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[Sethos]

Yeah, I met quite a lot of people with that same opinion - They, unfortunately, also seem to be the kind of people sitting secluded in the corner, have zero self-esteem and have no people skills whatsoever. Not saying that goes for you and it's even a gross generalization but it always seem to ring true for the 'hardcore' WoW players I meet.

[Minifig]

Yeah, I met quite a lot of people with that same opinion - They, unfortunately, also seem to be the kind of people sitting secluded in the corner, have zero self-esteem and have no people skills whatsoever. Not saying that goes for you and it's even a gross generalization but it always seem to ring true for the 'hardcore' WoW players I meet.

Heh, I'm not a hard-core wow player by any means. I quit for six months, and I can quit at anytime.. and I'm one of the biggest people persons you can meet (unless it's HUGE crowds.. then I get really claustrophobic).. but I'm always one to try and mingle.

[Dark Ride]

That is a nice UI, I just finished updating mine tonight, ill post a screenie tomorrow when our guild raids ICC. :)

Thanks. I've re-uploaded the UI package and this time I included some instructions (Link).

Btw, how's your raid progress in ICC?

I've just joined the best guild on my realm (Synergy on Ahn'Qiraj EU) yesterday and we did ICC25. Downed 8 bosses with only one minor wipe on Putricide and then went on to kill the new boss, Valithria Dreamwalker. As I mentioned earlier, nice fight but I expected more versatility (i.e. more phases/mechanics) in the fight. Regardless, we downed her on our 4th try. That about concluded a nice relaxed raid night.

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Thanks. How's your guild progress?

I've just joined the best guild on my realm (Synergy on Ahn'Qiraj EU) yesterday and we did ICC25. Downed 8 bosses with only one minor wipe on Putricide and then went on to kill the new boss, Valithria Dreamwalker. As I mentioned earlier, nice fight but I expected more versatility (i.e. more phases/mechanics) in the fight. Regardless, we downed her on our 4th try. That about concluded a nice relaxed raid night.

Our guild is doing pretty well. Done ICC upto Putricide in 10 Man and our casual progressive (We are not a hardcore raiding guild) are currently upto the Festergut. Hoping to have a few more of the new bosses downed tomorrow. (The Prophetic Order on Blackrock - link is in sig).

Took a screenie too of my current UI in solo mode, I think its a little less busy then yours :)

Ill try and explain what does what in a raid setting too.

Top left, Carbonite map dissapears automatically.

Top left - Grid appears showing people in raid with a health/mana/energry/rage bar. Highest threat gets a red border. Grid layout changes if I choose my healer alt.

Bottom left - Guild, Friends, Time bar turns into a threat meter.

Bottom right - Skada window shows up - shows top 7 dps/damage skinned to look like UI.

Actionbars on right show on mouseover for things like pots, hearthstone, mining, fishing, jewelcrafting etc. (also happens in solo mode) Based off Tuk UI and it only uses 8.7mb of memory. :)

[Noveed]

So Ensidia get world First on 25 man Arthas... Apparently they exploited something they didnt know was exploitable and now they are banned. LOL Poor people Blizzard releases a half assed game filled with bugs and its players who pay the price for not intentionally exploiting.

I would expect compensation for that or free time back, you pay the sub fees that go towards servers and dev's getting paid for doing thier job, if they are not doing it they should get laid off.

[the evn show]

I'm sorry to come over all condescending but WoW is such a taboo subject these days and you will be considered a loser of epic proportions among your peers

and probably among most sane people as well when you announce that you are, in fact, a World of Warcraft player.

Where are you hanging out? High-school locker rooms and fundamentalist Christian day-camps?

But all power to you my friend if you can wear stuff like that in public and stand by the fact you play WoW and still keep your head high - I couldn't.

I can't imagine living in fear that someone would find out I play a video game. I'd be more embarrassed to fart in public.

More people play warcraft on any given day than will watch an NHL play-off game. There are more subscribers to warcraft in North America than there are season-ticket and 'subscription-tv' viewers of NBA and NFL games.

Would you also be embarrassed to talk about the Colts/Saints game this weekend?

[Sethos]

Where are you hanging out? High-school locker rooms and fundamentalist Christian day-camps?

I can't imagine living in fear that someone would find out I play a video game. I'd be more embarrassed to fart in public.

