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I think that holds true for many classes. ;)

While that is true I think it's just because many people who've had no tanking experience get a DK rolled at 58 straight away is it? Then are still a bit dodgy in the 70's or whatever, especially if they follow a levelling guide then start tanking in higher instances out of the blue.

A mage was telling one of our DKs how to actually hold aggro, as he didn't know how to at all, /facepalm. Level 71 I think. I'm not abusive or angry with these people I happily help them as well, but it's just a wee bit annoying at times when you wait in the queue for LFG for 30 minutes then get someone who seems to have just started playing WoW today tanking in higher level instances.

Just glad I'm finally the tank, because that's always the main problem in groups; rubbish tanks. Not to mention they are now the hardest class to find in the LFG system, so it's such a gamble.

I'm getting a lot of praise for my tanking, which always puts a smile on your face :)

Just glad I'm finally the tank, because that's always the main problem in groups; rubbish tanks. Not to mention they are now the hardest class to find in the LFG system, so it's such a gamble.

I'm getting a lot of praise for my tanking, which always puts a smile on your face :)

Still trying to pull me over? :p

I will one day when finances aren't so tight and I've hit 80. In the meantime if I do get bored I'll create a new character on the server for a bit, but moving the Paladin would be best (Y)

And yeah I definitely praise a good tank, couple of them have had to rely on me at times for aggro management/keeping the healer alive, but that should be expected of a Paladin, even if DPS. Lay on Hands as I've come to realise is very helpful ;)

Also loving how I'm topping all the DPS meters, only beat once by a really good shadow priest.

I'd love to get an 'appropriate' tank on my characters. About half the time the people are good players but they simply can't hold threat against a T10-geared mage. When single casts are critting for > 20,000 you really need to have a tank that can keep up with threat. I end up spending most of the instance "Wait?Wait?Arcane Blast, Missile Barrage?Iceblock?Wait?Arcane Bast?Slow+Blink?Wait?etc." The other half of the time I'm stuck with "tanks" that are really just DPS trying to jump the queue. They take so much damage and fail to hold on to anything; the healer remains constantly out of mana. You spend most of the instance waiting for people to drink.

My priest (who's also passably geared) tends to end up grouped with 50,000 HP tanks and 3 sub-2k DPS classes. I toss a renew every 15 seconds and then stand around while the pull takes 25-minutes to die. Sure I can toss some smites - but that isn't fun. If I wanted to DPS I'd do it on the class I levelled for that purpose.

I swear the LFG system looks at your gear and says "Hrm?6,000 DPS mage? Let's put that with the fresh-80 tank so that things die so fast the tank doesn't take any damage". If you queue as a healer or Tank it'll say "Hrm, Tier 10 geared healer? Let's team that up with the TOGC25 geared tank and the 3 fresh-80 DPS so that they can just bore the mobs to death by outlasting them".

Bad players are around and it sucks to get stuck with them. It sucks even more to get stuck with 'good' players that just don't have gear that's appropriate to the group. There's no better way to bore a healer, or make a tank feel useless than by pairing them with 4 other people that they just can't work with.

Still trying to pull me over? :p

I will one day when finances aren't so tight and I've hit 80. In the meantime if I do get bored I'll create a new character on the server for a bit, but moving the Paladin would be best (Y)

And yeah I definitely praise a good tank, couple of them have had to rely on me at times for aggro management/keeping the healer alive, but that should be expected of a Paladin, even if DPS. Lay on Hands as I've come to realise is very helpful ;)

Also loving how I'm topping all the DPS meters, only beat once by a really good shadow priest.

Nah, I gave up the last time I asked :laugh:

I just found a new annoying problem, I re-installed Windows a few days ago and now my FPS is struggling. I could hit 100FPS+ easily in Northend and now I log in and I'm skipping about

at 20-30 FPS. Turn down shadows and a few effects I had problems with the last time and it's the same, I turn off CrossFire in CCC and it's still the same ... Arg!

I'd love to get an 'appropriate' tank on my characters. About half the time the people are good players but they simply can't hold threat against a T10-geared mage. When single casts are critting for > 20,000 you really need to have a tank that can keep up with threat. I end up spending most of the instance "Wait?Wait?Arcane Blast, Missile Barrage?Iceblock?Wait?Arcane Bast?Slow+Blink?Wait?etc." The other half of the time I'm stuck with "tanks" that are really just DPS trying to jump the queue. They take so much damage and fail to hold on to anything; the healer remains constantly out of mana. You spend most of the instance waiting for people to drink.

