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ok so where do i go to use justice points? i have quiet a few

Don't bother: unless you have 4,000 justice points they're going to be more useful to you next week when you're 85 than this week.

A list of things you can buy and vendors that sell them.

You'll probably want to filter to things usable in your class/roll.

Remember anything you buy today is going is replaced in 72 hours. Stuff you buy at 85 will probably last a couple of months.

a quick question about hairlooms,

since theres new expansion comming so i desided to lvl a drood (feral) and a hunter, so i get them heirlooms: chest, shoulder, weapon, trinket.

are there more?

ps im at work atm so cant check ;)

Don't bother: unless you have 4,000 justice points they're going to be more useful to you next week when you're 85 than this week.

A list of things you can buy and vendors that sell them.

You'll probably want to filter to things usable in your class/roll.

Remember anything you buy today is going is replaced in 72 hours. Stuff you buy at 85 will probably last a couple of months.

this.

right now i'm farming heroics mainly for gold and nothing else. nobody seems to mind if you do crap dps in randoms right now for the most part, and if they do they'll just drop party.

looking around at guild application templates an copy pasting them to my test forum for review. not planning on outright stealing(lol as if they aren't mostly basically the same anyway so far), but to get a good idea where to start writing my own. most of them are written for pve guilds, but i think i can adapt them to my general focus guild.

if anyone has some favourite app template they want to share with me please PM me with a link or copya pasta so i can get some ideas for good questions to ask.

my app will be optional, along with forum activity, but imho it's a good place for recruits to start.

Don't bother: unless you have 4,000 justice points they're going to be more useful to you next week when you're 85 than this week.

A list of things you can buy and vendors that sell them.

You'll probably want to filter to things usable in your class/roll.

Remember anything you buy today is going is replaced in 72 hours. Stuff you buy at 85 will probably last a couple of months.

ah ok i'll just farm gold and level secondary professions while i'm waiting for cata.

@evn, talking about this, do you have an idea about Cataclysm's 85 HC dungeons average ilvl drops ? Is the first tier set available for JPs as soon as we get to 85 ? Is it significantly better than HC drops ?

if you have any idea about pvp gear from vendors for honour i'd like to know too.

The first tier of raid gear is on par with the valor points vendor gear. iLevel 359 epics.

The first tier of justice points gear is on par with heroic drops. ilevel 346 blues.

Normal mode level 85 dugeons (which are available at 83) drop ilevel 333 blues.

iLevel 320-ish blues are substantially better than heroic ICC25 gear so everything is an upgrade over what you have now. The difference in power between 333 and 346 is noticeable but not the end of the world ( about the same as 232 vs 245 Tier 9). Tier 11 raid gear is a healty step up from that.

The only way to get valor points is to raid. You can get a couple per day from daily heroics but that's all. If you don't raid your acquisition of epics is going to be limited to about one or two per month and you're going to have blues in about half of your slots. It's a lot like TBC.

I didn't look at PVP gear but it's supposed to follow a similar path:

you can get "welfare blues" that have no requirements for honor points that you farm in unrated battlegrounds and world pvp.

If you want the "the good stuff" then you're going to have to arena or do rated battlegrounds and farm an appropriate rating and then you can buy it with honor.

The stamina and resilience changes mean that level 80 gear has no value when compared to random quest greens.

The one exception that I remember (and it may have been removed, I haven't played beta in a long time) was that PVP weapons didn't require rating. I remember being annoyed that we were going back to the TBC style of "lose 10 games to get your S1 weapon so you can farm Tier 4/5 more easily".

looking around at guild application templates an copy pasting them to my test forum for review. not planning on outright stealing(lol as if they aren't mostly basically the same anyway so far), but to get a good idea where to start writing my own. most of them are written for pve guilds, but i think i can adapt them to my general focus guild.

if anyone has some favourite app template they want to share with me please PM me with a link or copya pasta so i can get some ideas for good questions to ask.

my app will be optional, along with forum activity, but imho it's a good place for recruits to start.

PHP/MySQL backend with an HTML interface.

PHP/MySQL backend with an HTML interface.

well i was thinking more along the line of a regular forum post type deal.

i set up some test forums on my offtopic forum to add feel out the guild stuff. probably going to make a separate forum for it though.

if anyone is interest you can pm for the link to the forum with wow guild test stuff on it.

i wrote my own app today already and some early thoughts on structure. going to go over it with my bro this weekend and possibly move forward soon.

If you're going to be a casual guild: do you really need the infrastructure that competitive ones require?

Getting into my priest's guild as a raider takes about a month. 80% of that is evaluating if you're a jerk

or not. We can fix any gear problem, we can teach anybody that isn't retarded how to play well. We

can't fix jerks or lazyness.

The reason our application post is so long is not because we care if you can calculate exactly how

much DPS an Agi/Crit vs Agi/haste gem will do on a specific encounter; it's so that we can see if you're

willing to do some research, to see how you respond to criticism, and to get a feeling for your overall

level of intelligence and maturity. If I'm going to be raiding with someone 8 hours a week then I want

them to be somewhat similar to me.

You're not trying to keep out people, and they're certainly not competing for one of 25 spots in a group.

It doesn't make sense to really try and keep people out unless you're trying to be top 5%. You said you

don't plan to do high end raids or arena so there's no reason to filter on anything but "is this guy fun to

be around?"

If you want to get in as a "friend (which gets you into our alt runs, lets you hang out in guild chat, and

generally just be cool) then all we require is that you have a raider say "This guy's alright, invite him."

