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http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Quel'dorei&cn=Strokr

There is my Hunter. Love playing as one. Right now i'm getting emblems to get heirloom gear for my Priest. Still undecided if I want to do heals or DPS. It's hard getting in to ICC now with a hunter, everyone is always asking for Priest/Mage/Lock :(

Really?, I do fine on my server. *shrug*

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Wow, it seems like everyone is Alliance...I feel surrounded :shiftyninja:

Dont worry, I'm Horde too, and I can one shot these guys :p

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I am a Horde player by heart, though I'd pick playing with friends over stubbornness of faction choice any day, right now I'm playing Alliance just to be on the same server

and side as Audioboxer.

Miss the Orcs and Taurens :(

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Faction change gogogo!

I played Alliance and the amount of good manners and people helping each other made me want to vomit lol

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Not putting any more money into WoW besides the subscription, ever. He has a friend playing Alliance, so he's playing Alliance and then I'm playing Alliance - Bit of a Domino effect.

Although, I hope I can lure him into starting a new character on the same server, but as Horde instead. We talked about starting two new characters once he gets enough of Northend. So hopefully he'll be up to starting a Horde character, just to see something different, some different areas.

Not to mention you can actually mail Heirloom items from an Alliance character to a Horde Character if yours, if on the same server (Y)

( Also works the other way around of course )

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Not putting any more money into WoW besides the subscription, ever. He has a friend playing Alliance, so he's playing Alliance and then I'm playing Alliance - Bit of a Domino effect.

Although, I hope I can lure him into starting a new character on the same server, but as Horde instead. We talked about starting two new characters once he gets enough of Northend. So hopefully he'll be up to starting a Horde character, just to see something different, some different areas.

Not to mention you can actually mail Heirloom items from an Alliance character to a Horde Character if yours, if on the same server (Y)

( Also works the other way around of course )

If you're talking about me can you start a horde character on the same server???

I'll be up for that from a change with a buddy, I'd hate to learn all the horde places and what not on my own, which is mainly why I've stuck with Alliance.... and when I changed server my friend was Alliance. I've always thought the more immature people think horde is bad-ass but to be fair with 10m+ people you'll get jackasses on both sides.

Sorry I wasn't on last night, some complication with the relatives, pretty serious I wasn't even in the house.

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If you're talking about me can you start a horde character on the same server???

I'll be up for that from a change with a buddy, I'd hate to learn all the horde places and what not on my own, which is mainly why I've stuck with Alliance.... and why I changed server my friend was Alliance. I've always thought the more immature people think horde is bad-ass but to be fair with 10m+ people you'll get jackasses on both sides.

Sorry I wasn't on last night, some complication with the relatives, pretty serious I wasn't even in the house.

Yes, it's possible on a PvE server.

As for maturity, while it's an unknown I'd say the general consensus is; Alliance players are usually more immature - Mainly because of the "Oh they are pretty!" aspect, which is why they added Blood Elfs to the Horde faction, to give them a "Pretty" race. From my own experience, it is true that Alliance seem a lot more immature but it varies.

However, only one little problem with the server we're on; there's barely any Horde players from what I've seen :laugh: So not sure how attractive it is to start a character there. We could always find us another place to start up.

And don't worry, I wasn't on either last night :p I got caught up in Mass Effect 2, slowly coming towards the end and it's getting real good now.

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Yes, it's possible on a PvE server.

As for maturity, while it's an unknown I'd say the general consensus is; Alliance players are usually more immature - Mainly because of the "Oh they are pretty!" aspect, which is why they added Blood Elfs to the Horde faction, to give them a "Pretty" race. From my own experience, it is true that Alliance seem a lot more immature but it varies.

However, only one little problem with the server we're on; there's barely any Horde players from what I've seen :laugh: So not sure how attractive it is to start a character there. We could always find us another place to start up.

And don't worry, I wasn't on either last night :p I got caught up in Mass Effect 2, slowly coming towards the end and it's getting real good now.

Either way I'd say the PVP servers are probably the worst for maturity, constant low level ganking and people just annoying the hell out of you - Okay it is a PVP server, you choose it, but it get's annoying when a level 60 is camping your level 30 body "for a laugh". I joined a PVP server first time I ever got WoW :laugh:

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Either way I'd say the PVP servers are probably the worst for maturity, constant low level ganking and people just annoying the hell out of you - Okay it is a PVP server, you choose it, but it get's annoying when a level 60 is camping your level 30 body "for a laugh". I joined a PVP server first time I ever got WoW :laugh:

That doesn't happen as much as what it used to on PVP servers, however when Cataclysm comes out, and epic mounts become the norm in Azeroth, expect alot of level 85's beating down on the starting areas...