More people play warcraft on any given day than will watch an NHL play-off game. There are more subscribers to warcraft in North America than there are season-ticket and 'subscription-tv' viewers of NBA and NFL games.

Would you also be embarrassed to talk about the Colts/Saints game this weekend?

I know it's hard for someone like you, a complete WoW fanatic to see the truth but what I'm saying is not something just grabbed thin air, it's

actually how the world works; look around you - Every time someone talks WoW in public there's always someone to laugh or make a hurtful comment, WoW is being

mocked in the public media, it's being mocked by every day people and even gamers will take World of Warcraft players down a notch or two.

This is just how the world looks at the game because it has got one of the worst reputation you can possibly get in the mind of a lot of people and there's

plenty of cases to support their reasoning. World of Warcraft can be an addictive cocktail that has ruined many lives, I think most people with a solid number of

friends have seen some of them basically withdraw themselves from anything social after they started playing WoW, I personally know a few.

I've even seen a friend lose his job, home and most of his friends to this game.

World of Warcraft not only rots people's minds but it has also attracted basically every annoying element from the real world, so socially it can feel like a complete

cesspool and feel like retard-hangout. So World of Warcraft attracts the worst kind and it has also converted people to empty shells basically.

Yes, some people know how to manage this bla. bla bla. but this is the public image of World of Warcraft and I don't protest that image for a second

because I've seen it all, everything said about the game is true and that's despite I'm actually playing it actively myself.

So comparing that image to sports is pretty god damn daft and no, I'm not living in fear because you'd have to be pretty damn hooked to accidentally

start talking about your World of Warcraft experience in the middle of a conversation; you just shut the hell up about it in public so people won't

think you are a complete loser like you would shut the hell up about everything else weird you do within the confines of your home.

What I'm saying is sure to cause a bit of an uproar but at least I can stand by the reality and not go all "PC" and as I said earlier, it's still a

generalization but that point is quite moot when we're talking public image. So no, I'm not living in fear and I just try very hard not to embarrass myself

around friends and strangers and peeing your pants, picking your nose, falling over yourself or saying that you play World of Warcraft are great

things to avoid in order not to do that.

[Spacce]

In some situations I guess I'm more embarrassed that I don't watch sports, but don't really care in the end. I usually just nod my head and smile alot. And if they ask I just say I don't watch sports.

most of my friends are usually gamer geeks, so they either play WoW, play another game like Eve , Warhammer, or maybe Aion or Star Trek Online. So I am usually am not the first to bring it up..

I play regularly, but I don't consider my an addict. My game patterns usually different then most, I have an 80 but I rarely run instances, I have a level 80 DK and haven't ran any heroics , heck I didn't even run any regular instances leveling up. I don't care for pvp, nor raiding. Heck I play horde yet I despise blood elves the most (no I don't play one), and I really dislike DK's but I play one because it was the fastest way to get a character to 80. Right now I'm working on old world achievements, and getting money for raise a warrior up.

I am neither embarrassed nor ashamed I play wow though, I might not have the perfect life but who is anyone to judge my life, and as I am getting older I seriously just don't care what other think of me.

So kudos to the person who is wearing the WoW gear.

[I am Redbeard]

So kudos to the person who is wearing the WoW gear.

+1

It takes more balls to actually be who you are then to pretend, or disacknowledge your own hobbies and interests.

[Hedon]

I am neither embarrassed nor ashamed I play wow though, I might not have the perfect life but who is anyone to judge my life, and as I am getting older I seriously just don't care what other think of me.

I mostly game on weekends. I would say I get about 8 hours of gaming in a week (some times MANY more hours, sometimes none). While it's not a ton, it's more than most of my friends and family play games. I am 38 years old, with a wife and son, and I "used" to be embarrassed to tell people I like playing video games. As I got older, I realized this is MY life, and that is how I am going to live it. I don't care what they think. Granted, I love and play sports too, but even if I didn't, I wouldn't care what others thought. Who are they to judge me on my hobbies?

Well stated spacce

[nubs]

My wife knew I was a gamer before we started dating. I think to a certain extent she likes that I have a hobby that has nothing to do with her. she likes the ability to just read for hours and not be bothered, I like the ability to play games for hours and not be bothered. At the end of the night we come together and talk about our day and maybe watch a little american idol together. People need to be able to have fun and not be judged for it.

