[Definitive] Xbox 360 Thread

[Acezo]

I know the controllers will be, but is the entire unit going to be Wireless as well?

Meaning will it be on my network through my wiress router out of the box or are you still going to have to be a wireless adapter?

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You'll still have to buy a wireless adapter. You can either use the one from Microsoft designed for the 360, or your own USB or Ethernet adapter.

Xbox 360 Wireless Network Adapter

Designed for versatility and ease, the Xbox 360 Wireless Network Adapter enhances your Xbox 360 experience in the digital home, seamlessly synchronizing with the Xbox 360 system. You can easily transfer videos and music to your Xbox 360 system from your Media Center PC, chat with your friends, play games via Xbox Live, and more?all without the clutter of wires.

    * The Xbox 360 Wireless Network Adapter is highly versatile and supports 802.11b, 802.11g, and 802.11a.

    * The Xbox 360 Wireless Network Adapter is powered seamlessly by your Xbox 360 gaming console, so there's no external power adapter to plug in.

    * You can transfer high-definition video and CD-quality music from your Media Center PC to your Xbox 360 via 802.11a wireless media support.

[Andrew Lyle Global Moderator]

found some images of the controler :)

[b mitchell]

Those imagaes are just from xbox360.com you can look at them (plus many more) on your own.

[filter04]

yeah word up kiddies, microsoft has had xbox360.com up for quite a while now, now all these other sites are simply mirroring the same images. go straight to the source and you can, in the words of a man with a green keyboard with his name on it, "goose it, tweak it, spin it"

heck, you can even get a background of a green monster playing games.

www.xbox360.com

[Ayepecks]

You do realize that you just did the same? you went out crying out loud by defending the poor and the weak and giving no argument whatsoever... :p

anyways, it's a common knowledge among the gaming community that the success of the PS2 was based on the big amount of PS1 users migrating over the new platform and taking advantage of the huge library of PS1 games. games like Fantavison as a launch tittle for the PS2? give me a brake! what about games like Halo, PGR or DOA3 as a launch tittles?

Sony was the first company to offer backwards compatibility for its console and it prove to be a recipe for success by giving the users the chance to play their old games on their new platform while giving the developers the chance to learn and create games for the next generation.

on the other hand you can see what has happen to Nintendo and Sega, they never offered backwards compatibility on their previous platforms and users where forced to either throw away their old games or keep both consoles and have to option to play their favorite games. now Nintendo said that for the first time they are going to offer backwards compatibility on revolution. thats a really smart move on Nintendos part because it warrant them to keep a big part of their actual user base.

if this is the trend that has prove to be successful why should Microsoft pass on it? just because Mr. Thurrott "I hate Xbox and MSN" says so?... I don't think so. Microsoft commitment to the user includes hearing what their customers have to say and they'd said they want to have backwards compatibility on the new Xbox and thats what is going to happen unless Microsoft wants to start all over again; conquering the market, competing with the actual Xbox and the offerings from the other competitors.

"Just a thought."  :whistle:

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I did no such thing, you merely assumed so. Tell me how I went defending him... nice try to prove me as a hypocrite, but I was not being hypocritical about that, since I merely stated you gave nothing to back your stance.

[Spartan_X]

I did no such thing, you merely assumed so. Tell me how I went defending him... nice try to prove me as a hypocrite, but I was not being hypocritical about that, since I merely stated you gave nothing to back your stance.

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[KeR]

in order:

Gears of War

Call of Duty 2

Ghost Recon 3

[KeR]

Kameo

PGR, Project Gotham Racing 3

Quake 4

[KeR]

The Godfather

Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2006

XBOX Live

[beekay_]

That's hot. :D

[CraigMack]

Don Corleone never looked better.

[Dark_INk]

http://www.hellogamer.com/2005/04/27/xbox-...rds-compatible/

Seems there is. :)

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interesting, thx for the link Glitch

edit:

Damn! thx for the screens KeR :D

[Lock]

ta for the heads up :D

[estranged]

Can't wait til PGR3.. also looking forward to some fable 2 screens, hopefully theyll be around soon though

[DirtyLarry Veteran]

You'll still have to buy a wireless adapter. You can either use the one from Microsoft designed for the 360, or your own USB or Ethernet adapter.

Xbox 360 Wireless Network Adapter

Designed for versatility and ease, the Xbox 360 Wireless Network Adapter enhances your Xbox 360 experience in the digital home, seamlessly synchronizing with the Xbox 360 system. You can easily transfer videos and music to your Xbox 360 system from your Media Center PC, chat with your friends, play games via Xbox Live, and more?all without the clutter of wires.

? ? * The Xbox 360 Wireless Network Adapter is highly versatile and supports 802.11b, 802.11g, and 802.11a.

? ? * The Xbox 360 Wireless Network Adapter is powered seamlessly by your Xbox 360 gaming console, so there's no external power adapter to plug in.

? ? * You can transfer high-definition video and CD-quality music from your Media Center PC to your Xbox 360 via 802.11a wireless media support.