My priest (who's also passably geared) tends to end up grouped with 50,000 HP tanks and 3 sub-2k DPS classes. I toss a renew every 15 seconds and then stand around while the pull takes 25-minutes to die. Sure I can toss some smites - but that isn't fun. If I wanted to DPS I'd do it on the class I levelled for that purpose.

I swear the LFG system looks at your gear and says "Hrm?6,000 DPS mage? Let's put that with the fresh-80 tank so that things die so fast the tank doesn't take any damage". If you queue as a healer or Tank it'll say "Hrm, Tier 10 geared healer? Let's team that up with the TOGC25 geared tank and the 3 fresh-80 DPS so that they can just bore the mobs to death by outlasting them".

Bad players are around and it sucks to get stuck with them. It sucks even more to get stuck with 'good' players that just don't have gear that's appropriate to the group. There's no better way to bore a healer, or make a tank feel useless than by pairing them with 4 other people that they just can't work with.

lol, I'm all up in T9 and had to sit and autoattack yesterday for the tank we had (along with Chains of Ice and deathgrip to pull mobs off healer). Hunter switched to using Viper the whole time. :laugh:

Hey I admit, I'm a bad tank..

I leveled up my DK to 80 without doing an instance.. and I didn't do that many heroics or instances as a druid before I took a break etc..

I started off with 3 other guildies , in nexus non-heroic, and we had to find a random a random healer..

I really showed my nubness.. ah well..

but to explain a bit further I couldn't really group up until now due to time constraints.. I really didn't want to get in a group or instance and have to leave at a moment's notice, recently I had more time to group but lack of experience shine's through ..

I am working on a warrior though, and rogue mostly I am having fun rp'ing and just doing random stuff

My subscription ran out! :(

Waiting for my paycheck and income tax refund to come in...

Itching to play sooo bad. Sold a bunch of those Lovely Charm Bracelets for over 1k... NEED MOAR!!@ :pinch:

What the actual **** people are still buying them?

I have more than I know what to do with.

What the actual **** people are still buying them?

I have more than I know what to do with.

As far as I'm aware, yeah. The price dropped to around 14-15g each on my server, but if you know where to farm them, ohhhh boy. Good money.

Since you guys don't play on my realm, I'll fill ya in: If you have a character around 68-74ish, go to Borean Tundra and head to Temple City of En'Kilah (top-right corner of the zone). There are skeletons that spawn with roughly 500hp every few seconds, enough to keep you from ever having to sit and wait for respawn. You cannot do this at 80 since the mobs would be gray to you, but it's certainly awesome if you have a character in that range.

I sat there with my mage killing them all in one shot of Arcane Explosion (instant AoE) as I ran through them again and again. As a paladin, just drop your consecrate and divine storms, judging in between to keep your mana up. It's not as fast as a mage, but you'll still get plenty. :)

I skipped the achievements for valentine's event but now attempting to get the "Elder" Title for my DK.. .. heh I roleplay an old orc, then I'm think I'm going to mostly retire him, except for dailies and switch to my rogue or warrior. Death knights seems too... umm out of place honestly..

I kinda want to do a tanking , dps and then healing class to 80 before cataclysm, not worried about gear to much really..

I skipped the achievements for valentine's event but now attempting to get the "Elder" Title for my DK.. .. heh I roleplay an old orc, then I'm think I'm going to mostly retire him, except for dailies and switch to my rogue or warrior. Death knights seems too... umm out of place honestly..

I kinda want to do a tanking , dps and then healing class to 80 before cataclysm, not worried about gear to much really..

Paladin / Druid. Reroll once, have loads of fun. :)

I have a Pally Healing Question.....

I switched my main from DPS to Holy Spec which for the most part I do like; however, when healing wither either PUG groups or ones that are with my guild, my healing is subpar at best compared to other healers. My gear is pretty decent actually and just think that I should be doing a lot better then what I am, just not sure what I am doing wrong?

I usually spam FoS and use Holy Light when needed for big heals. I use beacon on either the MT or OT(which ever I am assigned to)

My Gear score I think right now is 5176 (actually that is going to go up, have some Emblems of Frost I can use and also just got a belt from ICC but just have not put on since since I am broke and cannot afford to get GEMS/Enchants until I cam farm) , my user name is S??r?m??t and I am on Eonar if you would want to look at my gear and see if I am Gem'd/Enchanted correctly. Thanks in advance.

I have a Pally Healing Question.....