[Slane]

I know it's hard for someone like you, a complete WoW fanatic to see the truth but what I'm saying is not something just grabbed thin air, it's

actually how the world works; look around you - Every time someone talks WoW in public there's always someone to laugh or make a hurtful comment, WoW is being

mocked in the public media, it's being mocked by every day people and even gamers will take World of Warcraft players down a notch or two.

This is just how the world looks at the game because it has got one of the worst reputation you can possibly get in the mind of a lot of people and there's

plenty of cases to support their reasoning. World of Warcraft can be an addictive cocktail that has ruined many lives, I think most people with a solid number of

friends have seen some of them basically withdraw themselves from anything social after they started playing WoW, I personally know a few.

I've even seen a friend lose his job, home and most of his friends to this game.

World of Warcraft not only rots people's minds but it has also attracted basically every annoying element from the real world, so socially it can feel like a complete

cesspool and feel like retard-hangout. So World of Warcraft attracts the worst kind and it has also converted people to empty shells basically.

Yes, some people know how to manage this bla. bla bla. but this is the public image of World of Warcraft and I don't protest that image for a second

because I've seen it all, everything said about the game is true and that's despite I'm actually playing it actively myself.

So comparing that image to sports is pretty god damn daft and no, I'm not living in fear because you'd have to be pretty damn hooked to accidentally

start talking about your World of Warcraft experience in the middle of a conversation; you just shut the hell up about it in public so people won't

think you are a complete loser like you would shut the hell up about everything else weird you do within the confines of your home.

What I'm saying is sure to cause a bit of an uproar but at least I can stand by the reality and not go all "PC" and as I said earlier, it's still a

generalization but that point is quite moot when we're talking public image. So no, I'm not living in fear and I just try very hard not to embarrass myself

around friends and strangers and peeing your pants, picking your nose, falling over yourself or saying that you play World of Warcraft are great

things to avoid in order not to do that.

Don't think Evn is WoW fanatic (at least not that bad).

Secondly pretty ****ty friend that lets one of his friends loose a job over a game. Same with parents/significant other etc. And must be a person with some pretty low self-esteem and no self-control to allow themselves to loose a job (and whatever else) to a video game. To me it's all on the person not the game.

[GreenMartian]

Well I work in an office full of nerds that play different kinds of stuff, share anime on the public drive, etc. Guess which of them gets teased most? That's right. The guy who plays WoW. :pinch: It's all in good spirit though.

[Sethos]

Well I work in an office full of nerds that play different kinds of stuff, share anime on the public drive, etc. Guess which of them gets teased most? That's right. The guy who plays WoW. :pinch: It's all in good spirit though.

Yeah, among friends and colleagues it won't turn into a hurtful thing, not in a relationship either but it really does get bad once you start taking the age group

down a few notches. Schools, college, and among peers in that age group ( Teenagers and above ). I think we can all agree, that exact age-group can be the spiteful

bunch of people and in today's world it is a lot worse.

The amount of WoW players I've come across the last few years makes a very long list but at the same time, the amount of WoW players who seem to be sort of proud of the fact they play this game can almost be counted on one hand and not surprisingly, each and every one of those players were part of the 'hardcore' players that plays for many hours a day and seem to have let the game take over their lives.

The 'casual' players who mostly just leaves out mentioning the fact they play the game never caught any flack beyond the occasional fib and good spirited joke but beyond that they seemed like well-adjusted, normal people. Yet oddly enough - The hardcore people, those people who seem proud and actually wear WoW inspired clothing has to be the most sad individuals I have ever come across; Social skills are non-existent, they have no self-esteem whatsoever, they tend to be very lonely and a few of them lied about having a girlfriend.

Now the latter are the exact sort of people they tend to be the mental image the public has about the game, the basement beasts of the abyss. And basically, what you are doing when you wear WoW clothing in public or start babbling on about the game to people who aren't World of Warcraft will instantly get this mental picture of you and it's a hard one to shake, you will also hear for it.

So for the social group I'm being pitted against, It saves myself a whole world of trouble by just laying low about the fact that I play World of Warcraft and the people I know feel exactly the same way; it's a taboo among my general peers and being teased, bullied, talked trash to or being some sort of outcast because of a silly game I'd much rather just shut up about the fact that I play it and not draw unnecessary attention to myself by wearing merchandise clothing, which is where it started.

It all depends who you are with, what sort of age-group you in and where you want to show the love for a game.

