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is there anyway i can download the latest patches without using that stupid client???

i've had about 6-7 download attempts and been unsuccessful with the latest patch.. most of the time it's just stopped dead... other times its just decided to go extremely slow, one time i clicked to play while i was downloading, it stopped and restarted from the start when i finished playing.

it looks as if its a torrent from viewing the log.

surely there is other ways to download the patches???

Also, i've been playing the game a couple of weeks now and i'm coming along nicely... are there any reccomended mods or addons or even essential addons that i should have?

At what point should i install the burning crusade addon, when i reach level 60? i bought it when i bought the original but decided not to install it until i need to?

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http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors

Patch Mirrors for you :p

Also, Install Burning Crusade right away.. If gives you access to Bloodelf/Dranai characters and there starter zones (which are fun quests). You can also then ask a nice mage to portal you to shattrath and set your hearthstone at one of the inn's there.. so from your hearthstone you can go to any major city in the game (saves alot of travel time).

Apart from that, you only need Burning Crusade installed when you want to go to outland (at level 58+).

There's afew addons.. but none are really needed:

1. BaudBag (Basically turns all your bags into one bag.. so you dont need to rumage through each one to find one item).

2. QuestHelper (Highly Recommend you dont install this addon, it basically tells you where to go for every quest and turns the game into purely a grindfest.. First time in the game, dont use this addon)

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thanks for the help :)

what does grind mean?? noticed it heard alot

last question... i grouped with someone last night to complete a quest, i was then asked by them if i would like to earn 4 gold... basically asked me to collect 50 stringy wolf meat and then mail it to them as cash on delivery.... i accepted and started slaying wolves... as soon as i reached 10 stringy wolf meat it said my inventory was full.... how can i collect more? i dont know how serious this person was being i'm still new to warcraft..lol

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thanks for the help :)

what does grind mean?? noticed it heard alot

last question... i grouped with someone last night to complete a quest, i was then asked by them if i would like to earn 4 gold... basically asked me to collect 50 stringy wolf meat and then mail it to them as cash on delivery.... i accepted and started slaying wolves... as soon as i reached 10 stringy wolf meat it said my inventory was full.... how can i collect more? i dont know how serious this person was being i'm still new to warcraft..lol

Grind is basically doing something repeatadly which isnt fun.. (usually in order to get something which is fun). I.E. Killing 50 of the same mobs for one drop etc.

Your inventory is your bag space, you need bigger bags. If your a tailor you can make them, or you can buy them on the AH.

Also, in every major town is a Bank.. where you can put 'extra bags' for additional storage :p

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Just a tip: If you're applying to a guild, especially one well beyond your current level of progression please

take time to fill out their application. Behold this gem from our recruitment forums (names removed to

protect the innocent). You'd also do well not to make yourself look like an complete goon.

notes in brackets are my comments.

  • Reason(s) for leaving said guilds:
    <kara guild without za kills> did fall 8 month ago and stop rading/ gm insult me n <gruul/mag pug guild>
    and i lost my mind cuz he sty insulting me every time i raid n 3 weeks so i lost it and i fight with him and
    he kick me . i lost 1k dkp
    Reason(s) for wanting to join Betrayal:
    cuz u guys clear it all and am geard for bt/swp 4k ap fury war
    (4000 AP is impressive: twice what our 8/8 T6 warriors have!)
    What do you expect from Betrayal?:
    nothing
    What do you think Betrayal expects from you?:
    i wish good luck on that
    How do you think you would benefit the guild?:
    me am the best
    How do you think you compare against others in your class?:
    idk
    What is your current talent spec? (Format: "xx <tree>/xx <tree>/xx <tree>"):
    fury war* (his armory spec is 20/20/21)
    When can/do you play? Can you attend most of our raids? (Please give us some insight as to when we can expect you to be on and what kind of schedule you have):
    I can attend the raids because i'm online most of the time. I don't have any work or school schedual or life =P
    Is English your first language?:
    no but am fine dearr
    Provide a link to a screenshot of your UI, in combat in a raid setting (skip this and we will skip your app):
    i well send soon let me lern how 2 do this .. jeeezzz

I think he was just yanking your chains with that recruitment post :p

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About the Wrath of the Lich King: is it necessary to pre-order? I would think you could just go online, purchase a key, and download the new client. Amirite? :p

thanks for the help :)

what does grind mean?? noticed it heard alot

last question... i grouped with someone last night to complete a quest, i was then asked by them if i would like to earn 4 gold... basically asked me to collect 50 stringy wolf meat and then mail it to them as cash on delivery.... i accepted and started slaying wolves... as soon as i reached 10 stringy wolf meat it said my inventory was full.... how can i collect more? i dont know how serious this person was being i'm still new to warcraft..lol

FYI if you didn't know: Many times in early stages of the game, additional bags drop. You can drag these bags from your backpack to the bag bar (ie. the empty slots next to your backpack). You can have up to 4 additional bags.

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The upside to a rogue is that in this new patch coming out.. 3.0 there going to be so overpowered (well I think they will be)

Im sure you have seen these already but I mean come on there just that good...

Rogue

* Rogues will now deal an additional 50% damage to stunned targets.

* Rogues will no longer have Sprint, Vanish or Crippling Poison abilities.

* Players will now be able to target Rogues and select a Pick Lockbox option to have the Rogue automatically open all lockboxes in their inventory.