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Thanks for th(Y)nfo. (Y)

Not what I wanted to find out, but now I at least know it is going to cost me even more money than expected to get this X-Box 360.

Right now the way my apartment is, I have no more hard ethernet lines left, and even if I did running yet another one into my living room would just cause an eyesore I know my GF is not willing to live with. Knowing the Wireless Adapter for X-Box 1 costs 100$ or more new depending on where you went (I also know there are similar offerings, but I have read about compatibility nightmares), so my grand total for my X Box 360 if I want one on launch is already $500, that is minus any games, and that is assuming I indeed have to get the 400$ bundle:pinch: :pinch:

[magik]

I don't understand:

Optimized for Online:

Wi-Fi ready: 802.11a, 802.11b, and 802.11g

If Wi-Fi is built into the console, why then are they selling a Wireless adapter? :blink:

[Guest Smithee]

I don't understand:

Optimized for Online:

Wi-Fi ready: 802.11a, 802.11b, and 802.11g

If Wi-Fi is built into the console, why then are they selling a Wireless adapter? :blink:

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like although the controllers will be wireless out of the box, the unit will not connect to a Wireless LAN without an adaptor. it does have a wired ethernet port for people who do it old skool.

The only other explanation is that when they say "adaptor" they mean a wireless router or some other way to enable your home network to be wireless on the other end of the link, but I don't think that's what they mean.

BTW That Godfather screenshot really does look great :woot: .

[Liquid]

Ahh those screenies rock!

[magik]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like although the controllers will be wireless out of the box, the unit will not connect to a Wireless LAN without an adaptor. it does have a wired ethernet port for people who do it old skool.

The only other explanation is that when they say "adaptor" they mean a wireless router or some other way to enable your home network to be wireless on the other end of the link, but I don't think that's what they mean.

BTW That Godfather screenshot really does look great :woot: .

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Ah, you know what it might be... First, are you sure that's an Ethernet port on the back of that Xbox360? If it's not, then the Wireless Adapter might be for people who do not have a Wireless Router. The adapter will connect from the router with a wire and provide wireless access to the Xbox360. Seems sort of redundant, so maybe that really is an ethernet port on the back of the Xbox360, and if it is, then I'm just really confused...

Oh nevermind, right above the spec about Wi-Fi support is a Built-In Ethernet port. But still, this wireless adapter could be for people who dont' have a Wireless router and would rather use the Xbox360 wirelessly. I'm pretty sure that's it, otherwise built in Wi-Fi support wouldn't make any sense.

Edited May 16, 2005 by magik

[Guest Smithee]

Ah, you know what it might be... First, are you sure that's an Ethernet port on the back of that Xbox360?

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Yeah, I just checked the official specification (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox360/factsheet.htm) and it states:

Optimized for Online 

    * Instant, out-of-the-box access to Xbox Live features with broadband service, including Xbox Live Marketplace for downloadable content, gamer profile for digital identity, and voice chat to talk to friends while playing games, watching movies, or listening to music

    * Built-in Ethernet port

    * Wi-Fi ready: 802.11a, 802.11b, and 802.11g

    * Video camera ready

This does seem to suggest that wireless fuctionality is only available with the adaptor:

Xbox 360 Wireless Network Adapter

    * You can transfer high-definition video and CD-quality music from your Media Center PC to your Xbox 360 via 802.11a wireless media support.

If wifi was built in, you wouldn't need the adaptor to transfer media from a media center PC.

My best guess, is that the terminology is fooling us. It states "Wifi Ready" which in marketing speak means Wifi at an extra cost and the adaptor is indeed needed to enable Wireless LAN support. Just like it says "Video Camera Ready", but the video camera is an added accessory at extra cost. Just to reiterate, the controllers are wireless out of the box and need no adaptor.

[magik]

Yes, I noted about the Built in Ethernet port on my post when I edited it because I didn't see it at first.

I see what you mean by the marketing terminology of WiFi Ready, but then again, why would they mention the different forms of Wi-Fi (802.11a, g, b) when that is completely up to the adapter?

[jokeripa]

:woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot:

[Guest Smithee]

why would they mention the different forms of Wi-Fi (802.11a, g, b) when that is completely up to the adapter?

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I would imagine they're simply outlining all the standards their adaptor is compatible with.

On a different note, the E3 Xbox Press Briefing is oging to be streamed live over the internet.

The stream will be available here:

http://www.xbox.com/media/games/e32005/vid...cast-001-Hi.asx

and goes out at 3:30 AM GMT ( :woot: ) tomorrow morning! More at xbox.com

[BajiRav]

I would imagine they're simply outlining all the standards their adaptor is compatible with.

On a different note, the E3 Xbox Press Briefing is oging to be streamed live over the internet.

The stream will be available here:

http://www.xbox.com/media/games/e32005/vid...cast-001-Hi.asx

and goes out at 3:30 AM GMT ( :woot: ) tomorrow morning! More at xbox.com

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why it hasn't started yet ? :(

[~clean]

why it hasn't started yet ?  :(

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Its not time yet :)

Starts at 3:30am GMT so in 3 hours it will be on.