If I have a friend invited then my reputation is tied to theres: if my friend is an idiot trolling trade or

causing drama and I can't get them to knock-it-off then they're out. Friends and family are welcome

but don't rock the boat. The lower barrier to entry reflects the fact that I'm not required to play with

non-raiders so they don't really have an impact on how spare time is spent.

good points as always evn. we're not looking for an exahsutaive process to invite members though. we figure if we can get 5-10 core member who are cool we've done well.

i recruited 3 members tonight, and one was within our reasonable criteria. a 66 rogue. if we can get just 4 more like him who are willing to chat in /g chat we are half way there.

most of tonight was working out how to make mumble work. it's not as user friendly on the back end as vent it seems, but once you get the idea it starts working well. we now have a reasonable amount of channels including officer channels and necessary permissions.

the next few weeks will be the biggest challenge/ between the level grind adn recruiting we have our work cut out for us. it will take a large amount of spam to get our targetted 5-10 core member i think, and alot of showing what we have to offer in the world.

yeh we coudl've very easily stayed with our leveling guild or join a social guild, and we aren't much different from either, but we are too used to running things our way, and being able to deal with QQ in easy terms.

hopefullyit works out for us. i am trying to be optimistic here, but at the saem time i realize my server is saturated with guilds. hopefully our offers something the other don't that players want. we have a few irl people to recruit and a few old mmo friends to recruit.

at worst we wasted our time and are back down toa two man guild doing randoms an ga queues for BGs, at best we have something excellent with a crew to do world pvp events with and hang out with in voip.

the final guild forums are at http://omgklingons.guildlaunch.com/forums/index.php?gid=185419 if anyone is interested in seeing our guild app and so on, or even signing up.

we will be focused on hitting 85 first, but after that mixing up our progression act ivies with helping others. if you do want to reroll we can hand out RAFs, and chances are help you level at some point. just letting people know that option is there.

Getting into my priest's guild as a raider takes about a month. 80% of that is evaluating if you're a jerk

or not. We can fix any gear problem, we can teach anybody that isn't retarded how to play well. We

can't fix jerks or lazyness.

[snip]

I WANT TO BE IN THIS GUILD.

Pity I'm in the EU. :-(

does anyone know how to get the mumble overlay to work with wow?

nvm, it seems to be working today for some reason.

going to test again with dx11 but the mumble wiki says it only supports dx9/10 games with the overlay.

EDIT 2: and i got it to work in dx11 mode.

hmm i don't know why it wouldn't work last night no matter what i did. maybe hte reboot helped, as i was already running wow the firt time i started mumble last night, even though i restarted both multiple times.

um i think it's like 16 per heroic run from the dungeon finder, then like 12 or 16 per boss right? umm just guessing out of the blue here but like 3 or 4 bosses per dungeon?

so 64JP from bosses per run plus the dungeon finder bonus so 80 JP per heroic. unless it's 12 JP per run/boss in which case 60Jp per run.

Squeee!

Today, I got an SMS from my local Gamestop (Sweden) telling me that I could pick my copy of Cataclysm up.

"Surely, this must be a mistake!" I thought. Phoned them up, and they said that it was true and I could come pick it up. Apparently some supermarket had started selling them so they would too. I know I won't be able to use the code until Tuesday, but it's nice to have it in time and not have to brave a midnight release.

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Cataclysm Collector's Edition by iKenndac, on Flickr

The Collector's Edition comes with:

- The game. Duh.

- Manual.

- 2x WoW Guest Passes. 2x Starcraft Guest Passes.

- Some TCG cards.

- A really awesome artwork book.

- A mouse mat with Deathwing's face on it.

- A soundtrack CD.

- A behind the scenes "making of" DVD.

My fianc?e picked up her regular edition at the same time, boxed. It comes with:

- The game.

- A manual.

- 2x WoW Guest Passes. 1x Starcraft Guest Pass.

I activated my account with Cataclysm just now, and when I signed in the Lil' Deathwing pet was in my mailbox. When I picked it up I got a Feat of Strength, which my guildies saw. Most were "Cool, grats!" but one was all "Dude you're gonna get banned because you broke the ToS blah blah blah". It was really funny! :D I eventually said that I could learn Old World Flying just to troll him, and it worked :p

Anyway, my account behaves just like a digital purchase account now - it says that the Launcher will be downloading extra data, and I'll be able to play as soon as the servers go live. :cool:

Ha! Just got a second SMS from Gamestop:

"K?ra kund! V?nligast bortse ifr?n tidigare besked om att Cataclysm ?r sl?ppt. Det har intr?ffat ett fel och vi ber verkligen om urs?kt f?r detta! Vi ses 7 Dec."

Translation:

"Dear customer! Kindly ignore the previous message that Cataclysm is released. There have been a mistake and we sincerely apologize for this! See you December 7"

Too late! :p

cool

i wonder why i didn't get a lil deathwing pet :( maybe when cata goes live i will get one. alot of people have been qqing they didn't get one for wow's 6th anniversary.

Lil' Deathwing is the Cataclysm Collector's Edition pet. The 6th anniversary doesn't have a special pet.

The Collector's Edition comes with:

- The game. Duh.

- Manual.

- 2x WoW Guest Passes. 2x Starcraft Guest Passes.

- Some TCG cards.

- A really awesome artwork book.

- A mouse mat with Deathwing's face on it.

- A soundtrack CD.

- A behind the scenes "making of" DVD.

You also get a collectors edition Minipet:

wow_cataclysm_collectors_edition_contents.jpg

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