I switched my main from DPS to Holy Spec which for the most part I do like; however, when healing wither either PUG groups or ones that are with my guild, my healing is subpar at best compared to other healers. My gear is pretty decent actually and just think that I should be doing a lot better then what I am, just not sure what I am doing wrong?

I usually spam FoS and use Holy Light when needed for big heals. I use beacon on either the MT or OT(which ever I am assigned to)

My Gear score I think right now is 5176 (actually that is going to go up, have some Emblems of Frost I can use and also just got a belt from ICC but just have not put on since since I am broke and cannot afford to get GEMS/Enchants until I cam farm) , my user name is Såçrámëñt and I am on Eonar if you would want to look at my gear and see if I am Gem'd/Enchanted correctly. Thanks in advance.

http://www.theholypaladin.com/frontpage.php

http://elitistjerks.com/f76/t84922-holy_paladin_compendium_3_3_a/

And most importantly, you should figure it out on your own by trying new things etc.

did a druid .. its retired.. though I might try to level another one maybe (don't ask why I am rerolling one, mine had a incident )

tried paladin but it was kinda boring to level up

I have a warrior in the 40's and leveling a rogue now.. I have a priest on another server which I can transfer over sometime to my current one..

My DK can also serve as a tank or dps I guess

I kinda want to do a tanking , dps and then healing class to 80 before cataclysm, not worried about gear to much really..

I have a hunter at 80. My advice, roll a pure DPS class and not a hybrid, only to avoid the the tax, that is.

I am leveling a Druid, he's parked at 60 right now as I haven't played since the end of January. I leveled 30-50 as Resto with the LFD tool, then from 50-60 I leveled Feral tank.

I enjoy both and will decided at 80 which I want to main spec/offspec.

Based on my decision of what my Druid will primarily be, I'm going to level either a strictly healing class, or strictly tanking. Of course I'll dual spec them to 80 just so that by 80 I'm not completely burnt out with the classes intended purpose.

Not saying that any of you suffer from this ailment, but I didn't notice over the past few days of tanking at level 70 that I find a lot of people get aggro from attacking a mob the tank is not concentrating on. The result is that the tank only has minimal aggro on tertiary mobs and thus any damage done to them will pull aggro. As a warrior I am learning a lot about aggro and what I notice is that although he has very good aoe control, the paladin is much better at handling large groups of mobs. I'm going to work more on my paladin tank over the next few days, he is at 65 right now. I have to say that the warrior feels like the funnest of the three tanks I have; DK, Warrior, and Pally.

Not saying that any of you suffer from this ailment, but I didn't notice over the past few days of tanking at level 70 that I find a lot of people get aggro from attacking a mob the tank is not concentrating on. The result is that the tank only has minimal aggro on tertiary mobs and thus any damage done to them will pull aggro. As a warrior I am learning a lot about aggro and what I notice is that although he has very good aoe control, the paladin is much better at handling large groups of mobs. I'm going to work more on my paladin tank over the next few days, he is at 65 right now. I have to say that the warrior feels like the funnest of the three tanks I have; DK, Warrior, and Pally.

Warrior can handle just as much mobs as a pally. It's just we can't press one button and viola be "pro" at it. AoE tanking as a warrior still has us going back to the old days of AoE tanking. Tabbing between targets, and only keeping the mob targetted long enough for one/two Dev or a Shield Slam, while keeping Thunderclap on CD. You don't have to tab much now and days (usually only once through and your good to hold 'em) but we still need to.

AoE pulls for me, normally go like this:

Pull 'em all and Shockwave. It's great for some burst threat and a stun (that stun is awesome since most DPS will open up right away). Followed by a Thunderclap. Then just tab target Dev/Shield Slam around, while Thunderclapping. You shouldn't use shockwave again. It has a 20 sec CD and if you have to use it twice on one pull, then your AoE is fail. What I mean by that is the mobs should be dead or less than 10%, so saving your shockwave for the next pull is ideal.

It'll come with time as you tank more and more.

My brother hit 80 on his shadow priest. He came over with some take-out and I called a couple of friends (two live on my block,

one on the opposite side of the golf course). Half an hour later we were able to run 5-man dungeons while working our way through

my liquor cabinet.

Contrary to what we expected: runs were about half as fast. We kept getting distracted by the dogs, booze, olympics, etc. Latency was

pretty crappy, and playing on laptops is less than ideal. Reminded me a lot of 'wii days' where you're stuck inside at a cabin with friends

because it's raining (or not snowing).

If it ever happens again: it's not going to be at here. My house is a mess and I hate waiting in line to use my own bathroom.

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