* The reagent cost on Blind has been changed. Blind will now require Blinding Powder, Fel Lotus, 20 gold and a Splinter of Atiesh to use.

* The tooltip for Hemorrhage has been updated to inform the player that it is terrible for raiding.

Notes from http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/75473049.htm

Im still thinking if I wont to keep the rogue warlock does sound tempting but another caster :s

Oh what to play, anyone got any pointers or tips they would like to add feel free to :)

You do know that those patch notes are a joke right?!?!?

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About the Wrath of the Lich King: is it necessary to pre-order? I would think you could just go online, purchase a key, and download the new client. Amirite? :p

Blizzard will probably do the same thing they did last time. They released a direct download version of TBC. Easier than pre-ordering and (maybe) wait in line to get a copy.

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Blizzard will probably do the same thing they did last time. They released a direct download version of TBC. Easier than pre-ordering and (maybe) wait in line to get a copy.

Heh I wasn't playing WoW when TBC came out. :p Will/did they give preference somehow to people who pre-ordered? Like, do they not release keys to downloaders until after a week or something? I'm just trying to figure out why people are paying to pre-order if they can just download it.

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Well alot of people myself included prefer to have things on disc for one, secondly the blizzard downloader is a pain in the ass and thirdly pre-orders are normally there a few days before thus you can be on at midnight no questions asked, well unless the servers crash all the time like with tbc.

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You do know that those patch notes are a joke right?!?!?

Sad thing is, I can see that being legit eventually. The game pretty much plays itself anymore. Hell, I could instance on a hunter and eat dinner at the same time... :laugh:

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Well alot of people myself included prefer to have things on disc for one, secondly the blizzard downloader is a pain in the ass and thirdly pre-orders are normally there a few days before thus you can be on at midnight no questions asked, well unless the servers crash all the time like with tbc.

Heh Sorry I'm still not seeing a reason to paying to pre-order. I'll give you that some people like physical media, but I'm not one like that. I also haven't had problems with the downloader before. :/ And even then, you can quickly download a client from a mirror.

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Burning Crusade wasn't available immediately for download and buy a key at launch, it was only a couple weeks after that that option became available.

As to how it will work with Lich King, I would suggest to expect the same. If millions of players were to all choose that option at launch, they would land up with a surplus of the phsyical copied and they would also have problems having their servers meeting the load of that many people trying to download that much file size! It's possible they will, but I wouldn't count on it.

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Burning Crusade wasn't available immediately for download and buy a key at launch, it was only a couple weeks after that that option became available.

As to how it will work with Lich King, I would suggest to expect the same. If millions of players were to all choose that option at launch, they would land up with a surplus of the phsyical copied and they would also have problems having their servers meeting the load of that many people trying to download that much file size! It's possible they will, but I wouldn't count on it.

Makes sense to me, I will pre-order! Thanks!

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I think he was just yanking your chains with that recruitment post :p

He followed up with one of our mages: turns out he lives in Kuwait, and he's 12.

Sad thing is, I can see that being legit eventually. The game pretty much plays itself anymore.

If only that were true.

Old content is auto-play easy mode (ie: magtheridon). BT/Hyjal were never particularly difficult.

Mag/Gruul/SSC/TK before the nerfs were appropriately difficult and did require people to pay attention (and throw gold at auctioneers).

Sunwell will likely remain challenging until 3.0 at which point the first 4 bosses become a huge joke (though paying attention on twins/felmyst is still a requirement) and muru will be substantially easier.

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As many of you know we will be featuring a new Battleground, a dedicated world PvP zone and all new PvP items in Wrath of the Lich King. In order to make the transition from The Burning Crusade to Wrath of the Lich King flow as smoothly as possible, all accrued honor points will be reset at the launch of the expansion. We do this to ensure select players do not have an unfair advantage at level 80 from stockpiling honor to instantly purchase the newest Wrath of the Lich King PvP rewards. For those with unspent honor points prior to the release of the expansion, we will be offering a few upgrades and special rewards in next content patch solely for purchase via the honor system.

source

Spend it if you got it.

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The PTR patch notes are always available on blizzards PTR patch notes website, and you can always read the current beta patch notes. Keep in mind that patch notes aren't always up to date and may reflect changes that have been reversed, or indicate changes that are not functioning or haven't been implemented yet.

Still, that gives you a pretty good idea of where things are heading in patch 3.0 and beyond.

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Rogue

* Rogues will now deal an additional 50% damage to stunned targets.

* Rogues will no longer have Sprint, Vanish or Crippling Poison abilities.

* Players will now be able to target Rogues and select a Pick Lockbox option to have the Rogue automatically open all lockboxes in their inventory.

* The reagent cost on Blind has been changed. Blind will now require Blinding Powder, Fel Lotus, 20 gold and a Splinter of Atiesh to use.

* The tooltip for Hemorrhage has been updated to inform the player that it is terrible for raiding.

Notes from http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/75473049.htm

hahahahaha

Splinter of Atiesh!

LF39M naxx so i can make blind powder

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Is anyone else tired of people saying **** like:

"Oh yeah, <insert class> will be so OP'd after 3.0."

Or:

"<insert class> is going to be the best."

I'm tired of everyone thinking they know everything about the expansion.

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Anyone have any idea on which class is going to be the "best" healing class?

I'm leveling an UD Priest right now, but have a Troll Shaman on hold.

I heard Resto Druids are getting a couple of very nice healing skills as well.

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