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Either way I'd say the PVP servers are probably the worst for maturity, constant low level ganking and people just annoying the hell out of you - Okay it is a PVP server, you choose it, but it get's annoying when a level 60 is camping your level 30 body "for a laugh". I joined a PVP server first time I ever got WoW :laugh:

I wasn't planning on a PvP server either but I do want to find another PvE server with a bigger Horde population (Y)

I'll send you a PM, got a few questions regarding this.

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Either way I'd say the PVP servers are probably the worst for maturity, constant low level ganking and people just annoying the hell out of you - Okay it is a PVP server, you choose it, but it get's annoying when a level 60 is camping your level 30 body "for a laugh". I joined a PVP server first time I ever got WoW :laugh:

Yeah, many times the maturity level on PvP servers is in the sh---er. That's how I ended up on Emerald Dream (RP-PVP), as it seems to have the maturity and the PvP aspects I'm looking for, with actually very few RPers. The ones who do appear legit too, not just cyberfags like Argent Dawn. :uberhump: Plus, it's balanced quite well, with alliance having a slight upperhand.

Honestly though, as soon as I got used to a PvP server... it's really hard to go back. It's nice to be able to run people off from your territory so you can continue gathering in piece, as opposed to not being able to do jack about those taking your nodes. :p

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That doesn't happen as much as what it used to on PVP servers, however when Cataclysm comes out, and epic mounts become the norm in Azeroth, expect alot of level 85's beating down on the starting areas...

i doubt it

we'll probably be phased so we can't see the n00bs

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Got Tribute to Mad Skill last night in ToGC 25, we followed that up with a 1% wipe on Blood Queen Lan'ietel. :pinch:

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Got Tribute to Mad Skill last night in ToGC 25, we followed that up with a 1% wipe on Blood Queen Lan'ietel. :pinch:

Missed that yesterday in 10 mans but 100k. Gave up once we used that 45th attempt.

Did manage to finally get around to doing a Sar 3d zerg. Stupid easy even when backpacking a sub-par DPS and an nub tank.

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For those interested MMO-Champion has a link to the final cinematic after the lich king fight...

WARNING: CONTAINS SPOILERS - DO NOT CLICK IF YOU WANT THE SURPISE!

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Hey guys. I am about 7 or 8 days into my 10 day trial of WOW. So far, so good, and learning somewhat quickly. However, a friend of mine has also recommended trying out Guild Wars, and he mentioned it doesn't have a monthly fee.

Any thoughts on the pros and cons of each?

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New VoA boss is easy. Just make sure tanks switch at a lower stack when Whiteout is at 50-75% and it makes it easier. Or just let one die and BR with no stacks of whiteout. :p

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I also hate that they are making the Heroic Dungeon bosses even easier. It was already Easy Mode now its just pointless.

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I also hate that they are making the Heroic Dungeon bosses even easier. It was already Easy Mode now its just pointless.

Heroics serve no purpose now rather than gearing ppl for raids. There is no point in making them more pointless and time consuming.

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Heroics serve no purpose now rather than gearing ppl for raids. There is no point in making them more pointless and time consuming.

Agreed the difficulty they had was replaced when you had full badge/T7.10 geear. The achievements related to bosses became easy once you had T7.25 gear (assuming your skilled and not the 800dps I kept running into in random dungeon with full ilvl 232 gear). I ran 'em once a day for 2 Frost Emblems and after that it's getitng more triumphs for more epic gems to use/sell. Running with three guildies (tank/healer/dps) I can do all heroics in 15 minutes max (the most delay being CoT cuz of RP) even if the other two dps can't break 1k. Making 'em faster if the best thing they can do.

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Making 'em faster if the best thing they can do.

I disagree. I'd prefer they made heroics fun (and rewarding) instead of making them slightly faster to get through. If you run 5 heroics an hour you're still doing an hour of not-fun content.

IMO the best thing they could do would be to tune them to "Patch 2.0, Welcome to shadow labs: make yourself comfortable because you'll be here for 3 hours" difficulty and have them drop appropriate loot / frost badges.

I think they could start somewhere around the "5-manning Tier 7 raids" and scale up to "Remember when we said we'd never make another M'uru? We lied." Call it "Epic" difficulty or something. Leave "heroic" mode for badge farming 232 and have the new harder stuff assume you've got every possible heroic mode upgrade you can get.

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