Raphiroz - It's a guy I started playing again two - three weeks ago, so gear is far from impressive and I have no plans

on raiding on him, so he's just being used as a "casual" guy.

These days I usually only go on my Paladin to do my Jewelcrafting and Cooking dailies and get my two frost emblems and then switch back to my druid. I got burned out a bit on tanking, I'm having fun healing with the druid right now. Here's the Armory link for the druid: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Madoran&cn=Baharak

I'm not sure if you're aware, but you can buy T-9(10) gear from the QM at the Argent Tournament grounds. He is the one sitting outside the entrance to the raid side of the arena. You can get a full four piece set from him with your emblems of triumph.

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

Awesome, I really had a lot of fun getting my Paladin to where he is now. If you have any specific questions I would be happy to answer them.

One thing I've always wondered is it really beneficial having blacksmithing as a Paladin?

Reason I ask is I'm unsure about my future/guilds/raids etc, basically in all the time I've played WoW I've only done 5 mans, been in 2 crap guilds, and done one random PUG I think you call it.

So I'm thinking is the gear I can eventually make at least going to be a bit better than stuff I'd get from 5 mans? It just takes so much to level blacksmithing, as you can see from my profile my mining is way ahead :p

And then for a Paladin, better specializing in Armorsmith or Weaponsmith?

(Y)

[Sethos]

Believe me, you won't be able to make any gear better than 5-Man heroic drops, not unless you get the insane priced plans and then you need to pay for the materials which also costs an arm and a leg.

Not even sure you can buy the iLevel 264 Plans, aren't they BoP?

EDIT: Starting to get sick and tired of the random formatting when you add a reply, it takes a random part of a sentence and moves it down to the

next line, forcing you to edit constantly.

[Stokkolm]

You'll definitely be able to craft better gear than you'll be able to get from Heroics. I was using a crafted Mace forever before I finally replaced it with the two-handed axe from H ToC. The biggest bonus of being a blacksmith, especially if you think you might raid, is that you can make gem slots for your hands and wrists in addition to the socket that everyone can get from a BS for their belts. That is why I'm a JC/BS, so once I get my BS maxed I have two additional gem slots along with my three JC only gems. I'm using my DK as my ore farmer, but it's slow going since he's only level 60 right now :p

[Sethos]

I'd love to see what gear he can craft that's better than Heroic drops these days, without paying a million gold for it?