Also, I fully agree with the fact that it's the people themselves that are to blame when they let their lives go to the toilet which isn't really the point, the point is

I don't want to associate myself to a game like this in public. I will however say I'm a proud gamer and I am a nerd but I will deny any involvement with this game.

Though, slane; blaming me for him not helping when he has no self-control is just as bad as blaming the game for having done it to him.

I don't meant to insult anyone around here and I apologize if I do, just trying to have a conversation regarding this and see how people feel about it, see

the reactions they get from friends, family, colleagues and even strangers based on their age and such.

[Art3x]

Honestly, who the hell cares what anyone thinks of them?

W/e people are going to have negative ideas about anything they don't understand, if you aren't strong enough in your convictions to not care then that's your problem.

I talk about it all the time and if anyone tries to talk crap, I ask them what they do for a hobby. Most of them drink or gamble. I think my hobby/habit is > that. :whistle:

[Slane]

Though, slane; blaming me for him not helping when he has no self-control is just as bad as blaming the game for having done it to him.

Wasn't blaming you, just stating what I think would be applied here the same for alcoholics/druggies etc.

I'm not ashamed I play WoW. I don't go around and tell people, but if someone asks I say yes. Could give a **** less what they think. It doesn't affect my life in anyway, except it's how I occupy myself on some days in my spare/free time. It shouldn't' matter pass that.

[Sethos]

Wasn't blaming you, just stating what I think would be applied here the same for alcoholics/druggies etc.

I'm not ashamed I play WoW. I don't go around and tell people, but if someone asks I say yes. Could give a **** less what they think. It doesn't affect my life in anyway, except it's how I occupy myself on some days in my spare/free time. It shouldn't' matter pass that.

Perhaps but I don't think WoW has the same addictive effect like alcohol, drugs and the like to warrant an intervention. That's just a matter of having no self-control whatsoever.

As for my posts, I'm not trying to make anyone feel ashamed or anything like that; just trying to elaborate on the points I made to minfig why I couldn't do

what he does. Just to clarify, I did talk about World of Warcraft with friends and even play with friends it's just a matter of not being associated with a bad image

among people I'm less familiar with because no matter how high I hold my head, how noble I try to be by sticking to my 'interests' and not caring what other people think,

it'll still come back to bite me in the ass because people in my age-group can be ######.

So it's about 1000% easier to just take a sidestep, just don't talk about it or mention it and it can save you a potential headache.

[Minifig]

Out of all the things I wish I'd recorded..

This is one of the biggest..

My Guild did it's first (test) Raid tonight to see how our mechanics work together.

After two failures on him because of some weird glitches, we downed him with three seconds left on his enrage timer.

THREE SECONDS.

:laugh:

Makes me so proud.

[Slane]

Grats to you minifig.

But that has to be some of the lowest dps i've seen in a long, long, long time. :/

[Prosidius]

Based on that DPS 1 of me can do more DPS than the top 3 of you combined. :p

[Minifig]

But that has to be some of the lowest dps i've seen in a long, long, long time. :/

I just reset the dps for the new fight that time around.. so it's bound to be low..

We also were getting kinda tired.

[Xilo]

People still do Naxxramas? Unless you're going for achievements, it's pretty much a waste of time now...

On another note. It's been 3 months since I quit WoW cold turkey and MMOs for good. Feels good after wasting the past 7 years of my life on them.

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As requested, Raid UI :)

[Minifig]

People still do Naxxramas? Unless you're going for achievements, it's pretty much a waste of time now...

On another note. It's been 3 months since I quit WoW cold turkey and MMOs for good. Feels good after wasting the past 7 years of my life on them.

Did you not read that it was just a test to see how well our guild performs together under pressure?

[Slane]

Did you not read that it was just a test to see how well our guild performs together under pressure?

Good reason. Go faceroll an easy instance to see how raiders of your guild would work together. Makes sense, but if that's the DPS ya'll pulled on Thad, then everyone needs to work on rotation, proper talents, and gearing. Serious, no offense man but as a warrior tank running Naxx10 in a mixture of T6/Heroic gear, the Tuesday after LK launch, I was pulling 2.5k DPS on the fight. The dps I had was usually upward of 4-5k. With anyone being able to snag T9 and other accessories via badge gear (and lower badge gear) you should all be higher. No offense meant, but I would personalyl push to have that raised.